I casually forgot about shitmea ascension but now that I check it, the german org is out?
Why is Germany unable to put a roster together. Too poor to get into franchising and too untalented to win ascension, sad
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lusmuu [#2]was gold gold gold gold gold häh
Drillaz valorant team with coach ohnepixel, we will be there
- they recycle old players
- bad scouting in general
- not that many talents (as far as i know)
- weird decisions from game managers: for example: Fokus changed last second Region from Polaris to Dach, needed to rebuild their Roster, where they heavy invested and got rid of two insane players (Lime and Fizzy)from their original Roster for two mid players, where one was also changed a couple days before season, they had less practice with the new Roster, fumbled important games (lost against Rizon, which had only this one Win the whole
season) and just didnt played to their potential, on paper their original Roster was the strongest in Emea T2 (Al0rante, Seider, Fizzy, Lime and YaboiLewis) and shouldve won Ascension without problems, but because of these problems they went 4th in Dach
but next Season they r definetly a contender, their scouting in general is very good and theyve been many years in Val now, so theres hope
rtyu [#4]this would be a good bait if u were not from japan,not even worth to say anything back
Enough money/clout to get into franchising with 2 orgs initially. Ascension gets 200k+ viewers. Richest t2 scene by far only second to NA. Every team has an academy team. That bodork guy or whatever is obsessed with VCJ.
Your best player gets ordered around by Indians. So we know who's the one who isn't worth saying anything back to
Huitzilopochtli [#6]
- they recycle old players
- bad scouting in general
- not that many talents (as far as i know)
- weird decisions from game managers: for example: Fokus changed last second Region from Polaris to Dach, needed to rebuild their Roster, where they heavy invested and got rid of two insane players (Lime and Fizzy)from their original Roster for two mid players, where one was also changed a couple days before season, they had less practice with the new Roster, fumbled important games (lost against Rizon, which had only this one Win the whole
season) and just didnt played to their potential, on paper their original Roster was the strongest in Emea T2 (Al0rante, Seider, Fizzy, Lime and YaboiLewis) and shouldve won Ascension without problems, but because of these problems they went 4th in Dach
but next Season they r definetly a contender, their scouting in general is very good and theyve been many years in Val now, so theres hope
Good info. Well drilla, at least you're honest unlike some other German flags.
With the way things are going, Italy might get a team out before you guys.
arin2016 [#7]Enough money/clout to get into franchising with 2 orgs initially. Ascension gets 200k+ viewers. Richest t2 scene by far only second to NA. Every team has an academy team. That bodork guy or whatever is obsessed with VCJ.
Your best player gets ordered around by Indians. So we know who's the one who isn't worth saying anything back to
finnish best player is derke...
arin2016 [#7]Enough money/clout to get into franchising with 2 orgs initially. Ascension gets 200k+ viewers. Richest t2 scene by far only second to NA. Every team has an academy team. That bodork guy or whatever is obsessed with VCJ.
Your best player gets ordered around by Indians. So we know who's the one who isn't worth saying anything back to
derke is finnish
arin2016 [#7]Enough money/clout to get into franchising with 2 orgs initially. Ascension gets 200k+ viewers. Richest t2 scene by far only second to NA. Every team has an academy team. That bodork guy or whatever is obsessed with VCJ.
Your best player gets ordered around by Indians. So we know who's the one who isn't worth saying anything back to
really weak comeback,just tells how talentless japan is a as a region,not a soul in finland cares about valorant and we still have more success than japan lmfao
arin2016 [#11]Derke is ethnically Russian. That is cheating
crazy cause his twitter bio only has the finnish flag,where u grew up matters way more than ur ethnicity in defining who u are
arin2016 [#8]Good info. Well drilla, at least you're honest unlike some other German flags.
