the fucking tate brothers are in the thread https://twitter.com/TaylorMorganS_/status/1789927866865787228
i dont like riot but i just dont get what people expect them to do in these kinda situations
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True, but if the consequence of HW bans deter someone from certain actions, potentially causing them to rethink the potential harm caused, then why not implement that form of deterrence?
Saying what did she expect is capitulating to a mindset that this behaviour has any place within the game. The number of incels allowed in these spaces should go down, which in turn creates a gaming culture that doesn't generate or encourage new young men to mimic these behviours.
zawsze jak widzę BringMeTheHorizon tow iem że opinia będzie hujowa :)
typcia chce zeby typ dostał bana za to ze mówili że chce ją zgwałcić, tak ona może go zmutować ale to nie zmienia tego że ktoś powiedział że ją zgwałci i tego że powie to dziesiątkom kolejnych kobiet. Nie rozumiem jaki jest sens bronienia gracza o takiej postawie.
bro i saw the tweet have 3k now its at 60k likes holy shit. Anyways it seems like we always get tweets like this where man says nasty shit to woman in valorant im curious as to what happens to the players, because eventually everyone will forget about this woman and her experience.
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some riot emply replied:
Taylor, I'm so sorry you had to experience this. We’re taking actions against this account, but I also know that’s not enough. Our teams are always working on our behavior tools, but we have room to improve…and we will. I know we’ve never met—I hope we can fix that at some point—and you don’t have any reason to believe me, but I promise this means a lot to us and is a big priority.
its the valorant community's fault tbh, riot made the game so easy and appealing to newbies that we now have a community filled with edaters and lovey-dovey type shit, this girl wouldn't last a day in cs, not because she'd meet a racist/sexist on day 1 but that she wouldn't be able to move her mouse around and do stuff lmao
thank god i made the switch
The number of people who are in her comments blaming her for men being disgusting on the in game vc is shameful. Yeah you can just mute and move on but that man is going to do that to the next woman who has vc on in their games and talks. Are we just going to ignore that? That's like letting a murderer go free and telling people to just avoid going near the person if they see them. What is wrong with the gaming community, and men in general??? As a man, I'm ashamed.
She probably could have kept him muted, but as a woman who streams and has a platform for which she can call this bad behaviour out, she probably felt obligated to speak out and I don't blame her for unmuting, recording and calling out the trashy behaviour online. That guy will just go into their next game and do the same thing if pressure isn't applied against the behaviour wherever it is seen. She most likely unmuted to document the behaviour and to make a tweet calling it out.
And I think its more important to emphasise why he felt it was fine to say that online over a video game, when I know that 9 times out of 10, he would never say that irl without getting severe backlash. It goes to show how this behaviour is pretty much deemed acceptable by everyone else in the community, and it really shouldn't.
i mean i got muted for saying "fuck your mother" instantly and comp banned for like a day
rito is already invasive enough, what the fuck does she want them to do?
hardware ban people instead of muting them?
how would you even create a hierarchy of punishment for chat offenses like
1: sexism = hardware ban
2: racism = week ban
3: homophobia = 5 day ban
4: fuck your mother hope you die in a fucking ditch = 3 day ban?
I agree it's hard to regulate this, but I feel that this is not even a problem "how should we ban people who abuse voice chats". To me, its a reflection of how we feel comfortable saying things like this on voice chats over a game. I don't have a solution to this behaviour, and I'm sure riot is searching for one without being too extreme. But I'm way more concerned by the reactions to this behaviour. As I said in a comment below, it's sad to see how so many people are blaming her for unmuting and forgetting that this man felt it was appropriate to threaten her with rape over a video game. If there was more social pressure, and we collectively called out and rejected bad behaviour like this, people like the man would really not feel brave enough to say this shit on voice chat in a game.
I would just like to say, if you have criticism for a teammate, no matter who they are, I'm not saying you don't have to say it. I was playing valorant yesterday and I had to call out annoying teammates every game i played, including one who was a female. I did not even mention her gender, let alone talk about raping her. The gaming community actually attracts some really disgusting people, and we are all influenced and made to think this behaviour is normal and acceptable by the echo chamber we find ourselves in, where men support other men unconditionally, while silencing women for the crime of calling out bad behaviour. The comments here and on the tweet proves this clear as day.
I think riots system is OK, but I am more horrified by the reactions to the behaviour. Its not just riots job to uphold safety for everyone in the game. Sadly, people like you and I are not fulfilling our responsibilities to protecting those whose voice is not heard. It is widely known that women are really not respected in the gaming community. Like, go look at the comments! Do men get threatened with rape in valorant? And do you think its the same as threatening a woman with rape (which is actually a real, severe issue in the world today)? I don't think so. Men think they are ultimately superior to women in general, and this is why this behaviour is not the same as men being toxic to each other on a video game like valorant. You can deny it all you want, but it's the truth and it's right in front of us. And this behaviour is accepted, or it is not denounced and vehemently rejected by all of us, and that is a problem.
And why do we accept that?? You can call me a snowflake, but I don't think that behaviour should be seen anywhere, whether it is online or in real life. Just like if we saw behaviour like this in real life, I would hope and imagine that people would be horrified to see a man threatening to rape a woman in public. So why is that OK on a video game?? I must be going crazy because this shouldn't be a hot take, or there's something wrong with me! I wasn't raised to think that it's OK for me to treat anyone this way, let alone saying vile things like this to a woman in any situation.
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