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Valorant Goat Candidates

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#1
HenBabyH

These are some of the players who have a strong argument for the GOAT title:

Aspas (1x champion, best player on that Loud roster)
Tenz (2x master winner, 1 mvp)
Chronicle (3x master winner, been to 4 international finals)
Less (1x champion, 1 mvp)
Carpe (2020 OWL Role Star)
Forsaken (3x international final appearance)
Saadhak (igl for the most accomplished org)
cNed (1x champion)

#2
iluckilyVA
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It is Aspas.

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number2_cNed_fan
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true 👍

#3
Average_NA_fan
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blud snuck in t0nz

#4
Tryeue2
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termi not mentioned shit list

#5
HenBabyH
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termi is ruining Mako’s prime

#30
Tryeue2
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mako is always in his prime tf u on about

#33
HenBabyH
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he’s gonna be 60 by the time Termi figures out what the hell he is doing

#36
Tryeue2
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termi is doing well with the new roster tho? yall hate on him so much for no reason at all since we know that he is a good coach who had one bad year(2023-they still did decent but they did not meet expectations)

#38
HenBabyH
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Are we watching the same game, this team has the firepower but has continually failed to get past 4th place

#44
Tryeue2
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which coach do you think will push them over the line then?

#45
Tryeue2
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this is a choking problem and i think drx can win something this year since their map pool is good

#65
HenBabyH
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good point, I’m just upset with the team as a whole I guess

#69
Tryeue2
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ive been very frustrated with the decisions the team's management has made i think however they have struck gold this time and i think with some slight refinement this team will be golden

#40
HenBabyH
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#50
Tryeue2
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no way you ping me and then ghost me lmfao

#61
HenBabyH
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i accidentally sent a message twice, so i just edited it to that

#62
Tryeue2
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lol ight

#6
Syr0m
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ASPAS

#7
Sir_Johnny123
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Chronicle is the most decorated player.

#9
HenBabyH
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Chronicle doesn’t hold a candle to the other players on this list when it comes to actual talent

#17
Sir_Johnny123
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Goat title is very subjective. Mechanically he is not but you included all the trophy wins next to the name. So with the infomation you supplied it is hinting Chronicle is the goat.

As an individual overall Player. It is Aspas

#21
HenBabyH
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you need to find the right balance between team success vs individual success, and i think Aspas has that perfect balance

#29
sn4ke_gg
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Sacy won the most important trophies of VCT, so by that logic he is the Goat

nah, Goat is always the best and most consistent player, and that is Aspas

A example is S1mple, he’s not the player that won most titles but he is the most consistent player that’s why he is considered the Goat of CS

#37
Sir_Johnny123
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Doesn't change the fact Chronicle is the only pro with 3 international trophies to his name

The average person only considers fraggers as Goats. Aspas is very deserving to that title i agree but i also weigh up the fact of support players.

#43
sn4ke_gg
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Even if he has 3 international trophies, he doesn’t have the main one, so even if we considered that argument to say who is the goat, he still wouldn’t be.

#47
Sir_Johnny123
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Lock-in was harder than champs.
30 international Team > 12

Shouldn't have choked an 11-3 lead

#72
Bald_man
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surely he could've won a easier tournamet "champions" then

instead of losing twice to loud

#78
Liem
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no way bro said lock in was harder than champs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

#8
Gutssz
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add Alfajer, nAts and yay

#11
HenBabyH
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y0y 🤣🤣🤣 fns carried that briber

#10
n1cf
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no cned = bad list

#12
Gutssz
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olm sana bısı dıcem

#19
n1cf
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bısı de bana

#23
Gutssz
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vlr supportuyla konustum hesaba gıremıyordum sonra 2-3 bişi yazdım anlamadılar kara listeye alındım sanırım banlarlar beni yakında gorusurz, bu bir veda mesajıdır

#25
n1cf
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dhsasdgkşdsashgkaslş oyle bisi olsa coktan banlamislardi oglum bisi olmazke

#28
Gutssz
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yok işin şakasındayım zaten ama geçmişte 14 günlük banlarım falan var racism ve ayrımcılıktan dolayı ksdfks (haketmedim o banları ztn)

#46
south_america_best_region
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no entendí nada pero estoy de acuerdo 🤝

#15
HenBabyH
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fixed it, did cNed win mvp?