With the way things are going, Italy might get a team out before you guys.
i mean there are decent german orgs like Mouz, CGN, FOKUS, Eintracht Frankfurt and SK with lots of money (especially Fokus and SK and Eintracht Frankfurt) and if given time one of them will def get T1 sooner or later, its just that they need to find young talented players (from inside and outside of germany) to create a good Roster
Eintracht said in an interview that they are willing to invest and work for a longer period to reach T1
ig next season already can be a german org in the finale, maybe even two seeing that CGN won Ascension and got 3rd
basically it can only get better
rtyu [#12]really weak comeback,just tells how talentless japan is a as a region,not a soul in finland cares about valorant and we still have more success than japan lmfao
"more success" highest level of delusion lmao. I hope you're not referring to d0rke because he's Russian
arin2016 [#11]Derke is ethnically Russian. That is cheating
by that logic the only American players are the ones with native American heritage
rtyu [#13]crazy cause his twitter bio only has the finnish flag,where u grew up matters way more than ur ethnicity in defining who u are
Okay while I don't agree with arin, there is a probably a very good reason for that... Derke on his Liquidpedia page has the Russian flag.
arin2016 [#15]"more success" highest level of delusion lmao. I hope you're not referring to d0rke because he's Russian
bonecold has more trophies than japan has final appearances lmfaoo
orqn [#17]not too poor to get into franchising. Riot screwed them over, simple as
exactly -> 3 spanish orgs, 2 french orgs but 0 german, like wtf the Arena is even in Berlin and with Fokus or Mouz the seats wouldve been atleast sold out
rtyu [#13]crazy cause his twitter bio only has the finnish flag,where u grew up matters way more than ur ethnicity in defining who u are
Shitmea claims Demon1 all the time. I'm playing by you guys' rules. Suddenly the goal post moves when it's beneficial to you lmao. Didn't know Fins were so shameless. Point noted.
Huitzilopochtli [#20]exactly -> 3 spanish orgs, 2 french orgs but 0 german, like wtf the Arena is even in Berlin and with Fokus or Mouz the seats wouldve been atleast sold out
You're right, bring the arena to Spain kekw
vollizie [#18]Okay while I don't agree with arin, there is a probably a very good reason for that... Derke on his Liquidpedia page has the Russian flag.
yeah cause he probably officially has 2 passports
rtyu [#12]really weak comeback,just tells how talentless japan is a as a region,not a soul in finland cares about valorant and we still have more success than japan lmfao
Ik he is baiting but I won't take the "Japan is talentless" slander, Teams don't invest in academy teams because there are no talent, they invest because there is a potential to do so, and the notion of Japan is talentless were proven to be false again with Fennel and Murash reaching top 4 and Riddle whose Japanese players are all former Zeta AC's managed to win the whole split despite this being their first time being in the split.
rtyu [#19]bonecold has more trophies than japan has final appearances lmfaoo
Isn't that a Pokemon's name? The fact that nobody probably knows him but everyone knows ZETA speaks for itself. No one cares about his mickey trophy wins. ZETA's third place masters finish is better than his entire career, the fact that everyone knows about it and calls it the "ZETA run" but no one knows about Bonecold or whatever,
arin2016 [#21]Shitmea claims Demon1 all the time. I'm playing by you guys' rules. Suddenly the goal post moves when it's beneficial to you lmao. Didn't know Fins were so shameless. Point noted.
u are talking to me,i dont claim demon1,obviously he is way more american than russian
rtyu [#26]u are talking to me,i dont claim demon1,obviously he is way more american than russian
But your people do. You are accountable for your people's actions. Every "top russian players" thread has Demon1 and Derke in them. I didn't make those threads, you guys did. So figure it out among yourselves.
arin2016 [#25]Isn't that a Pokemon's name? The fact that nobody probably knows him but everyone knows ZETA speaks for itself. No one cares about his mickey trophy wins. ZETA's third place masters finish is better than his entire career, the fact that everyone knows about it and calls it the "ZETA run" but no one knows about Bonecold or whatever,
everybody knows japan cause u are the special kid everyone roots for and wants to do well cause people dont even see u as competition,its not a achievement to have 1 fluke run and 0 world class talent or improvement in 4 years with a scene bigger than a whole continent pipe down
Mortadelo [#22]You're right, bring the arena to Spain kekw
bring it to france tbh, then spain and germany can go (if only spain and france werent so stupidly large that its like an entire day journey per train)
arin2016 [#27]But your people do. You are accountable for your people's actions. Every "top russian players" thread has Demon1 and Derke in them. I didn't make those threads, you guys did. So figure it out among yourselves.
