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Future GOATS

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Yuh_aye

Everyone knows the GOAT debate : Aspas Tenz Chronicle Less Yay (HM to Sacy, the most decorated)

This thread is not about that. It's about who has the best chance of being in the goat discussion in the future, disregarding those players listed above who are already in it.

Its not ordered outside of the general sections, AND ITS OPINION

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Top Contenders (Most likely)
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Zekken - He already MVP'd a trophy winning run, and had an insane resume long before that. He is also in a prime position to tear it up next year, and might even get another. Edit: some of yall musta forgot

Leo - Might already be the greatest init ever (although im still gonna give that to Sacy). But I think we all know he can get alot done in the future

KangKang - Definitely passes the eye test. A World Champion with the bo5 kill record from that grand finals. Would probably need at least another finals or 2 more top 3 finishes to be in the discussion, as his only real run was his most recent. Definitely a possibility.

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Contenders (Could happen if things go right)
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Demon1 - Already a world champion, with the greatest performance in modern val history. A bad 2024 sets him back a bit, but he is definitely gifted enough to be able to do it in the future if things go right

Mako - In some people's eyes he's already the greatest smokes ever, a trophy would easily seal the deal. And another finals after that might be enough to convince people that he's the greatest regardless of role. DRX has been cooking recently so he's in a good spot right now (in my eyes at least).

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Fringe Contenders (not particularly likely or unlikely)
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Jawgemo - Already a world champion and the greatest raze ever. He would have to MVP a trophy winning run to seal the deal. Most people say that he's in the best position to do this of all the players currently listed, but it's way easier said than done

Derke - He has the stats, but we have 4 years of evidence that he's not good enough to be the best player on a trophy winning team. Like Jawgemo, he would have to MVP a trophy winning run to be in serious goat convos. Way easier said than done.

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Unlikely (distant from the GOAT debate + current situation makes it unlikely to get closer)
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Pancada - MVP'd a champs run, on arguably the greatest team ever. Thats a huge achievement, but he's definitely in a rough spot rn that makes it unlikely he'll do much in the future. And he'd have to do alot

Nats - is on Liquid

Texture/Meteor - Already (co)MVP'd a trophy and was in a finals before that, but like pancada and nats, are not really in a position for success right now. And they'd still have to do alot.

Cned - Is a champion but.... it hasn't been good since then and I just don't alot in store in the future.

Shao - MVP'd a trophy but... it hasn't been good since then and I just don't see alot in store in the future

Alfajer - MVP'd a trophy but... He's not even the best on his own team, and I don't even think he is currently better than Benjy. He'd have to do alot.

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Top Future Talents (not even close to the goat debate, but has the talent to get there eventually)

Primmie - Arguably ALREADY the most talented player in the world mechanically (although i need to see him more on the awp before i give him that)

Oxy - is on C9 (the only thing holding him back)

Riens - already had a phenomenal year individually, looks poised to match it again

Cryo - He's nuts. Was one of the greatest chambers back in the day, was/is a great jett, awper, and rifler. Insanely Talented, but probably needs a better agent pool/ role fix.

Verno - Just compare his tracker to primmie's. His TRS score, ACS, KAST, and HS% are neck-and-neck. The talent is definitely there and the ceiling is HIGH.

Sayf - He's nuts. Imo the best EMEA duelist pure skill wise. Needs to start being nuts at internationals. And continue playing lol

Sayonara - He's nuts. The talent is there

Reduxx - He's nuts. The talent is there

Meiy - He's nuts. The talent is there

Hyunmin - He's nuts. The talent is there

Flashback - He's nuts. The talent is there

#2
toofan1
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my goat flashback is not here

#21
TM06Nick
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me when i play valosim career

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Yuh_aye
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added

#3
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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0/8

#4
dort
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stopped reading at zekken

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Convoy
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owns your entire org and would not lose to FNS even if they dueled 100 times

#20
dort
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owns my org? if its my org how does he own it? ur not making a lot of sense here

#5
Froggy0_0
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good list

#6
kanyefan4238173
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include derke in the debate. his case is actually pretty bad BUT i think most say hes top 5

also include sayonara in the top future talents. he was insta picked up to challengers at 16 and destroyed against pros game in game out. tracker is insane too i think
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/KPI%20Sayonara%23gud/performance
1.4 k/d and top of leaderboard pretty good

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Yuh_aye
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added

#9
kanyefan4238173
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W post btw, even if i dont completely agree

#19
Yuh_aye
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ty!

