Leo vs Sacy | VLR.gg

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Who is better?

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Zaphkiel

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Leo wtf (no disrespect to sacy he's up there with the greatest)

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Rb

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laeDLaer

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leo its not even a debate.

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eszett

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only one has champions and masters

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Farambe

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Ah yes the champions and masters awards which are awarded only to SINGLE players in a FIVE VS FIVE Video Game, for sure whoever won those INDIVIDUAL Awards is the best.

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eszett

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seethe lil bud

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf

yeah...

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Farambe

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https://www.vlr.gg/295610/loud-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-opening-b/?game=153737&tab=overview

yeah...

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nihso

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what

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M7mdA13

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wdym yeah?? flash init isn't sacy's comfort role lol. He's literally top fragging the map after that one. I believe Leo is better but don't cherry pick bad maps lol

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his 2nd most played agent is literally skye

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teilwal

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theres a reason bro can only show the first map

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Irrelevant match

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humble_y0y_10k

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Leo by far

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Swxtchrr

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Leo is way more consistent imo. Sacy has had a higher peak but over time his average is definitely lower than Leo's

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This is the best answer here

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Is that true? The peak of Sacy was dropping 201 ACS against OpTic while Leo averaged 210 ACS in 2023 over the course of all 3 internationals.

Based on util leo always seemed to be the best initiator in the world at almost any given day

Mechanically leo is above Sacy

And when leo encountered Sacy (only once, in LOCK//IN), Leo was 8-6 in duels

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Swxtchrr

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Yet Sacy is still the more decorated player.

Of course, Leo is mechanically and fundamentally a better player, but Sacy has proven that he can be a kingpin for his team in high pressure situations and matches multiple times.

Like I said, Sacy's peak was higher, in terms of value and achievements but Leo is more consistent overall

All this talk of "Champions Sacy" seems to really raise peoples expectations. That being said we have some insane fragging initiators in top teams at the moment and I'd love to see Sacy reach that level again.

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Leos peak was dropping 300+ ACS on Sova/Fade back to back against the former world champions in his first grand final appearance.

Sure Sacy has a champs trophy to his name and could even get a second one which makes him miles above leo in terms of achievements but saying Sacy had a higher peak than Leo is invalid imo.

But iirc correctly Sacy was a second caller on LOUD so in terms of such, (organization, teamplay etc) he is above leo, but pure mechanical abilities and util usage leo is so clear of Sacy.

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valkin

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based

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zappp

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🦁

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Average_NA_fan

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s0cy is dogshit but he clears le0

flukenatic is the most overrated team ever

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humble_y0y_10k

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Average NA fan fr

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RzqoFoxie

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Leo hands down...

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velocity05

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who has the champs?

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OneTapDesign

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it's a team game. There's no comparing the two as individual players, as Leo is WAY better than sacy. You'd be delusional to think otherwise.

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf

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C0nfedant

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Who has mvp

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Aayan

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biased but Leo

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shzuo

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I love Sacy but Leo bro...

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thiagomds

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Sacy was the MVP in the champions GF, so it's obvious that Leo is better right now.

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2bored

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aspas was mvp in the gf lol

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BalkanSigma78

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both are sagittarius

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FELLER

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but sacy has better chance to get another trophy

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shrike-

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leo is better, sacy is greater

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saberMH

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i think even sentards can agree leo is much better. No disrespect to my bald goat tho

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C0nfedant

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Leo is the best player in fnc even when he doesnt play

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aspassonjiezounb

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ofc leo

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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Leo is a baiter but still better than sacy, saccy is a mid player
Leo has an International MVP title
sacccy = zero

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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He wasn't the MVP, pancada was the real MVP
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Pretty much don't care. Bro was the Final MVP

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https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Still don't care. Some lose will never change the fact bro won Champions and was the Finals MVP

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localkoolkid

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some things will never change, like how Leo > Sacy

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Welp. Read #31

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localkoolkid

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was gonna debate until I saw the name, we don't got beef no more

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Zehahahaha

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Sacy is Greater
Leo is Better

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Denjisideals

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Leo is a better player
Sacy just has a greater legacy and a bald head.

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Asunas_Chinese_Teacher

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Leo has a disadvantage, he gets pregnant when his team needs him. So sacy better.

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KITTT

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don´t think sacy will ever get the respect he deserves

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envyz

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Leo but Sacy this tournament has been really good

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catNmouse

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in terms of consistent firepower easily leo, in terms of ceiling probably sacy

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2bored

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ppl discrediting sacys team achievements are the same ppl who puts Chronicle above aspas in the goat convo due to his team achievements even though aspas being machanically better and more consistent throughtout his debut

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Prontera

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Thats emea for u. They will keep bring up trophies on any conversation

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Yuh_aye

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Such a shame Sacy not getting his respect, and might never. The last round we saw him (at the time of writing) is the perfect example why. Perfect fade seize that completely counters Fnatic's only chance for the round - winning the heaven fight, - gifting zekken an ez 2k, winning the round and game.

But people won't remember it because it won't be recorded under ACS, Rating, or +/-. But it will win you championships, something Leo couldn't do because he got gapped twice by Sacy's replacement.

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babysasuke

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Leo not even playing 😭😭😭 2 Mickey Mouse tournament wonder and you want to put him in top 20 all time talks 😭😭😭

Didn’t even carry in those like demon1 and you would never call him the GOAT 😭😭😭