there is no "my people" stay on the topic,i have never claimed demon1 is emea cause he came from russia u make any rules to what i personally have to claim when talking to wtf lol
rtyu [#23]yeah cause he probably officially has 2 passports
So he isn't yours. You guys are sharing him with Russians at best, even then that's grasping at straws.
Your rep will always be Polvi.
orqn [#17]not too poor to get into franchising. Riot screwed them over, simple as
Yeah, no Mouz no Spirit no VP but they have BBL, FUT and KOI
arin2016 [#31]So he isn't yours. You guys are sharing him with Russians at best, even then that's grasping at straws.
Your rep will always be Polvi.
jamppi exists
arin2016 [#31]So he isn't yours. You guys are sharing him with Russians at best, even then that's grasping at straws.
Your rep will always be Polvi.
so he is ours and russian? Doesnt matter to me, he is still better than any japanese fps player in ur esport history
Itsover [#32]Yeah, no Mouz no Spirit no VP but they have BBL, FUT and KOI
nah like all the orgs are fine in isolation
like cant really complain about KOI getting in, theyre huge, same with the other 2
its just that they didnt consider spreading fanbases at all
Targu1n [#29]bring it to france tbh, then spain and germany can go (if only spain and france werent so stupidly large that its like an entire day journey per train)
In Spain we mostly fly places, everything is too far to drive or take the train, so it doesn't really matter if it's France or Berlin
And I fly very often to Germany and you can gets flights to Spain for 20 Euros which is much cheaper than what a train would cost
Mortadelo [#36]In Spain we mostly fly places, everything is too far to drive or take the train, so it doesn't really matter if it's France or Berlin
And I fly very often to Germany and you can gets flights to Spain for 20 Euros which is much cheaper than what a train would cost
holy crap
ye thats fair, Im very train pilled since thats just super cheap for me (got a perma train ticket for my job anyways) that I didnt even think of flights
rtyu [#30]there is no "my people" stay on the topic,i have never claimed demon1 is emea cause he came from russia u make any rules to what i personally have to claim when talking to wtf lol
Doesn't matter what you did or did not. Like I said, I'm playing by the rules your guys set.
Putting aside the fact that you guys can't get a team out, the fact that you are this desperate to claim someone who is very obviously Russian, it speaks for itself.
Targu1n [#35]nah like all the orgs are fine in isolation
like cant really complain about KOI getting in, theyre huge, same with the other 2its just that they didnt consider spreading fanbases at all
0 trophies, recycling washed bots and KOI are just holding sheydos and grubinho in jail, I'm 100% sure MOUZ would have been better, they found Jimmi ropz frozen and other youngsters in cs ffs, one of the best scouting departments together with spirit
arin2016 [#38]Doesn't matter what you did or did not. Like I said, I'm playing by the rules your guys set.
Putting aside the fact that you guys can't get a team out, the fact that you are this desperate to claim someone who is very obviously Russian, it speaks for itself.
yes it does matter cause there is no "rules you guys set" u are literally making them out of ur head and applying them to me lol,just like demon1 is from the us just like 99% of people think so is derke from finland lol
rtyu [#34]so he is ours and russian? Doesnt matter to me, he is still better than any japanese fps player in ur esport history
https://x.com/Derke/status/1439287481183113223
https://x.com/Derke/status/1439288058550099969
Absolutely exposed. Cope is insane. We aren't even at the same level. Even polvi is shocked lmao
Targu1n [#37]holy crap
ye thats fair, Im very train pilled since thats just super cheap for me (got a perma train ticket for my job anyways) that I didnt even think of flights
I fly to a smaller German city frequently and I have to take plane + train, the plane ticket is usually the cheaper of the 2 xD
We have so many germans in Spain it makes the connection cheap af (That makes the price change a lot depending on the month tho)
rtyu [#40]yes it does matter cause there is no "rules you guys set" u are literally making them out of ur head and applying them to me lol,just like demon1 is from the us just like 99% of people think so is derke from finland lol
No you're wrong. Like I said, these are you guys' rules and according to them Derke is Russian.
