top 5 in each role(at their peak)

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Lucrix

im probably forgetting a lot of people and im sorry in advance to the people i piss off. you can tell me who you think should be here in the comments
im not counting chamber as a sentinel cuz we all know that mf was NOT like kj or cypher. im putting chamber as a duelist cuz y0y

THIS IS IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER BTW

duelists

yay(you're braindead if you think he wasn't the goat in 2022)
aspas
demon1
zmjjkk(shut up. im so bias idgaf)
zekken
HM: 2021 tenz. im not including him on this list cuz lets be real, 2021 was just run around with no plan, cned, jinggg, derke

controllers

mako
pancada
marved
mindfreak
Chichoo(womp womp im bias)
HM: karon(might be a bit too early to say he's top 5, but im bias cuz i love geng)

Sentinel

Less(i didnt put less as top 5 controller bc he plays viper like a sentinel more than a controller. im def open to switching chichoo and less and putting chichoo under sentinel tho)
K1ng
nats(ik i didnt put tenz for his 2021 performance, but to me nats was the first GOOD sentinel. imo he paved the way for more sentinels and like less he plays viper like a sentinel)
alfajer
suygetsu
hm: johnqt, babyj/inspire

initiator(imo the hardest to rank bc there are so many good players)
also this is different from flex

crashies
leo
shao
stax
ethan
HM: d4v4i(def should prob be in top 5 i js dont know who to replace), nobody(my king), cauanzin, trent(ong 2022 trent hit dif)

flex. i lied. this is way harder to rank

smoggy
f0rsaken
chronicle
leaf(dude has to be on this list)
rb

hm:
zyppan, xeppa, tenz(i guess?), zellsis

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damn it man i spent like 10 minutes on this post at least say y0y or something😭

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preciate it me0wme0wk0tty

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Not having Keznit or Jinggg as HM is a bit silly but fair.

Also you put Chronicle twice but i get it

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Lucrix

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dude im so sorry how the fuck did i forget about them😭

tbh jing deserves to be top 5 but idk who to replace him with

also keznit is the goat but he's outshined by lack of placement yk?

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If i speak on who to replace you will end my life

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but my king kangkang is flashy and funny and amazing😭(insane glaze ik)

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at least glaze his gameplay 😭

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you want glaze? ill give you glaze

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shut up im so bias idgaf?

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i didnt realize i had chronicle twice my bad

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trent needs music to perform, tho i only agree he peaked on the regional matches, dont forget saya also peaked on the same time, holy fuck i need to watch tgrd 100t 13 0 again

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well when i think of trent i think of that insane 180 spray transfer on fracture, that crazy clip with him on sova on ascent with all the wallbangs, etc

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keznit instead of zekken

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Cringe 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

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shao n chichoo instead of 2024 tenz in controllers is criminal

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you're gonna kill me for saying this, but i js dont see tenz as a controller yet. yes he's only played controller and initiator, but when i think of tenz i think of jett. also at their peak, shao and chichoo were better imo.

i know fs im braindead and gonna get downvoted

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Dw fam. All that matters is, as Pu chan said, tenz is back to his second prime <3

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hot take RB deserve top3 flex

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horrible list

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Lucrix

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who're your top 5?

i know i def left out players that should be on here

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how is cned not in duelists, he was by far the best duelist player of 2021

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read hm. it's the same reason i didn't put cned(in addition to me forgetting about him cuz im so tired and in school)

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if you put kangkang there then cned also has to be there, only cned is close to kangkang skill with an awp

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thats fair actually. i'll put him in hm

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you have chronicle twice in flex list. I would suggest RB hes been one of the best for a very long time now.

