S0n and L0vi tards come.

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Pras1mos

Now that i geted you attention.
Sen fans promised to support Lev if Sen losses, but, what you guys think, in case of Lev losing, lets all Americas support EDG?

China is treated like shit by most of Val, a Champs will bring more respect to the Chineses, and the China playerbase would quadruplicate.

Also, if you are a Sen or a Lev fan and still are going to support TH, ok, i respect that, but, remenbers that Emea call NA toxic, but does the same shit as NA, they are going to become 10x worst.
If you was wakeup this morning like me, you get what i am talking about.

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laeDLaer

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bronzil stfu

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Pras1mos

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Emea call NA toxic, but does the same shit as NA

See my fellows Americans? Its ok to want TH sucess.

But if they win, these type of people will get the ego 100 google busted.

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who 🚗

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learn england

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I do not like TH, I can't explain it I just don't like any of the players

I'm supporting lev, if they lose then EDG

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Pras1mos

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Chineses get too many shit on they, they deserve more respect.

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AstroGalaxy

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Could just say Chinese team or people but ok!

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do you understand that chinese playerbase quadruplicating will just fuck vct in the long term, right?

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Pras1mos

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I exaggerated but would surely duplicate.
And i cant understand why, can u explain me?

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Nef0r0

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take a look at other sports
reason why USA dominates basketball - more players = more talent = higher average skill of that region = domination
reason why EU good at football - same thing
reason why EU good at CS - same thing
same goes for any sport, grappling, tennis, table tennis or chess.
Now, the thing with China is that unlike the US, where the leagues are more individualistic, chinese atheletes are usually more humble, making it PERFECT for China to dominate sports for years due to its massive population.
with EDG already being the biggest spender in china, they will likely retain the roster no matter what, allowing them to get an ever better cohesion, even more time together and dominating even more. Which region will catch up to EDG first? China, because it scrims, praccs and competes with them on regular basis, then comes apac, and emea and americas only get them at international LANs.
teams like Trace and FPX, while practicing with EDg will only get better, rising their level as well. Now what happens if chinese teams dominate valorant?
Chinese generally start playing more valorant, giving it an even bigger talentpool.
for every huge talent americas will produce, china might have 5 of them due to how young and intergrated to the internet their society is

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Pras1mos

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I disagree in some points.
You are missing that the most important thing to generate the most dominating region, isnt population, its money (And culture, but we gonna not talk about this)

In case of football, Europe spend billions in football schools and teams, since young, they search talents in the whole world to put in their football sub-teams.
For CS, besides the investment in T2 and T3, Europe have the most majors, encouraging new players too follow their idols.
If China wins, besides the huge playerbase, the Chinese orgs will invest more in Valorant = A more dominating region.

And you said you was from cs right? Valorant is a momentum game, in a second you are god, in a second you are terrible.
(I can be wrong) Even if EDG wins, this dont mean that they are going to win again, the meta can change in less they a week, its rare too see teams be good in both seasons.

Besides that, i agree with you, W post.

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1st point China has plenty of money to spend on esports, there is a reason any game developer wastes so much time and effort making their game more appealing to the chinese market
2nd VCT China has probably the best infrastructure in place, and chinese orgs will be willing to spend money for sure
3rd despite the game being a momentum game, no matter what meta or playstyle is currently on top, having a great team cohesion with a built out staff will withhold 95% problems a team can possibly face

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GambleNats

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a bunch of teams withdrew from chinese ascension a big name being weibo (massive), the teams really big teams arent too impressed with franchasing

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Nef0r0

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because franchising is a flawed system :D

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GambleNats

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its great for teams in the franchised league, just the teams that arent

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Nef0r0

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tier 2 is a backbone for every game, no tier 2, no new talent = GG

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thats why riot are adding academy teams

continue thread →

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Pras1mos

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https://www.vlr.gg/post/4038557/leviatan-laugh-thread
https://www.vlr.gg/post/4038705/americas-laugh-thread

I came back here to ask again, my friends Americans, we will or we will not support BLG?

Gosh, even with SA, who have 0 beffs with Emea, they still trashtalk us, if Emea win, this things will be 20x more common.
If China wins, the only thing that will change, is that China will be more respected.

AMERICAS WITH BLG FOR A BETTER FUTURE

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You do realize the american posters are the worst when it comes to these kind of threads right? The european posts are merely a reaction to that retardation

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Pras1mos

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If was just for NA, i would be fine.
Now explain the Lev hate.
The two times they lost, who did this tread was Emea.

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KClaw

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Lol bro those threads are made cause the entire year I saw EMEA laugh threads so many times and also that u all were calling EMEA as memea all the time bro , the Lev hate is because they belong to Americas region , lol obviously I don't support any hate threads or laugh threads any region it may be but bro u gotta accept ur own faults as well man, should I also remind u how many of u all were making pacific laugh threads as well , and calling Shanghai a Mickey mouse cause GenG won lol , hypocrisy man

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Pras1mos

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"us"? There is no "us".

Point a laugh tread made by Argentina, or Chile, or Mexico? Do not exist.
Its not the same people, the same continent (Talking about geo) they do not even cheer for the same team.
If you want to trashtalk NA for revenge, go on.
But hating SA bc of NA, is like punching the cousin of you friend, bc you homie fighted with you.

hypocrisy

You talked about hypocrisy, but Emea is doing the exact same shit as NA, and worst, are targgeting people who isnt even related to NA, at this point, Emea is the agressor, not the victim.

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Bro making statements like if the TH winning will cause a WW3 LMAO 🤣😂

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I'm a fan of both Heretics and EDG so whoever wins is fine to me. I think EDG winning would be a better story because of a certain shit talking IGL

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nah bro, Team Heretics journey deserves a happy ending

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Yepp

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Pras1mos

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Some IGL? Some IGLs.
If i remenber, have like 2 more igl trashtalking china.

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🐖

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i think if anyone has a half a functioning braincell, u just support who you want, and tell regional dick suckers to slap more dick. im an american, i like heretics more than all the na teams bc of the players, someone out there will always ride dick for something, if its regional drama in VALORANT then ur priorities are just wrong.

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Pras1mos

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How you acted rude first, ima be a little rude too.
If you wasnt semi-illiterate bc of lack of literature, you would know i said that is ok to cheer for TH.

still are going to support TH, ok, i respect that

I am talking about the sub consequences if TH wins, but if someone wants to support the TEAM is ok.

Go back to school to learn about you own language.

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consequences like there's gonna be a war. vlr will just be vlr and remain the same

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Pras1mos

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Yeah, thats why is SUB consequences.

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kirrans

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i don't even know what that means icl 👻

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KClaw

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Dude how is EMEA toxic this like atleast this year they haven't been the same toxic , and it's mostly u all saying EMEA as memea lmao

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kapteN

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Good attitude my guy. Enjoy the finals tomorrow!

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Warlordwibz

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to any americas bored no representation in the grand final needing entertainments.
watch ardiis stream -> support china -> become CN fans.

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Clucker

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In my mind, regardless of who wins, this trophy will not count. Such an obvious bait from riot to rake in the chinese cash.

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BEHEMOTH

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Sentiluls and gay hentai watcher Tenz didn't win the event: Automatic mickey mouse trophy
--least biased Sentilul dickrider

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KClaw

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Lmao u all Americans actually shit on EMEA a lot and also on china like hella lot and now as they are out u r talking about supporting EDG and china as a region when majority of u all were saying all year round that why is china getting so many slots in internationals talk about hypocrisy bro, now that ur teams are defeated u trynna act humble