arin2016 [#41]https://x.com/Derke/status/1439287481183113223
https://x.com/Derke/status/1439288058550099969Absolutely exposed. Cope is insane. We aren't even at the same level. Even polvi is shocked lmao
lol what did u expose,did i say he isnt russian? He claims both lol
Itsover [#39]0 trophies, recycling washed bots and KOI are just holding sheydos and grubinho in jail, I'm 100% sure MOUZ would have been better, they found Jimmi ropz frozen and other youngsters in cs ffs, one of the best scouting departments together with spirit
ur absolutely right or atleast Fokus, which is germanys biggest esport org, with lots of money and got many years of experience in val by now
Itsover [#39]0 trophies, recycling washed bots and KOI are just holding sheydos and grubinho in jail, I'm 100% sure MOUZ would have been better, they found Jimmi ropz frozen and other youngsters in cs ffs, one of the best scouting departments together with spirit
the rosters didnt and dont matter for the selection of orgs
like dont get me wrong im totally on your side here, I was shocked that they didnt give one of each CL an org in t1 and would love to see a Dach, Portuguese, Italian, Eastern or Mena org join, but that just wasnt a goal
arin2016 [#43]No you're wrong. Like I said, these are you guys' rules and according to them Derke is Russian.
no ur wrong,like i said these are the rules i use so they are the ones that apply when u are talking to me,its already embarassing that japan is so shit u have to actually argue against a country that doesnt give a single fuck about the game,im sure if u ask derke himself he would say he claims both
rtyu [#44]lol what did u expose,did i say he isnt russian? He claims both lol
https://x.com/FlexDude4/status/1691171797570355200
You're like this dude. Tried claiming Derke's from Finland and Derke himself had to correct him. Blood doesn't lie. Continue being shameless with the mountain of evidence. You're only making your region look bad by doing so many mental gymnastics and cope
arin2016 [#49]https://x.com/FlexDude4/status/1691171797570355200
You're like this dude. Tried claiming Derke's from Finland and Derke himself had to correct him. Blood doesn't lie. Continue being shameless with the mountain of evidence. You're only making your region look bad by doing so many mental gymnastics and cope
can u please read #44 again
rtyu [#28]everybody knows japan cause u are the special kid everyone roots for and wants to do well cause people dont even see u as competition,its not a achievement to have 1 fluke run and 0 world class talent or improvement in 4 years with a scene bigger than a whole continent pipe down
You sound upset. Why are you telling me to pipe down? What's up with that delusional analogy? Bro is out here writing fictional stories. I sleep comfortably knowing everyone agrees with me on which is the better region.
rtyu [#50]can u please read #44 again
Don't tell me what to do. You read #44 again. And then read my thing again.
arin2016 [#52]Don't tell me what to do. You read #44 again. And then read my thing again.
yes u keep saying he is russian which is correct nobody has ever denied that,just like people say demon1 is russian but he still represents the US,it isnt hard to understand but every time i say this u try to cope and bring up ur imagination "rules" that i never talked about
rtyu [#53]yes u keep saying he is russian which is correct nobody has ever denied that,just like people say demon1 is russian but he still represents the US,it isnt hard to understand but every time i say this u try to cope and bring up ur imagination "rules" that i never talked about
You denied that he is Russian and tried to claim him for yourselves.
rtyu [#47]no ur wrong,like i said these are the rules i use so they are the ones that apply when u are talking to me,its already embarassing that japan is so shit u have to actually argue against a country that doesnt give a single fuck about the game,im sure if u ask derke himself he would say he claims both
Calm down buddy. I don't understand why you're getting THIS mad when you said "we don't care about this game" surely you absolutely do if you've replied to me this many times. It's hilarious actually. Are all Finnish people this shameless and live in denial?
