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arin2016

I casually forgot about shitmea ascension but now that I check it, the german org is out?

Why is Germany unable to put a roster together. Too poor to get into franchising and too untalented to win ascension, sad

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was gold gold gold gold gold häh

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Drillaz valorant team with coach ohnepixel, we will be there

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arin2016

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kus kus kus

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this would be a good bait if u were not from japan,not even worth to say anything back

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Enough money/clout to get into franchising with 2 orgs initially. Ascension gets 200k+ viewers. Richest t2 scene by far only second to NA. Every team has an academy team. That bodork guy or whatever is obsessed with VCJ.

Your best player gets ordered around by Indians. So we know who's the one who isn't worth saying anything back to

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finnish best player is derke...

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arin2016

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Derke is ethnically Russian. That is cheating

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rtyu

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crazy cause his twitter bio only has the finnish flag,where u grew up matters way more than ur ethnicity in defining who u are

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Okay while I don't agree with arin, there is a probably a very good reason for that... Derke on his Liquidpedia page has the Russian flag.

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rtyu

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yeah cause he probably officially has 2 passports

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arin2016

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So he isn't yours. You guys are sharing him with Russians at best, even then that's grasping at straws.

Your rep will always be Polvi.

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jamppi exists

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rtyu

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so he is ours and russian? Doesnt matter to me, he is still better than any japanese fps player in ur esport history

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arin2016

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https://x.com/Derke/status/1439287481183113223
https://x.com/Derke/status/1439288058550099969

Absolutely exposed. Cope is insane. We aren't even at the same level. Even polvi is shocked lmao

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arin2016

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Shitmea claims Demon1 all the time. I'm playing by you guys' rules. Suddenly the goal post moves when it's beneficial to you lmao. Didn't know Fins were so shameless. Point noted.

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u are talking to me,i dont claim demon1,obviously he is way more american than russian

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arin2016

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But your people do. You are accountable for your people's actions. Every "top russian players" thread has Demon1 and Derke in them. I didn't make those threads, you guys did. So figure it out among yourselves.

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there is no "my people" stay on the topic,i have never claimed demon1 is emea cause he came from russia u make any rules to what i personally have to claim when talking to wtf lol

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Doesn't matter what you did or did not. Like I said, I'm playing by the rules your guys set.

Putting aside the fact that you guys can't get a team out, the fact that you are this desperate to claim someone who is very obviously Russian, it speaks for itself.

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by that logic the only American players are the ones with native American heritage

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Harapan845

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derke is finnish

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rtyu

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really weak comeback,just tells how talentless japan is a as a region,not a soul in finland cares about valorant and we still have more success than japan lmfao

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"more success" highest level of delusion lmao. I hope you're not referring to d0rke because he's Russian

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bonecold has more trophies than japan has final appearances lmfaoo

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arin2016

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Isn't that a Pokemon's name? The fact that nobody probably knows him but everyone knows ZETA speaks for itself. No one cares about his mickey trophy wins. ZETA's third place masters finish is better than his entire career, the fact that everyone knows about it and calls it the "ZETA run" but no one knows about Bonecold or whatever,

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everybody knows japan cause u are the special kid everyone roots for and wants to do well cause people dont even see u as competition,its not a achievement to have 1 fluke run and 0 world class talent or improvement in 4 years with a scene bigger than a whole continent pipe down

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You sound upset. Why are you telling me to pipe down? What's up with that delusional analogy? Bro is out here writing fictional stories. I sleep comfortably knowing everyone agrees with me on which is the better region.

