You guys still hate ge even after seeing what's going on and what they are doing for the scene
Our finest talent got out in first stage of tryouts
Now rnt performance at ascension
You guys still want ge to go with more indian plyrs when they are clearly not capable
Ge getting a academy team of 5 Indians with seperate, good coach is not enough??
You guys think geng is same as ge?
Geng are way older and bigger than ge
If you guys think that ge ia rich asf pls come out of that delusion.
Forget ge, there is hardly any org in India who can bear franchise expenses, let alone making a good roster
Your support not only help them financially but help them to grow.
You say you don't care about the roster yet I see your comments on thread related to ge
Ig what GE 2023 should hv done take 5 Indian Import lineUp (best of best)
Then Indians/GE can see where 5 Indians stand (might be last, but it would give clear pic)
And then proceed to replace them by imports
Like GE 2024 3/2 Indians
And then depending upon growth no. of Indians in GE should be decided for GE 2025,
This could be the fastest way to develop and Motivate Indian scene
The benefit of taking 5 Indians in 2023, would really calm the fans demanding for full Indian roster and also give decent international experience to Those chosen 5
Bro there is nothing ge can do when indian plyrs growth rate is so low. Rnt despite bootcamping in Thailand for almost 2 months delivered this performance.
What is the guarantee that indian plyrs will improve when the past data clearly shows our improvement rate?
Also it is quite visible where 5 indian stands when they can't even win in vcl sa
More and more chance
GE fumbled the scene initially by not taking more Indians
This also struck them financially as they had to buyout texture, monyet, Ayrin import sal, Bazzi
2023 was so dead for Indian Valo just coz GE suddenly abandoned, India, Viewership dies too.
Growth rate can only increase if u push the scene INITIALLY dats all wat am I saying
China has their own Franchise system and dats y they r getting so good and so fast,
Bro atleast there has to be some spark. Only techno remain in tryouts process and other got eliminated early including venka.
First let indian plyr prove themselves at t2, or else we will witness another lf and Rossi at t1
It's not like no indian plyr played at t1 level for decent amt if time.
And if you guys say that Rossi is not finest then see the stats, he is still farming sa
If I had a call:
GE 2023: (Venka, Techno didn't have much impact in 2022)
SkRossi
LF
DM
Rawfiul
Hellf (IGL)
Depending upon Individual performance (take top 2, doesn't matter who it is, go by teamplay and stats):
GE 2024:
Russ
BlaZeking
(Best 2 performer from 2023)
Benkai
(In mid split IF Indians r underperforming, replace them with imports: Polvi or any1)
GE 2025:
Now u have 3-4 VCT + VCSA exp pros + Venka, Techno
Now cook ur lineUp with imports as per 2 years performance
U can also have 1 Indians
No one will cry for 5 Indians as we already did dat and it didn't worked
Or 2nd scenario:
Should have a GE Academy since 2023:
But ig Riot didn't allow it in 2023
Techno is still in tryouts I heard and Venka also had good run,
And yes dats what I am trying to say bro
IF GE SUPORTED INDIA FULLY in 2023, situation would be better
And If fair opportunities r given, then I hope GE will cook crazy lineUp as XAN dropped 39 and is good Fragger
And YESicaN is obv Goated
But idk how player like MarkL sneaked in b/w such heavy aimers
Hope Juv3nile doesn't do spin 2.0😭
Bro in 2023 , the approach was not bad, it's just other things like language issue and roles issues , the roster failed
They wanted to retain the roster but lacked the finances
This time , they gave spin , big time and hellranger chance to make the roster which didn't worked out
Now they are going for much fair and better approach
Why not support them by buying the bundle.
You guys think there new coach is cheap?
This time they are spending even more money and time, still you guys hate and dont support them
I gave the reasoning well, why 2023 approach was bad and I am not even talking about the results doesn't matter their ranking, just read the reasonings
Im here justifying their contribution to Initial growth of Indian Valorant,
There r multiple reasons y GE is hated, and their financial constraints are a clear side effect of their over spending in 2023
Those who have had hopes in past never followed the CS scene in south asia. Almost every Indian and Pakistani is an ex-CS pro, who failed to win even a single ESL India tourney. It was won every time by a team from Dubai (Risky gaming) which was later known as NASR. The competition level was so low that SEA teams were not even interested in participating for basically free cash.
You are expecting the same players to change their work ethic, laid back attitude and switching teams for same result next year to perform. 4 years have gone by and none of the players have managed a top 50 leaderboard finish, grinded like jinggg & forsaken duo, shifted to Chennai for better ping. 3 major orgs (VLT, Enigma and Orangutan) have left the scene in this region.
TLDR; we need to watch Chess Olympiad rather than valorant washed players.
"You guys still want ge to go with more indian plyrs when they are clearly not capable"
Yes because more you give them experience more they will be capable, less you give experience less they will be capable.
It's ok to sacrifice 5 year at the bottom, if you can produce an Indian super team after 5 years
Lol even 5 more years are not enough for a indian team to qualify at high level.
Our achievement from past 4 years clearly shows that.
Also you guys don't think that t1 will be too much for these indian plyrs when they haven't even played t2 much
Do you want to see another lf and Rossi at t1 level
First let a 5 indian men team win vcl sa then we can think about indian superteam at t1 level
5 year of tier 1 will make player improve.
" First let a 5 indian men team win vcl sa then we can think about indian superteam at t1 level" This will never happen if your best player doesnt have experience even if they are not good enough, what will happen in T2 is that you will have more and more import and make develop less and less your new players, and the level of the region will continue to drop
In 2021 you beat Damwon that make top 3 at event (Ending in 1-2), more time pass, more Indian level seem to drop, last year you went 0-4 (We will see if you end in 0-2 this year)
Trust your player, sure they will suffer at the first, but what of the point of a going full import with player that represent no one. "the important thing is to participate" as was saying the creator of modern Olympics, you guys don't even participate. They are no reason Thailand is able to fill at least 2 roster, and you cant, especially after 5 year of promoting player that will also feed your soloQ. If you continue importing, your level will continue to drop, that litterrally what killed NA in LoL, you can continue in this downward spiral or you can try to break the circle
The t1 experience you are talking about might break them mentally.
See this as level.
You are at level 2 and are suddenly asked to play at lvl 5.
What will happen??
Tell me
T1 is not a place to learn basics of the game and util uses
Atleast get good t2 experience first
And if you are comparing our talent with other t2 talent, then pls remember the difference
Our plyrs are struggling in open tryouts of ge
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