arin2016 [#51]You sound upset. Why are you telling me to pipe down? What's up with that delusional analogy? Bro is out here writing fictional stories. I sleep comfortably knowing everyone agrees with me on which is the better region.
u know its true bro,nobody is even mad when japan beats their teams cause everyone is just happy to finally see u win something,literally treated like a special ed kid,congrats on ur country of 125m million people being slightly better than a country of 5m people where valorant isnt even a top 5 esport,truly a massive achievement for ur nation
arin2016 [#8]Good info. Well drilla, at least you're honest unlike some other German flags.
With the way things are going, Italy might get a team out before you guys.
CGN placed third in ascension while italy got grouped. what are you talking about
arin2016 [#55]Calm down buddy. I don't understand why you're getting THIS mad when you said "we don't care about this game" surely you absolutely do if you've replied to me this many times. It's hilarious actually. Are all Finnish people this shameless and live in denial?
im saying it without 0 exaggeration that this game is completely irrelevant in finland,whenever a finnish player plays they have to include his name in the official broadcast title and it gets maybe 150 viewers max in champs or masters,thats why its hilarious that this is even a debate im able to have and just amounts to how dissapointing japan really is
arin2016 [#54]You denied that he is Russian and tried to claim him for yourselves.
i said that he is russian and represents finland,thats what u are arguing against currently
rtyu [#56]u know its true bro,nobody is even mad when japan beats their teams cause everyone is just happy to finally see u win something,literally treated like a special ed kid,congrats on ur country of 125m million people being slightly better than a country of 5m people where valorant isnt even a top 5 esport,truly a massive achievement for ur nation
It seems like you have something against special ed kids. As expected, the Finnish man is the most insensitive one. If anything, everyone roots for Japan because everyone loves the teams and the country. The fins wouldn't know anything about that though. Mind you, Japan also has no tacfps history. Keep grasping at straws when the whole world agrees with me 💪
Targu1n [#46]the rosters didnt and dont matter for the selection of orgs
like dont get me wrong im totally on your side here, I was shocked that they didnt give one of each CL an org in t1 and would love to see a Dach, Portuguese, Italian, Eastern or Mena org join, but that just wasnt a goal
why do we need 3 spanish orgs where their only fans are spanish but cant get 1 german tho
rtyu [#59]i said that he is russian and represents finland,thats what u are arguing against currently
You basically denied his Russian ethnicity and tried to claim him as a Fin
arin2016 [#62]You basically denied his Russian ethnicity and tried to claim him as a Fin
im basically saying he is representing both,russian as his ethnicity and finland as the country he lives in
rtyu [#58]im saying it without 0 exaggeration that this game is completely irrelevant in finland,whenever a finnish player plays they have to include his name in the official broadcast title and it gets maybe 150 viewers max in champs or masters,thats why its hilarious that this is even a debate im able to have and just amounts to how dissapointing japan really is
Why are you telling your villain origin story? I don't care about the reason behind the finnish scene being dogshit. The fact is that it is dogshit. Valorant is the most popular tacfps in the world and the fins are uninvolved, just like in everything else. A tale as old as time.
But do keep telling me about this reason behind fins sucking at Valorant, it's kind of interesting actually.
arin2016 [#60]It seems like you have something against special ed kids. As expected, the Finnish man is the most insensitive one. If anything, everyone roots for Japan because everyone loves the teams and the country. The fins wouldn't know anything about that though. Mind you, Japan also has no tacfps history. Keep grasping at straws when the whole world agrees with me 💪
i dont have anything against special ed kids,its just a comparison that fits japan so well in esports
rtyu [#65]i dont have anything against special ed kids,its just a comparison that fits japan so well in esports
You clearly have something against special ed kids and it reflects the ever known poor attitude of fins
arin2016 [#64]Why are you telling your villain origin story? I don't care about the reason behind the finnish scene being dogshit. The fact is that it is dogshit. Valorant is the most popular tacfps in the world and the fins are uninvolved, just like in everything else. A tale as old as time.