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u know its true bro,nobody is even mad when japan beats their teams cause everyone is just happy to finally see u win something,literally treated like a special ed kid,congrats on ur country of 125m million people being slightly better than a country of 5m people where valorant isnt even a top 5 esport,truly a massive achievement for ur nation

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It seems like you have something against special ed kids. As expected, the Finnish man is the most insensitive one. If anything, everyone roots for Japan because everyone loves the teams and the country. The fins wouldn't know anything about that though. Mind you, Japan also has no tacfps history. Keep grasping at straws when the whole world agrees with me 💪

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Ik he is baiting but I won't take the "Japan is talentless" slander, Teams don't invest in academy teams because there are no talent, they invest because there is a potential to do so, and the notion of Japan is talentless were proven to be false again with Fennel and Murash reaching top 4 and Riddle whose Japanese players are all former Zeta AC's managed to win the whole split despite this being their first time being in the split.

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Agree,the worst val area

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they recycle old players
bad scouting in general
not that many talents (as far as i know)
weird decisions from game managers: for example: Fokus changed last second Region from Polaris to Dach, needed to rebuild their Roster, where they heavy invested and got rid of two insane players (Lime and Fizzy)from their original Roster for two mid players, where one was also changed a couple days before season, they had less practice with the new Roster, fumbled important games (lost against Rizon, which had only this one Win the whole
season) and just didnt played to their potential, on paper their original Roster was the strongest in Emea T2 (Al0rante, Seider, Fizzy, Lime and YaboiLewis) and shouldve won Ascension without problems, but because of these problems they went 4th in Dach
but next Season they r definetly a contender, their scouting in general is very good and theyve been many years in Val now, so theres hope

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Good info. Well drilla, at least you're honest unlike some other German flags.

With the way things are going, Italy might get a team out before you guys.

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i mean there are decent german orgs like Mouz, CGN, FOKUS, Eintracht Frankfurt and SK with lots of money (especially Fokus and SK and Eintracht Frankfurt) and if given time one of them will def get T1 sooner or later, its just that they need to find young talented players (from inside and outside of germany) to create a good Roster
Eintracht said in an interview that they are willing to invest and work for a longer period to reach T1
ig next season already can be a german org in the finale, maybe even two seeing that CGN won Ascension and got 3rd
basically it can only get better

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Liem

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CGN placed third in ascension while italy got grouped. what are you talking about

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not too poor to get into franchising. Riot screwed them over, simple as

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exactly -> 3 spanish orgs, 2 french orgs but 0 german, like wtf the Arena is even in Berlin and with Fokus or Mouz the seats wouldve been atleast sold out

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You're right, bring the arena to Spain kekw

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bring it to france tbh, then spain and germany can go (if only spain and france werent so stupidly large that its like an entire day journey per train)

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In Spain we mostly fly places, everything is too far to drive or take the train, so it doesn't really matter if it's France or Berlin

And I fly very often to Germany and you can gets flights to Spain for 20 Euros which is much cheaper than what a train would cost

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holy crap
ye thats fair, Im very train pilled since thats just super cheap for me (got a perma train ticket for my job anyways) that I didnt even think of flights

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Mortadelo

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I fly to a smaller German city frequently and I have to take plane + train, the plane ticket is usually the cheaper of the 2 xD

We have so many germans in Spain it makes the connection cheap af (That makes the price change a lot depending on the month tho)

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Yeah, no Mouz no Spirit no VP but they have BBL, FUT and KOI

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nah like all the orgs are fine in isolation
like cant really complain about KOI getting in, theyre huge, same with the other 2

its just that they didnt consider spreading fanbases at all

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0 trophies, recycling washed bots and KOI are just holding sheydos and grubinho in jail, I'm 100% sure MOUZ would have been better, they found Jimmi ropz frozen and other youngsters in cs ffs, one of the best scouting departments together with spirit

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ur absolutely right or atleast Fokus, which is germanys biggest esport org, with lots of money and got many years of experience in val by now

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the rosters didnt and dont matter for the selection of orgs

like dont get me wrong im totally on your side here, I was shocked that they didnt give one of each CL an org in t1 and would love to see a Dach, Portuguese, Italian, Eastern or Mena org join, but that just wasnt a goal

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why do we need 3 spanish orgs where their only fans are spanish but cant get 1 german tho

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where champs bud

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Incoming. Focus on Kaajak, this is important for you