He detailed how he had to help yay break some bad habits from spending the previous year playing mainly Chamber for OpTic and how the player wasn’t proficient on other Duelists like Neon and Raze. mCe also said that yay was “his own player” and would put his own spin on set ups that the coaching staff crafted for him. “He’s a very particular player in the way that he wants to play and it can be frustrating to deal with sometimes,” mCe said.
my humble goat not listening?!!!
sounds like mCe is draconian in the way he coaches.
frustrating to deal with but thats the price for having a good player, not just a player that listens to instructions.
You can't win a world championship simply following a formula to perfection; you have to be able to adapt, think for yourself for whatever you can't plan out ahead of time. It may cause headaches at the start, but if you give those players a chance and enough practice to flesh out their ideas then you'll be able to see them truly shine far above their teammates
Obviously, there are times when the idea they're trying to develop ends up leading nowhere (or who would waste too much time trying to perfect it), and it's okay to put your foot down once in a while when it really matters, but you should have faith in your players who have reached the heights they have to be able to grow themselves organically with your overall strategy.
You didn't pick up yay because he fit your vision perfectly, you picked up yay because he's a masters winner and an amazing player with a certain amount of strengths. mCe should've let him find his footing within the overall macro of the game they were trying to play, rather than forcing him to adapt to the playstyle they outlined for him.
mCe is capable of training and drilling players into a good system that works, but coaches like chet or potter who complement rather than dictate their teams strengths are infinitely better for a team that is meant to be a "superteam" of individually-gifted, veteran stars.
"broken" chamber meta, not jett, just a glance and i find one.. u could dig up more if u keep going : https://www.vlr.gg/159759/stealing-lunch-money-vs-sqn-2-0-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2022-november-playoffs-qf/?game=all&tab=overview
you must have really poor reading comprehension to derive i meant he can 1v9 and win.. his previous coaches or IGLs have never complained about him not being able to follow team instructions. mCE on the other hand seems to be the guy who would rather have players who will follow his instructions like robots and have no intelligence of their own.. what that means is his teams will keep missing to destroy KJ ults in crucial rounds and get reverse sweeped because they have no intelligence or willpower to work on their own..
You know, I am not actually defending mCE as you might assume. Valyn actually had some fair criticism for mCe in the last podcast. If i remember correctly, Valyn had his own issues about certain strats/decisions/comps. He initially held back these concerns, thinking perhaps mCe was right. However, as he evolved both as a person and player, he's become more assertive in voicing his perspectives this year. Reflecting on 2022, Valyn believes he had the right reservations. But at the same time, He said that the way mCe coached The Guard last year was necessary for them to grow to the players they are today. He then concluded that mCe "style" (which is hard hitting) is not fit for "seasoned" professionals who know the basics and fundamentals. On that coaching perspective, I'm with you.
But what i am defending is that yay should not get have his cake and eat it too, he acts like he's the creme of the crop and that is NOT how it worked out for Optic in 2022.
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