Who is overrated

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Thriceistoocold

Title don’t say tenz because it obvious

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tenz

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tenz

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Warlordwibz

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tenz

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cNed

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Coopertin0

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alfajer

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duc

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Marved He is great tho

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PINTO0

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KK

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Kkkkķkkkķkkkkk

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Na1myy

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I wont say people from NA since that is to obvious. In literally any game there is a few popular american players get massively overrated. The NA esports scene was and always has been an even more cringe version of high school.

Overrated are:

Bonecold
cNed
Derke (In terms of being seen as the best player in the world even though he aint even or barely is a top 5 player this year)
f0rsaken
Pathipan
Redgar (or at least he was overrated)

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ppmcpoopoo

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i will not stand for this bonecold slander

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Na1myy

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What has he done in the last 1,5 years? Serious question. He has done literally fuck all in vitality. Not even saying that he is bad, I just think he is an average emea IGL.

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lwrrzzs

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disagree
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adilKhan

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f0rsakeN and overrated? Wtf are you saying?

f0rsakeN is literally one of the best flex players in the world right now, and is a key factor to PRX's success

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BayArea

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statistically hasnt even been prx's third best this season

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ryzraktr

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i mean u have smthlikeyou davai mindfreak jingg in one team cant really blame him can you?

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BayArea

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yes, he should be outperforming davai with how much praise he gets and considering how he played last year

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Prontera

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Actually he doesnt have to outperform anybody. He is the only player who need to make a sacrifice when something came, and he did a fine job at his new role. Last year, he was the man. Thats a big diff. Also d4v4i is such an underrated player.

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adilKhan

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Exactly. Idk why people underrate d4v41 so much bruh
He's actually super good, probably PRX's best player after something

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ryzraktr

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do you even watch prx games?

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BayArea

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Every single one.

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Zerphyr1

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I am ashamed then

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ryzraktr

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alright then, how is he overrated then if youve watched all of his games ?

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adilKhan

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Of course, another stats licker.
Even if he's not the best stats-wise he's still having a shit ton of impact every game, and is far from being the worst player on PRX. In fact, I'd argue that PRX doesn't even HAVE a bad player.

Also dude he's fine stats wise as well lmao idk where you're getting your info from

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BayArea

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With the amount of praise he gets, he should be a high stats player as well, not just an “invisible impact” kinda guy.

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adilKhan

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Brother do you even know what the term "overrated" is?
Overrated is when some player is hyped or praised for being good but they actually don't meet their expectations

f0rsakeN certainly DOES meet everyone's expectations of him as a player, and he frags out so much on support agents. Even if you talk stats-wise he's doing well...

In the past 90 days, he's had a 1.19 K/D on Harbor, 1.10 K/D on Killjoy, 1.69 K/D on Skye and 1.42 K/D on Fade. Sure he hasn't played well on agents like Neon and Cypher, but that's alright lmao, he still has good enough impact playing those agents.

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BayArea

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He is not playing to the level he did last year, so he is not meeting expectations

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Zerphyr1

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but people don't have the same expectations as they did last year since hes playing a new role

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Na1myy

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He is, but he aint what makes the team special. To be fair I might be wrong on that one cuz if I think of him I think of his time as the main duelist.

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lmao mans said derke and forsaken u are not smart

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Na1myy

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Derke is 3-4 best player on his team rn. Chronicle and Leo are pretty much the definition of flawless players and Alfa has top 3 aim in the world. f0rsaken is the 3rd best player on his team imo. He is slightly overrated.

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randomperson

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just cause they have good teammates doesn't make them worse

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Na1myy

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If you have better teammates that just means you are not the best player in the world.

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no?
right now sure, not a great season
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like 1% overrrated, sure
yes but you can cut him some slack for how shit of a situation hes in
idk maybe

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Na1myy

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What have you seen from Bonecold that makes you believe that he is good? Vitality certainly doesnt belive in him.

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grenji

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keep patiphans name out yo fucking mouth, bub. and spell it right.

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Na1myy

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I dont care lol

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You don’t know what overrated means ☠️blud talking about forsaken and overrated in the same sentence

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Leblon games

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svoikhnebrosaem

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all na players

saying this as NA user

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shao

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cNed

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NRG

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mon471

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Marved for being carried throughout his successful career. Couldnt even produce good results in their region now

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Krishna_krux

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bro watchu mean Marved was taking most crucial kills at champs 2022 top frag the game vs drx

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Toaster

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cned
botgetsu
pancada

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Pengu12

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Pancada pops off when we he isn’t on killj0y

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WHOLE NAVI ROSTER

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Prontera

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Redgar

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b0tke

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S0mple

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Faraday

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Faraday i expected better from you

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Sorry bro, I gotta say it like it is, I like FNS but at the end of the day
-yay -marved, just ain't been hitting the same

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That's true tho 😭

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EMEAstan

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EG. They had a life tourney in Tokyo and will go back to their normal levels of mid in champs

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Thriceistoocold

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Little bro you do know eg can upset