But do keep telling me about this reason behind fins sucking at Valorant, it's kind of interesting actually.
japan english is even worse than japan valorant,me explaining how irrelevant the game is is not a "villain origin story" mr japan,nobody had interest in val since the beginnning,while japan was probably already making valorant porn when the beta dropped and still cant do shit with all the possible resources and interest
arin2016 [#67]You clearly have something against special ed kids and it reflects the ever known poor attitude of fins
not my fault japan is treated like one tho,u can take that however u want
rtyu [#69]japan english is even worse than japan valorant,me explaining how irrelevant the game is is not a "villain origin story" mr japan,nobody had interest in val since the beginnning,while japan was probably already making valorant porn when the beta dropped and still cant do shit with all the possible resources and interest
Ad hominem is not going to help you. You're once again losing your cool. Technically, you were explaining your villain origin story in a very sad manner. I don't know if you're trying to get sympathy from me or something but that's what you were doing. The fact remains, Japan doesn't even have an FPS history. But fins do. What good did that do?
Hopefully you won't try to gain sympathy from me again because I'm not trying to be your friend.
rtyu [#70]not my fault japan is treated like one tho,u can take that however u want
Japan is a country, it cannot be treated like what you are referring to. Your comment is highly illogical and insensitive, and you not caring about that also highlights a known issue among finlanders
rtyu [#63]im basically saying he is representing both,russian as his ethnicity and finland as the country he lives in
Nope. You denied his Russian ethnicity and tried to claim him as a fin thinking nobody would notice.
arin2016 [#71]Ad hominem is not going to help you. You're once again losing your cool. Technically, you were explaining your villain origin story in a very sad manner. I don't know if you're trying to get sympathy from me or something but that's what you were doing. The fact remains, Japan doesn't even have an FPS history. But fins do. What good did that do?
Hopefully you won't try to gain sympathy from me again because I'm not trying to be your friend.
technically it wasnt a story what i said but lets countinue,japan has over 100x the population of finland,again i dont think u understand the perspective of this argument,a country half of the population of tokyo has better valorant players than japan with no interest in the game,not having "fps culture" doesnt make that less embarassing
arin2016 [#73]Nope. You denied his Russian ethnicity and tried to claim him as a fin thinking nobody would notice.
yeah but he is both so how can i do that
rtyu [#74]technically it wasnt a story what i said but lets countinue,japan has over 100x the population of finland,again i dont think u understand the perspective of this argument,a country half of the population of tokyo has better valorant players than japan with no interest in the game,not having "fps culture" doesnt make that less embarassing
We're at 100 replies, how has bro still not noticed. fins must be proper stupid
Anyways, keep it at buddy. Derke is russian.
arin2016 [#72]Japan is a country, it cannot be treated like what you are referring to. Your comment is highly illogical and insensitive, and you not caring about that also highlights a known issue among finlanders
i understand what ur saying but its more of a metaphor,u are treated better than others because people feel sympathy for ur massive fanbase and scene who have to suffer every year and be the punching bag to everyone
rtyu [#77]i understand what ur saying but its more of a metaphor,u are treated better than others because people feel sympathy for ur massive fanbase and scene who have to suffer every year and be the punching bag to everyone
Even as a metaphor that doesn't work because a country cannot be represented as a singular child. That makes no sense.
arin2016 [#76]We're at 100 replies, how has bro still not noticed. fins must be proper stupid
Anyways, keep it at buddy. Derke is russian.
but i think he is both since he seems to claim finland too
arin2016 [#78]Even as a metaphor that doesn't work because a country cannot be represented as a singular child. That makes no sense.
it actually works perfectly because it doesnt matter if its a singular child or a animal what matters is the comparison in the treatment,thats usually how metaphors work bro,the entire point is that the 2 phenoms u string together are different but same,u trying to act smart just exposes how stupid u are
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