#13
Psion
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its still saadhak and its not particularly close

#14
dort
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why is tenz on this list

#56
h9zard
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right, disrespectful to have him on the candidates list. he is undisputed.

#16
Fayt
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You forgot that aspas won the first americas league last year.

#18
HenBabyH
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nobody cares about regional tournaments

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Fayt
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I care, doesnt matter for you but it was a accomplishment because its was an union of regions and it was the first ever.

#20
phm04
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It can only be aspas

#22
Eternal078
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my goat y0y should be on this list lmao

#24
sn4ke_gg
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There’s no GOAT candidates, currently there’s only one and it is Aspas

#26
Vexlic
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Obviously Chronicle

He plays multiple characters at a peak level regardless of the team he's in and actually has achievements

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HenBabyH
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chr0nicle

#27
Visuals
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its forsaken

#32
teilwal
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Since when did Less get the mvp???

#35
HenBabyH
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he won the champions mvp, i’m pretty sure

#41
teilwal
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https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics#MVP_of_Each_Event

also when did f0rsaken get another finals appearance

#48
HenBabyH
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let’s not get bogged down on the details

#34
StutterSt3p
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I mean aspas is the best player or like the GOAT of VCT, but the GOAT of Valorant as a game is TenZ.

#42
Hyssopus1
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1 tournament performance when everyone was bad=GOAT OF VAL?
if so donk is the GOAT of CS as a whole, he put numbers that anyone never did against the most historical figures in the game in 1 tournament just like tenz

#49
StutterSt3p
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It's really less to do with VCT and more to do with the fact that TenZ is what everyone thinks of when they think Valorant. He's the first radiant ever, first insane peformance ever, he's worked through bad teams and is still one of the best ITW.

aspas is a better player and he's the best VCT player we've ever seen fs, but he doesn't have nearly the same level of impact on the game as TenZ

#52
Hyssopus1
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i will be sincere with you i think you guys only have this tenz image in NA, because i can show you the opinions of tenz in brazil/latam and we just consider him just another player, his prime is already past, and back in 2023 we called him washed, nobody here thinks of valorant and thinks of tenz
And just to add to this sentinels 2023 with Zekken,marved,tenz,sacy,pancada this insane roster didnt make playoffs was absurd to us and we hated him alot at that time because this was a super team back then, you could say that marved wasnt a true IGL but those 5 players should atleast make playoffs and you know who was the worst player by far on that roster.

#54
StutterSt3p
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Yeah so maybe TenZ isn't as big in Brazil, but the point still stands. TenZ's influence goes beyond VCT, whereas I don't think aspas has as much influence in the Valorant community for those who don't watch VCT, except in maybe Brazil.

#55
Hyssopus1
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just see every single thread VLR makes on a LEV game and what streamers all around the world says about him, go to youtube and see what the videos about him says, you know what kind of influence aspas have and you know its not even close.

#60
StutterSt3p
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Again, most of that is for people who follow VCT a decent amount. I'm referring to the people who play the game and who barely, if at all, watch VCT. Like, average people who hop on the game for like 2 hrs with their friends.

#64
Hyssopus1
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well i can fix your sentence

"I mean aspas is the best player like the GOAT of VCT, but the most popular player of Valorant is TenZ."

#68
StutterSt3p
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Yeah, but phrasing it that why doesn't really highlight the impact he's had on the esport. He's obviously quite popular, but he also performed well in the esport and has returned to insane form, despite having a downturn in his career.

