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Indian valorant dying

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#1
Araragi

Indians team are playing with each whole year(not improving), scrims with sea team doesn't help when there is only 1 ascension in a year.

Scrims≠tournament.

There should be more APAC tournament for tier 2 teams or our region will remain underdeveloped ( Our viewership is also on decline from 30k to only 500-600 viewers)

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juho
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when was it alive

#3
Araragi
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Brunei shouldn't talk

#4
ct_fd_str
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tf did brunei do

#14
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Brunei owns índia 🤡

#18
Araragi
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7-1

#55
Anguibok
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When they beat 2nd best KR team

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Smartest_Fan
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When was it alive

#6
Nipstyx
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and it will keep happening if our few good players (not "T1 ready" but good) don't get a chance in T1 league.

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Araragi
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In few years when GE will lose it franchise slot, We will be not t1 ready region forever.

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ct_fd_str
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i mean they got shit on in 23 with 3 Indian players

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Araragi
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They got shit on in 24 with 4 non Indian, what's your point.

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ct_fd_str
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they certainly played better

#19
Araragi
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Nah, they played better on 23. We had close game with top teams.

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Blackheart
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It's already dead bro, no tier 1 players in 4 years while African country like morocco are able to produce tier 1 player

#10
Araragi
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Johnqt is playing in America his whole life. I don't consider him morocco talent.

#22
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Doesnt change the fact that he is from morocco making him morocco talent

#26
Aaryan_dll
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Then we should claim FNS and Curry too? From that Logic. Saying the top ranked player in America is Indian he owns them? But that's just trash logic.

#29
bronzil_enjoyer
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fns was born in tanzania lil bro

#30
ItzZausty
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i honestly support your point but FNS and Curry are probs not the best examples you couldve chosen

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Blackheart
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Curry has USA flag, if you don't know, that means he is representing the USA while Johnqt does have the Morocco flag. Dont know what weird logic you are referring to

#24
Blackheart
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there are more Indian immigrants in the USA, so why is there not yet an Indian tier 1 player with an Indian flag?

#38
svionSKR
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INDIA DOSEN'T PROVIDE DUAL CITIZENSHIP SIMULTANEOUSLY

#25
Er3ngenes1s
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he moved to canada during his college visa was still active. not his whole life lmao. just look at his past teams

#41
rtyu
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he only started playing in NA in 2021,before that he played cs and valorant in morocco

#11
EseemedRes1180
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Maybe not split 3 has got some new young players that look good. Team are willing to sign unknown ranked players so its a good sign but yes our skill celling is not very high atm

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Araragi
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But playing alone in vcl SA won't improve them. we need more APAC tournament.

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Dattadri_sai
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11/12 just like Japan, the difference Japan gives a chance to their players, the result? you know yourself lol

Honestly, 10 teams Franchise system does not suit for APAC, maybe 16 will be good cuz 3 slot already wasted for japan & SA, and Pacific is so big too many countries in pacific that also deserved a spot

#17
deranker
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actually, I really like this idea.

people fail to realize that the valorant esport scene is still not much developed in regions like APAC, that's why it took them 4 years to get a trophy.

#20
Stormyv8
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Japan??? With arguably the best T2? Dying?

#21
Araragi
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I wonder what happens to their best t2 talent in vct league. Experience matters a lot. Doing good in scrims and local tournament means nothing.

#31
Stormyv8
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I agree their current Players are meh at best, but having one of the biggest market in val does not indicate a dying scene

#23
bearmans
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not the scene, but the player regeneration is kinda dead already.

#27
IonlywatchvcjXD
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You're clearly not familiar with jp scene.

Aace yatsuka and caedye only started playing this year.

Academy teams popping up everywhere even if we don't include questionable ones.

Yowamu and bnn started showing some promise ( albeit needed more guidance)

Mametu who never played in t2 is playing rn .

Talent regeneration in japan is far from dead...

#34
bearmans
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and then next year vcl winner will be the mixed jp-kr team, as always.

#36
IonlywatchvcjXD
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What's wrong with that? I mean sure, the idea of a full japanese with vcl is something i really desire but ,as long as new talents keeps popping out it doesn't really matter.