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OH SHIT LMFAO MY BAD IM SO TIRED I DIDNT NOTICE

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Yh RB is literally top 3 Lol

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idk how i forgot him lmao

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Chronicle should be ranked 1st in flexes, Leo should be ranked 1st in initiators and alfajer should be 2nd on sentinels no way is johnqt anywhere close to alfajer he’s way too high also not having derke in duelists is actually criminal he clears zekken in his sleep he is also above zmjjkk and also demon1

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it's not in any specific order

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Flex:

Smoggy

😹😹😹😹
everyone knew it's always Chronicle, F0rsaken, RB at their peak

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read the third line

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better use (•) or (-) then 🤦‍♂️

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Replace Derke with Kangkang, Cauanzin with Trent, still too early for Johnqt. Agree with 2021. d4v41 should definitely be up there. Zellsis been playing for a long time, he approves to be with the top flex along with Forsaken and Chronicle.

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davai could be on flex or sentinel, before something join davai is the flex of PRX since f0rsaken still on duelist duty with Jinggg

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-kk im bias but ill add derke to hm

look at number 10 for my reason for having trent(also i js forgot about cauanzin)
-johnqt should def be replaced with k1ng imo. i js couldn't think of sentinels at the time lmao
-i was a big v1 fan so i def agree with zellsis being up there, but idk who to replace him with. maybe you could say leaf but it feels disrespectful to him cuz of how much he's had to do😭

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allat not reading the declaration of independence

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just say y0y

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ignoring the EDG placements which are all false, johnqt above nats/alfajer/suygetsu? I see a lot of delusional things on this website but this has gotta be the worst
and crashies above leo despite leo having far higher peaks and consistently better in every aspect?

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Read the third line

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You really fucking gave Hm to babyj LMAO

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He’s the goat of ascent fr

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Imo shao should be in the initiator one cause he was in his peak that time
He could be a top5 controller this year but its time for that

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alr fair. who would you replace him with? or js put him in hm

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As much as i like trent he didn't do anything internationally...

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ugh fair. does #10 change your mind or am i just delusional. also should cauanzin be top 5

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I mean yeah that spray transfer was fking nasty but if he achieve something this year he for sure will be top 5
And as of cauanzin he was insane at the start and at champs HM is ok ig

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yeah i replaced trent with shao

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Great list regardless

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oh crap i am braindead. would you consider shao a flex? idk why i didnt remember him for his sova and just remember seeing him on omen all the time

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bro what

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lemme cook trust

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based list , edg clears

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Not to be that guy, but yay was only good on duelist (jett) in 2021/22, and his higher peak was definitely on chamber since he's fantastic at holding angles and taking slow map control. In 2022 he played duelist only 10% of his games, I wouldn't count that as a "duelist". Also 2022 gameplay compared to now is nowhere near as good, it's definitely not as bad as 2021 tho (btw this is not me saying tenz deserves a spot, he's my pookie but hell no). No hate to yay I'm actually one of the few ppl who would love to see him succeed again. W list otherwise.

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nah ik i meant to say that i was counting chamber as a duelist idfk why i didnt add that. if its purely duelist yay doesn't deserve to be on this list, but i was including him for his chamber

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List lost all credibility when this guy put y0y in number one.

Aspas was still the best duelist when this noob was abusing pre-nerf Jett mechanics and Chamber. 3 year old Aspas clears Jacob "Focus on your own site" y0y

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READ THE THIRD LINE THAT IS IN ALL CAPS😭. I wasn't putting them in any specific order or else why the fuck would i have smoggy over f0rsaken

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Then why did you do numbered rankings instead of bullet points like

y0y
y0y
y0y

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Lucrix

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cuz i like numbers😕

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No one else was playing pre nerf chamber and Jett it was just yay. Lay off the cocaine please

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Because no one was shameful enough to abuse Chamber to that degree. And we all know that FNS made y0y. Look at the state of that fool without him.

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If you think that you are truly hopeless. Please get a lobotomy and spare the rest of us

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As always, I stand corrected.

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obv people were playing pre nerf chamber and pre nerf jett, i just think that of the people that used those agents, yay is the only one who can contest with the other players on the list who DIDN'T use the pre nerf agents

edit: oops i thought you were replying to me

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Yay rarely played jett during that year on every map he played chamber during their instanbul run and in Reykyavik

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read the second line. im counting chamber as a duelist

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yet he wasnt played like one, he was used as a killing machine you are correct, but he was also played as hard anchor not entry.