That's also something that's underrated about TenZ, he's gone through a lot as a player and as person, but he's continued to play, despite getting shitted on constantly by people who hate him because he's popular.

Again, I'm really not trying to downplay how good aspas is, but TenZ has drawn so much support to the esport, and tbh, he's probably the model player.

#70
Hyssopus1
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to what player he would be a model bro? he was only good in 2021 for 2 years he didnt win a single thing in VCT, to any pro back in 2022 in NA the GOAT was EL DIABLO, 2023 the GOAT in NA was demon1, now in 2024 he won a masters finally but he is now on the verge of not even making playoffs.
you can say he is the most popular person of all time but the word GOAT he is not fit to be called that, every single esport in the world only uses the word GOAT for the best player of all time regardless of fame.

#57
kaibe8
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you can't deny TenZ being by far the most widely known and liked valorant player around the world.
Even if latam people might care more for aspas...

#58
Hyssopus1
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watch a video of zellsis playing against aspas that will tell you enough about him

#81
kaibe8
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in what way is that related to popularity?

no one is arguing with the fact that aspas is probably the best player rn (and possibly of all time),but he is not the most famous one!

#82
Hyssopus1
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that was my argument the entire time

#39
Hyssopus1
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Aspas will be literally the s1mple of valorant, he will not be the player with the most titles and not the top 1 every year but he will keep this insane performance for many years and thats why he will be the GOAT.

#51
docmugi
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loud most accomplished org?

#66
frappzlul
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fnatic won 2 intls

#53
Nutzzz
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Oxy

#67
Syr0m
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nah

#59
fawning
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Aspas and is not even close lol tell me a player that goes +20 almost every match on franchising

#73
Hyssopus1
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.

#77
hunkkz
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Aspas also 3x international final appearance (Champions, Lock//in and Masters Reykjavic)

#83
cartixuzi
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tied between less and aspas for me

#84
spookmeister
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WARNING: 🗣️allat ‼️‼️
Personally id like to differentiate between GOAT (igl) and GOAT (player)
Goat (IGL) is a debate between FNS and saad, legit no other real argument. If you say boaster look at the man when he doesnt have mini coaching 💀

Goat (player) has a few options from ur list and 1 more
Aspas: consistently mechanically amazing, great placements in tournaments, great at his role, and great even when with different teams/different players. Really no need to go in depth
Yay: idgaf what you think of him, and even though he has fallen off recently, the OAT in goat means OF ALL TIME. Regardless of opinion it is simply the truth, the fact of the matter, that yay was HIM during the chamber era of valorant. During his peak it was nothing but absolute nukes of performances, only RARELY doing poorly or getting diffed, all over the period of a TON of matches since the team usually ran deep in tournaments
TenZ: Similar situation as Yay but with (surprisingly) less contrarians/haters. Also the added bonus of doing really well rn (even tho there was a big period of dog performances between now and the first masters win). Like yay, in his era, TenZ was him. simple as 👍. issue is that tenz era of goat tier performances, was a lot shorter than Yays or aspas’s

Less isnt an option YET i think, he needs a bit longer to cook imo idk. Def could be argued to be goat though in the future

Now i will reject other ones you listed as goat contenders:

cNed: low-key a fluke champs run, diet Yay (except neither of them have been on a diet i think), he wants to be nats so bad with his prism op, fell off HARD with jett nerf, and was never really THAT good with rifles/pistols/jett knives, good sure but nowhere near yay tenz or aspas in their primes.
Chronicle: good, consistent, multiple nationals wins, yes, good util, yes, smartish player, yes, but never stand-out performances, never hard carry like yay/tenz/aspas (or even Less), just good, maybe great, but not goat. Just does his job consistently at an above average level, but, never more than that
Forsaken: kinda like chronicle but better aim and flashier but slightly “dumber” (riskier) but thats also just apac. Tbh maybe all he needs is one or two international lan wins
Carp 💀

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