just to end the debate

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kalayav_n

RUSSIA and BRAZIL absolutely clear every and any other country in world cup valorant. Please stop with the other nonsense,

LESS(IGL)
ASPAS
SACY
PANCADA
CAUANZIN(second IGL)

nAts(IGL)
SOMETHING
CHRON
SHEYDOS
TREXX

if you really think anyone is beating these teams, i honestly have no idea what to tell you

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Doesnt less have beef with sacy and pancada?

#3

kalayav_n

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is it illegal to grow as a person and forgive people?

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Well I dunno I didn't really watch back then but all I know is that they don't like him and stuff.

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Sidyon

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Ask crazyguy

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is it illegal to have beef and not forgive people?

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Zack1211

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geng clears

#5

kalayav_n

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grouped lil bro, none of these players have ever gotten grouped at champs(trexx doesn't count, he had to carry cocks and walkeR)

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Something? PRX?

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kalayav_n

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https://tenor.com/view/forget-it-flash-men-in-black-will-smith-gif-19235596

moving on

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Hyopic

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nats last year?

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https://tenor.com/view/forget-it-flash-men-in-black-will-smith-gif-19235596

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Hyopic

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sacy also got grouped at champs 2021 LOL

#31

kalayav_n

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https://tenor.com/view/forget-it-flash-men-in-black-will-smith-gif-19235596

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turkey are strong too

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kalayav_n

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kekw

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koromast

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turkiye would clear both these teams simply because they would have mrfallin who is an actual igl surrounded with woot riens alfa and yetujey

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LESS(IGL) nAts(IGL)

yeah... your argument crumbles right here thinking they can compete without a proper igl and team chem, its like the people who expected nrg to win it all this year without an igl

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kalayav_n

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ye nAts the guy who 2nd called gambit to a champs GF(they lost) and masters berlin win is a horrible IGL,

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koromast

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that was 3 years ago and he wasnt a main igl, yeah i can see how it wouldnt work, ethan and marved were 2nd callers when they won a trophy too and they won it more recently whats the point?

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the main difference being, nAts is a well proven caller. clearly ethan and marved aren't as they failed this year. its like saying, this cop is a bad cop meaning all cops are bad. please don't use this logic ever again!

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how is nats proven if he got as bad results bro

#21

kalayav_n

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? only results of him IGLING were towards the end of the year lol and it was pretty much positive. TL looked alot better

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koromast

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they didnt look better what you on?

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kalayav_n

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? your telling me TL before the last 3 games they played looked worse than they did all season?

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DBStudios

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"TL looked alot better"

maybe because their previous IGL was enz0 keke you could put anyone in and they would IGL better than him. Marved's IGLing also looked better than Dephh's so idk what you're whaffling on about.

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Less is NOT an igl

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michaelisupset

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stopped reading at less being the igl

#23

kanyefan4238173

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holy shit lurking igls

turkiye, korea, poland, usa, canada >>>

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kalayav_n

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FNS viper IGL'ed, also just because someone is a "MAIN" IGL doesn't mean they are the only one calling, if only you knew how it actually worked...

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LOL okay

your brazil team isnt vocal at all, russia similar to that too. put these teams in the world cup and they flop despite having strong rosters

you can talk about how vocal players are important and it isnt always the main igl, but then you make a team with inexperienced igls and non vocal players

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kalayav_n

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?

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bro tried to sneak in poland 😭 the rest are correct tho

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zhongZHI

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literally EDG for china and if u wanna argue s1mon just find another top tier chinese initator and we still win

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kalayav_n

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china are very good, no one even has them in their VLR worldcup

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zhongZHI

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i mean even for me edgs champs win doesnt feel real

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nAts as the IGL is dumb as hell
Sheydos/Trexx are both bums

Less/Cuanzin as the IGL is also dumb as hell

wtf is this Thread

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kalayav_n

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won't even respond to a lower being

#39

kanyefan4238173

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Aren’t u plat

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KClaw

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Bro wait for korea and china , turkey and USA:

China:
Smoggy
Chichoo
Nobody
Kangkang
Simon1

Korea:
Lakia
Texture
Meteor
Munchkin
Karon

Turkey:
Alfajer
Yeutejey
Woot
Riens
Qraxs

USA:
A whole lot of fucking damn good players

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putting s1mon there is controversial

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Camden

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it shouldnt be

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Hyopic

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no because of taiwan not because of skill LOL

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Camden

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what im saying is that its more controversial to say hes not chinese than it would be to leave him off

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That's even acceptable. But in this case, Less would not be igl. Sacy or cauanzin would be more suitable in this position. Sacy because of the experience and cauanzin because he has already shown interest in being igl.

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kalayav_n

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yeah but LESS is also a very good second caller, people think when i say LESS IGL they think hes creating strats and doing allat and stuff, he is a midrounder IGL.

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Less too busy fighting his teammates to fight the other team

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kalayav_n

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😭 chill, im actually looking forward to seeing if he changed as a person. the best of us are those who learn and change