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he wasn't entrying on attack? i feel like ive seen him entry many times as chamber on bind

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Victor was playing Raze? he was lurking on every map.

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You've got shao as both controller and initiator? Also I feel mindfreak deserves a spot in controller

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im ngl, i meant to remove shao from controller

also mindfreak is def going there. i feel like i can never remember who plays what on prx cuz they're all so diverse lmao

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YAY? dawg he peaked in 2022 playing chamber a sentinel, he played jett in 2021 but Envy weren’t insane

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READ THE SECOND FUCKING LINE JESUS.

it's not you specifically but this is like the 5th time ive had to reply with this

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Envy were a top 3 team in the world in 2021. Does everyone get high before coming on this site

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THIS MF REALLY SAID Y0Y 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nobody could be top 10 if he fixes his gamesense, bro plays initiator like he can revive himself all the time.

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nobody true goat thanks for recognizing that.

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crazy mechanics, lurks a lot on skye and sometimes braindead, but has insane potential

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yep his aim/mechanics is pretty crack literally why he's still on edg. Game sense / game iq is kinda braindead though lol. That's why he has those games where he's solo carrying and games where he get read so hard he's useless.

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yeah lmfao, one game on fracture the guy was just solo lurking every round and getting shot in the back/side

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i think of the split game vs giants where nobody was pulling multiple 1v3s, 1v4s in overtime. shit was insane but its sad that he hasnt hit that peak again since then.

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wtf is this hahahahahha
Crashies over those EMEA initiators got me dead same with K1ng for sentinel

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read the third fucking line

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y1y*

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BabyJ snuck in. Woahhh

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peak 2021, which im not counting+READ THE 3RD FUCKING LINE

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This is pretty bad(no offence)

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What’s wrong with it? I want feedback

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No Tenz on duelist is pretty cope considering he still has the highest acs of all time on a lan

Chichoo on smokes over TenZ/karon

Why is k1ng on here? Why is he so high? Johnqt/boostio >>>

No Sacy???? Sacy has a higher peak then Crashies

I don’t even wanna talk about the flex one, smoggy has a case for top 5 but get leaf the fuck out of here, imo it is

f0rsaken
Chronicle
N4rrate
Rb
Tenz if u consider him a flex not a smokes player, otherwise just add Zellsis

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i put tenz in hm, and i gave my reasoning for it
if you read the third line, it's not in any specific order
k1ng is there because he's always put up insane numbers on sentinel and you're high if you think he isn't top 5. johnqt's peak is not better than the other top 5's. he's great, just not top 5 yet. same for boostio
sacy i didn't watch enough of during 2022 so i can't really put him in top 5. my reasoning for crashies is he always has good util, and he was always nice in a clutch. stupid reasoning ik
my reasoning for leaf is dude went from perma jett, to initiator/sentinel, to jett and raze, and now back to sentinel. all while putting up great numbers
i haven't really watched much kc so idk how good n4rrates util usage is. his aim is just insane
if you look at my hm i have tenz and zellsis

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MAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKOMAKO

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Yes

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i get brainrot whenever i see mako mentioned in a thread.

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duelists

Myth (you're braindead if you think he wasn't the goat in 2022)
Calypso
Minte
Sh1rpie (shut up. im so bias idgaf)
Khayso
HM: 2021 tenz. im not including him on this list cuz lets be real, 2021 was just run around with no plan, cned, jinggg, derke

controllers

Okoretro
Solialiranes
DirMert
OkAlmond
Coorts
(womp womp im bias)
HM: karon(might be a bit too early to say he's top 5, but im bias cuz i love geng)

Sentinel

Rossi (i didnt put less as top 5 controller bc he plays viper like a sentinel more than a controller. im def open to switching chichoo and less and putting chichoo under sentinel tho)
Rome
Muadip (ik i didnt put tenz for his 2021 performance, but to me nats was the first GOOD sentinel. imo he paved the way for more sentinels and like less he plays viper like a sentinel)
Pome
K1rya
hm: johnqt, babyj/inspire

initiator(imo the hardest to rank bc there are so many good players)
also this is different from flex