#7
PP12123213123
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zekken ....

#10
kamisavitar
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Aspas and KangKang are already the goats
HM: Chronicle

#11
Aayan
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hmm I think benjyfishy could be somewhere here but overall I agree

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Yuh_aye
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thought about it but I already put riens and I think he's TH's best player by a good margin

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OCARINA
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Future talent should be reduxx sayonara fangeer snappy meiy woot hyunmin ... At least in my opinion

#13
reaper_rega08
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First of all I would put Derke over Tenz in the Goat list. Not sure why did you put Less. Benjyfishy as the potential for future GOAT status. Sayf is overrated. Jawgemo can be a contender too. Cryo, Pancada, Shao etc their golden days are over.

#15
ionlyHave1Zuni
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no mention of cauanzin anywhere 😴

#16
y0yster
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Meteor

#18
meanie
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Actual brain rot. You typed up all of those words just to glaze your fav players lol.

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meanie
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ok nah I’m going thru your posts and I think you’re just autistic. mb gang 💯

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Yuh_aye
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'Accuse the other of that which you are guilty'

https://www.vlr.gg/412408/zekken-belly-button-theory

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meanie
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me being freaky isn’t a sign of autism. you know what is though? you typing out literal essays for like half of all your 1300+ posts, that’s some obvious hyperfixation. hey I already said mb there’s no need to make fun of your condition bro I fw autistic ppl 🔥

#35
Yuh_aye
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you are not freaky,

you are a freak.

#36
meanie
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you’re putting up a bad representation on neurodivergent people here bro

#22
BUFF163
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yay is not in the goat debate

#24
Aayan
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yay mentioned 🗣️🗣️
buff spotted 👀❗❗

#26
Yuh_aye
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this post is not about the goat debate

But if your criteria for GOAT is "who was the best in their prime, which lasted a meaningful period of time" - which is a common criteria - Then it's yay. Nobody had a prime like him. ESPORTS player of the year.

I don't think he's the goat because that's not my criteria, but he's obviously in the discussion.

#25
RohffSadik
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Stopped reading at Zekken

#28
1243
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zekken disrespect in the replies, the guy is the best duelist in americas currently (aspas region idk), MVP at a master's tournament, constantly improving, nah you guys just hate sen

#51
kanyefan4238173
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I do hate Sen but I do believe zekken deserves to be a top contender

He’s 19 and already has an MVP and is on a good team which is willing to spend which is enough

Especially now that he’s going to more initiator play which is better than his Jett

#52
1243
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you know some ball, a little though, but you're european so it nullifies everything

#30
mxchelxz
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is chronicle dead?

#31
Yuh_aye
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Not that i know of, but reading (the first 2 lines) definitely is

#32
mxchelxz
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the big letters just got my attention

#33
Yuh_aye
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understandable

#37
PrincePuma01
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I genuinely believe RieNs could end up being the best initiator in the world if they win an international
Or he'll end up being like NiKo, regarded as the best (or one of the best) riflers in all of CS yet not having won a Major
His utility and aim reminds me of Leo

#38
unknown_trash
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Not having trexx anywhere on this list in 2024 is simply a crime.

#39
PessiPenaldo17
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No Karon in there. I ain’t taking you seriously

#40
anyr
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where is my goat N4RRATE

#41
I_LOVE_LESS
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you may not believe but soon Felipe will make the non believers pay.

#42
Selfim
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Pretty cool other than no Woot and shit ton of NA bias

#43
snowdivine
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this is the most retarded shit of all time

#44
SuperRoss
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what the fuck is kangkang doing up there XD

#45
TImmyisnugget
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Guardian 4k is all i have to say

#49
SuperRoss
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He's not top 20 bro

#46
Shadow_Monarch
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I think this Verno guy is the future.. check out this clip real quick damnn https://clips.twitch.tv/SarcasticCuriousBadgerKappaPride-fHg4e63FC7EAdufS

#50
destroylonely
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goat

#47
Blue_Iced_Tea
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The Nats one 💀

#48
Hades_Loves_Rb
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Rb

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