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The live crowd problem

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#1
SolarX

Live crowds this year have been absolute dogshit at international events.
Masters Madrid, Sentinels fans flooded the venue and ruined every good play made by teams against them.
Masters Shanghai, the crowd literally rooted against GENG the whole tournament and for Chinese teams for their entire duration in the bracket. (5 days.) Everyone else got pattycake cheers.
Now, in comes Champions Seoul, the biggest event of the year, will the problem be fixed?
Probably NOT.
Why?
Because so far, Sentinels look likely to qualify despite them being mid as fuck after Kickoff. Not to mention Fnatic also prone to qualifying. (The stupidity of the championship points system can be its own thread)
Both of these teams are by far the worst offenders for having the most toxic fanbase. You can argue that other teams have this problem; (For example, 100T.) however, said fanbases come nowhere near the level of toxicity they show towards their own team. These "fans" are literally just bipolar wrecks that find the smallest "mistakes" to point out (Which, most of the time, aren't actually mistakes.) when their team loses, and whenever their team wins they just glaze the fuck out of whoever had the most flashy play that round from their team.
Not only does this lead to many sick plays having crowd reactions like: "...", it also makes the online live chat utterly unusable due to how many visceral nincompoops spam the chat with unrelated garbage, or just flat out dumb shit. There are only so many times you can see "when does SEN play" and "[Insert player here] is so bad" before you wish that the chat mods would pull a 2022 VCT NA Challengers and just make the live chat emote only. Just look at yesterday's match, SEN vs 100T, and tell me the crowd wasn't dogshit.
TL:DR, The crowds & live chat for the whole 2024 VCT are absolutely botched due to toxic cringe SEN and Fnatic "fans"

I would've put LOUD in here but they haven't made jack shit soooo

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cohnr
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allat

#4
SolarX
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yes

#3
lolli
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why

#5
brycered7
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and then SEN plays and it’s just “HAHAHAH SEN” on round losses and “SEN HATERS QUIET” on round wins 😭

#6
simo98
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Rawr

#7
sideshowsbaldhead
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if you read twitch chat you should probably be studied

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SolarX
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nobody who values their sanity looks at vct twitch chat anymore ngl

#9
KoroVLR
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okay

#10
cloudberry
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Don't worry, the only LOUD fans left (mostly) are the ones who genuinely want the team to succeed

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ascention
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yap fest I'm glad SEN fans show up to support their team, it's awesome. Keep it up ya'll.

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SolarX
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the SEN/FNATIC fans that aren't toxic are good. most of them aren't tho, thats the main reason why i made this post

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ascention
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What would you suggest to fix the problem?

#12
DuD5K1S
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  1. there wasn't a single disrespectful sen fan when I attended masters madrid finals, and the spanish crowd cheered for Gen.G round wins.
  2. oo aa ee
    get offline, talk to another human being, and stop pretending that everyone believes the same thing as you because you saw 2 other people say something similar
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SolarX
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  1. your point consists of one event that isnt even the main focus of my post
  2. there are multiple instances in madrid when the sen crowd gave away a play from the enemy
  3. THE SPANISH CROWD. not the SEN fans huh?
  4. my shanghai point still stands
  5. i've already done #2
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DuD5K1S
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I only speak on topics that I have knowledge about.
Also are you upset that the live crowds are bad (which is the main point of your post) or that sen fans are bad?
As for Shanghai, its crowd was tainted for reasons outside of the video game

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SolarX
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2024 live crowds and sen fans (most of them anyways) suck.
I'm familiar with the GENG vs China drama, im not clueless.

#23
DuD5K1S
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So is your main argument that you don't like how biased the crowds are?
You want the crowds to be less passionate?

#13
Zeron
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honestly I just accepted it

#16
Prasinos
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The problem has name, kids, enzos.

Loud for example, the org, has a big number of kids, thats why was so toxic.
Same as Sentinels, just kids.

#17
valkin
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????????????? having a biased crowd is cool as fuck your so miserable holy fuck

#19
SolarX
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having a biased crowd is the complete opposite of cool if you are rooting for neither team (which is normally the case in global events). It's only cool if you are rooting for the team that the crowd is rooting against and said team is beating the other teams ass.

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valkin
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seeing the whole crowd be quite as fuck when geng won shanghai was cool as shit, same with seeing sen and eg win their events with the crowd backing them

you will always have biased crowds in esports quit being a little bitch and move on

#24
Hades_Loves_Rb
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please watch ANY other sport game (soccer/football/basketball etc) understand this is a common part of sport culture and it will never change-and that it is HEALTHY for the scene.

If you still cant handle it go back and watch 2021-first half of 2022 games where there was no crowd because of covid

#25
Serath
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There will always be biased crowds depending on where the event and what people attend it. Stop complaining over something no one can change.

#27
chrlxz
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yeah is this guy retarded? 'chinese crowd rooted for chinese team omggggggg'

#26
shrike-
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i mean if you have a clouted team and/or a team playing in their home country, you're going to have bias regardless. i wouldn't blame anyone in the audience for rooting for the team they like/are the same nationality as

also no one takes twitch chat seriously

#28
DuD5K1S
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the fact that this guy reads twitch chat in vct matches shows enough, idk why i started arguing with this guy

#29
Pyr0t
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this is just part of live "sporting events" in general and adds to much of the storylines in a way that many find appealing. even if this was a problem, I don't think it's something that can be fixed.

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