As long as it's not scarz winning vcl with 4 imports I don't really care who wins tbh.

#28
Er3ngenes1s
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riddle placed top 4 this ascension and top 2 last year. there is way more potential than india but scouting and talent development has been a lil issue for them which can be solved if orgs put their resources and time into it like academy teams and etc

#32
IonlywatchvcjXD
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I think VCJ has the most academy teams out of any regions rn so they definitely put a ton of resources

#43
Kim_Minjii
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But japan is little bit fell off to, to much koreans in challengers

#48
IonlywatchvcjXD
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That's just the scene in general tho, that's not to say it will just remain the same.

I can make arguments as to how this split's imports will be worse than previous splits(especially those on lesser known teams) . I can also argue why Japan next split will rely even less on imports next split(tldr Japan's increasing amount of talents replacing imports) and how it will hurt teams ( risks in taking in unproven talents) but benefitting the scene in the long term.

As long as not every team imports 2 players and the JP talent pool actually widens ( which it does; and orgs needs to utilize this fact) I think we are going to be in a good position

#35
K4ziuHa
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When was it alive

#37
Kaito_M8
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They were many of them 2021 - 2022. Idk the number but obviously much more of them than now

#39
Anzaldinho
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What can you really do about it?
Nice complaining, I understand, I see your vision, I recognize the problem
But what's your logical solution to this dilemma?

#40
jimjam789
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It's not about the amount of tourneys it's about the talent itself

Vcl sa is dominated by imports due to lack of talent

Take a look at rvnt, where sultan and dos9 who barely had prior experience are the best players despite their peers having substantially more experience

#42
everything
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From 30k to 500 is crazyyy

#44
reaper_rega08
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Valorant Mobile is the last hope.

#45
xO1xi
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Global eSports is the biggest reason for this downfall. There was a time when Indians used to say Kick Kappa and Hellranger and import good players. Prime Rossi lF was good( i know it's hard to believe but he used to diff texture and meteor) and even Skillz was decent. If only back then they had kicked Kappa hellranger the whole scene might have been different. The GE owner didn’t listen to the fans then and he is still not listening now. When we asked for imported players he ignored us . now we’re asking for Indian players and he still won’t listen. This org and the Indian Valorant scene are bound to fail because of people like Rushindra Sinha.

#46
botfragger432
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Fr Kappa let GE down so bad. If only they had someone else even import who knew initiator. Moreover, God Particles was also insane in 2021, if GE had focused to put two players from GP, then they would have atleast made it to top5/6 in APAC 22'

#47
KClaw
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Haa bro definitely, make ur own org and do ur own stuff

#49
botfragger432
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Keep meatriding foreign player in GE 🤡. Congratulations, you have officially became that guy who doesn't believe or want their own country player except botssi in GE.

#51
VALuLrant_Addict619
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Exactly bro i dont understand the logic behind supporting GE when they don't even have a single indian player in the team
Just supporting GE because it's an indian org?? LMAOOO

#53
xO1xi
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Fr they think indian players= GE Rossi,LF bc aur v players hai india mai..

#50
VALuLrant_Addict619
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That 30k viewership was only because of the Pubg ban in India and all the pubg creators from S8UL were supporting Valorant because they didn't have any other choice than playing and watching valorant because of Pubg ban
Other reason was orgs like GE and VLT had their fanbases in India so their fans would just watch the match because their favorite org was playing when GE and VLT left the local circuit more than 50℅ of viewership went down.
The Truth is Valorant as a Esports was never famous in India.

#52
_Echo_
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Valorant is dying everywhere, not only in India. The average viewership is declining. Apart from the popular teams like Sentinels, PRX, Lev etc., other teams are not able to pull in much crowd. If more tournaments are not added it will surely die in a few years.

#54
TEHMANISDINGIN
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I really dont care about Indian valorant, if their region die it doesnt matter for vct apac cause their region defenetly didnt have any impact. For views? No shit, their youtube account only have like 5k views. Lmao

#56
hzlnuts
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the only answer to solve these problems : just GIT GUD LMAO

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