NRG looked not as good given the amount of vods on SEN.. is chet a fraud without FNS?? Was FNS the main factor/contributor for NRG success?
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Is chet good enough without FNS?
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Why is everyone on NRG's ass, ik they didn't perform upto their ceiling, but guess what, SEN on paper was also s tier team last year. Give them time.
People should be empathetic towards each other or else this hate cycle ain't gonna end soon. SEN and TenZ were literally bullied online last year. Don't wanna see this happen with Demon1
SEN and TenZ were literally bullied online last year
yeah he was shit. are we pretending like the current sen and the current role tenz is playing aren't completely different from last year? SEN on paper was good but they were shit. this sen is a different team... the only way SEN from last year is relevant is if you're trying to say current NRG are like sen from last year (which would mean they're shit)
I didn't see any other teams getting the shit that TenZ did just because they came 6th Or 7th. Let's not pretend that these players don't carry a heavy burden of fans more than others, which implies it doesn't make it alright to hate them day n night. The match is over. Get up and move on. It's time to get back up.
I disagree, most of these teams received hate due to how they were playing (GE sucked, DSG sucked, DRX didn't improve, and 100T underperformed massively). TenZ received hate for... Having an infected finger? His fiance having cancer? Playing poorly on a roster that received countless roster changes? The only other player specifically I could see receiving that amount of hate was ardiis within his tenure on NRG. You can say I live in a bubble all you want but at the end of the day you have to understand how it is fundamentally different to be hated for your gameplay than it is to be hated for the unfortunate things that happen in your life right?
TenZ received hate for... Having an infected finger? His fiance having cancer? Playing poorly on a roster that received countless roster changes?
other teams perform poorly and get flamed: "yeah its ok they got flamed because they played poorly"
Tenz plays poorly and gets flamed: "its not his fault theyre mad about his wife and finger its not his fault its all his teamates dont anybody please blame my tenzy wenzy its not his fault nooooooo its not his fault"
the level of delusion required to think this is incredible.
The only other player specifically I could see receiving that amount of hate was ardiis within his tenure on NRG.
ardiis skrossi angel asuna cryo yay hell even hiko and FNS back in the early days. you must not watch valorant...........
You can say I live in a bubble all you want but at the end of the day you have to understand how it is fundamentally different to be hated for your gameplay than it is to be hated for the unfortunate things that happen in your life right?
you said earlier people were flaming tenz for playing bad but it wasnt his fault. so which is it? you cant have your cake and eat it too either he did play bad or he didnt. people flamed tenz for playing bad its that simple. the fact you take criticism of your favorite streamer personally is quite sad. grow up he doesnt know you and you dont need to defend his honor on VLR of all places.
I think its crazy that you're not willing to admit that a lot of the criticism that hate received was not conducive to his gameplay nor was it similar to other players.
Skrossi was objectively playing bad on a roster with 2 other more capable duelists; Ange1 has pretty much only received criticism for his gameplay; asuna I can agree with, he does receive a lot of hate; cryo and yay have underperformed massively, however everytime 100T play people are or were blaming asuna and bang over him so I don't exactly see your point there.
I never said it wasn't his fault, I said that he was receiving unwarranted hate over unfortunate shit that was happening in his life. It's different to receive hate over gameplay (which he was objectively playing poorly and that old SEN roster was underperforming massively) than it is to receive hate for things outside of that. You didn't even name a single player that received hate for something outside of their gameplay on a largescale besides ardiis, who I already agreed with you that he received a lot of unwarranted hate. You don't need to cocksuck FNS and Ange1 because tarik said Ange1 made a bad play or FNS was being "held down" or some bullshit lmao.
At the end of the day this is a game, you got so heated over this and for what? Because I said TenZ received unwarranted comments over things out of his control? Please look at yourself and realize that yelling on VLR about how everyone should be hated is kind of cringe and have a good day, I am not responding to this thread any longer because I do not want you to spend more time away from your responsibilities, you have made almost 800 posts and I personally would not want to reach that milestone. Have a wonderful day, I know you most likely do not act like this in your day to day life.
Are we also gonna forget the fact that TenZ's personal life went on a turmoil last year to say the least? His fiance got cancer, not the management's fault they had to switch up rosters
this is just.... completely irrelevant... im talking about people correctly saying that tenz played like shit last year and you're bringing up his personal life????
twas a veto issue, they arguably could have won the sunset but it’s questionable giving sen their obvious best 2 maps, im sure they anti stratted but there’s no way to prepare when a teams in flowstate on their best and most well practiced map. would of liked to see them push sen to play other maps when they definitely have some issues on others.
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