Goudas
Kirito
Etem
Squ1key
Aether
HM: d4v4i(def should prob be in top 5 i js dont know who to replace), nobody(my king), cauanzin, trent(ong 2022 trent hit dif)

flex. i lied. this is way harder to rank

backoxy
Aether
Solialiranes
Patuj
Cycl0

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agreed

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Crazy that I’m not duelist/flex after that club and SE performance

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This list is ok but feels like it was based on what u could recall at time of making it. Few things -

Sacy as initiator in 2022, many people thought he was Loud's at times that year.
Jawgemo as duelist or flex for 2023. Demon1 was so fixated on because of personality but look at the stats it was jawg running in first and getting like a million first fights and OFTEN had higher ACS but less rating because rating is weighted against hard entries.
Something or f0rsaken need to be in duelist. PRX have experienced success through the years and were most successful with double duelist when F0rsaken was their jett or when something was so at at least one needs to be in the top duelists spot or HM. I see jinggg in HM but no PRX duelist in the top 5 is criminal (literally placed 2nd in an international lan twice).
Crashies being in initiator just because of team success in 2022 is fine but I disagree with it.
Ardiis and Derke should both be in there somewhere, probably.

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i didn't watch enough of sacy in 2022 to put him up there. based off the sacy ik now, he's a good player, but nowhere near top 5, yk?
jawg i did overlook which is my bad. he's def an amazing player, and i put demon1 cuz he's a flashy player which i like
something im honestly not convinced. I know how insane that sounds but i need to see more from him. he's insanely good, i just dont think he's good enough to replace any of the top 5. f0rsaken has played so many agents i put him in flex and he is def the best flex itw lmfao. i see the prx players as 5 flex players bc of how many dif agents they play so i can never decide where to put them
my reasoning for crashies is he always has good util, and he was always nice in a clutch. stupid reasoning ik
ardiis idk how to feel about. i didnt watch much of him in 2022 besides that one match against drx so i can't really justifiably put him in the top 5. derke i put in hm

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Seeing trent in top5 convo is laughable lol dude hasn't hasn't come close to being good in a international tournament and we talking about top 5

Also like if u wanna be biased just like kiss a photo of them what's the point of doing a list like this if it is openly biased I don't get it

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did you see my reasoning for trent?

also it's my list, ofc i'll be bias lmao

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this list is so ass

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whats wrong with it?

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no sacy with 2 event wins is something

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Trent diffs him for sure

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tenz and cned peak hit different

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true, but it was 2021 and if we're being honest, 2021 was bad. they were both insane, but given the competition and how much better the game has gotten, i can't really justify putting them over the others

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Yay was on sentinel no?

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read the second line

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i feel like it could be easier to rank top 5 players by in gane role, not by agent role. ex. IGL, Flex, anchor, entry, etc...

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probably, but i'd have trouble remembering who does what if i tried to make it lmao

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Fair list, thanks for engaging in good faith!

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thanks!

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sacy in initiator, jingg in duelist

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sacy ive stated my reasons for in 114 and other ones, jingg i have hm cuz idk who to replace him with

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sacy prime was 2021

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never watched him in 2021+im not counting 2021 performances

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yay played duelist once in 2022

Derke should still be top 5, despite being overshadowed by Leo and alfa last year, he still put up better numbers than zekken did(up to this point)

Alfajer should be 2nd

Crashies was never the best player on Optic or NRG

While Leo is/was the best on fnatic 2023,
If we’re going off peak(in comparison to competition) nats should be 1st as well as chronical, ppl talk about tenz back in 2021 but these gambit mfs were putting up the highest acs in the tournament while playing initiator

While RB is probably one of the most flexible player, he isn’t good enough to be considered top 5

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read the second line
derke put up better numbers than madrid zekken?
READ THE THIRD FUCKING LINE
never said he was the best on optic or nrg, im saying he was the best in his role
gambit was 2021, and if you read duelist hms, it says im not counting 2021
im ranking these based of util usage so i would consider him top 5