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koolbanana

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Scream

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L take
Now we will be comparing scream to the top duelists the likes of Derke, yay, rb, dep, surf, xand, nagz, nukkeye, sayaplayer, f0rsaken, paspas.
Derke: fnatic duelist who despite being the star duelist only averages 236 acs on jett which isn’t great since jett is meta rn. Gigachad scream however smacks derke with a whooping 300 acs on jett one of the highest in the world rn.
He also plays Raze and averages only 276 acs which is slightly above average. However in screams recent ranked games he has had an acs of 314 and average damage per round of 189 whereas derke sits at 183.
ScreaM > Derke
Yay: jett 1 trick and can’t rifle for shit op abuser. Avg acs of only 233? ScreaM is 300+ so not even a comparison here. He also uses chamber but since scream doesn’t play chamber, we will be looking at baby scream stats (nivera) and nivera has acs of 234 whereas yay have 237. However, nivera being baby scream means he is slightly weaker than scream putting screams predicted chamber acs at around 245 acs. We also must take into account that scream plays in a tier 1 region whereas yay farms a tier 3 region.
Once again ScreaM > yay
Rb: same case as derke lower acs on both raze and jett + in a tier 3 region
ScreaM > yay
Dep: avg acs of 246 on jett whereas scream is on 300+ Sage acs is 216 whereas scream is 215 despite being in the harder region. Clearly this guy should stick to player viper not duelist.
ScreaM > dep
Surf: same case as derke worse on both raze and jett
ScreaM > surf
Xand: 245 acs on jett which is kinda mid. 236 acs on raze is disappointing ngl. Scream has 300+ on both those agents. Skye he has acs of 123 KEK fucking zombs could do better. ScreaM has 189 on skye.
ScreaM > xand
NagZ: man gets carried by keznit has the worst stats out of everyone on the list with avg acs of 200 on both sage and jett. As for chamber he has avg acs of 184, screams skye stats are higher and by looking at baby screams stats we can see that Nivera have acs of 234 and scream winning the 1v1 vs him this means scream is better than nivera who is better than Nagz
ScreaM > NagZ
Nukkye: 255 acs on jett and 267 acs on raze both lower than scream since scream has 300 acs on jett and 314 acs on raze from ranked. As for sova ScreaM has played that agent in ranked having an acs of 253 which is higher than nukkye 250.8
ScreaM > Nukkye
Sayaplayer: once again only 247 acs on jett scream has 300, 207 acs on raze scream has 314 from ranked with better adr. Saya also plays in NA meaning his opponents are weaker.
ScreaM > sayaplayer
F0rsaken: avg acs of 266 on jett scream has 300, neon f0rsaken has 259 and with SEA being the same as EU ranked ScreaM has acs of 277.7 which is clearly higher. As for yoru ScreaM doesn’t play it so cant compare
ScreaM > F0rsaken
Paspas: 262 acs on jett scream has 300 noob, raze only 260 acs EU ranked same as BR scene and scream got acs of 314 clearly higher. Chamber scream doesn’t play so cant count. Even with chamber scream still better with 2 to 1
ScreaM > paspas

This study concludes that
ScreaM > Derke
ScreaM > yay
ScreaM > dep
ScreaM > surf
ScreaM > xand
ScreaM >NagZ
ScreaM > nukkye
ScreaM > Sayaplayer
ScreaM > F0rsaken
ScreaM > paspas

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never seen someone d**k ride scream so hard

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koolbanana

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bro is only looking at acs and can't consider that this man CANNOT igl for SHIT. He needs to stop cooking in IGL

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LouBag

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I can be objective.

EG is overrated

cNed is overrated

M80 is overrated

The guard is overrated

Apex was SUPER overrated

Turkey is perpetually overrated

C9 is overrated

Mw is overrated

Kaplin is overrated

Chet is overrated

Loud is overrated (even before the Aspas drama)

Sinatraa is overrated

Marved is overrated (S0m >)

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Yistyy

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How can you be wrong about everything

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Why would t0nz overrated? people know him from his content tho, not his pro play.

But yes, y0y & t0nz are overrated. Wardell better op-er, better jett player, better consistency. This forum did wardell dirty.

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TenZ and Zekken still outperformed every c9 this event

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marved, tenz, sacy, pancada
and zekken underrated

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Zekken = Goat
Marved = Replaced by johnqt
Pancada = Can’t ply kj let him play smokes
TenZ = Full time flex
Sacy = Can’t play Skye teach TenZ Skye and all good

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Sacy carrying on skye wdym

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His Skye is no where near his Sova or breach

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Overrated players from each league :
Pacific - Meteor, fl1pzjder, carpe, xnfri, foxz, SkRossi
Americas - Derrek, Xeppaa, TenZ, ardiis, Tacolilla, mwzera
EMEA - cNed, Mixwell, Nivera, Koldamenta, Wolfen

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Skrossi overrated? No one rates him higher than 5

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meteor and carpe is good
taco was overrated but i think people know he fell off

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metor is cracked, he carried his team all season and played amazingly in his game vs TS

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adilKhan

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Meteor was not even that good during regular season, and since people (especially Koreans) hype him up like he's the second coming of Sayaplayer, he's pretty overrated

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India braindead

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Bot region NA

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Patiphan
Idk why pacific people still rate him so high when he only do braindead push alone using smoker

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everyone in NRG apart W stripper

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how is no one saying something?

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Whzy clears Shahzam, D3ffo, adverso, xand, stellar, keloqz, Kanpeki, steel, clear, genghsta, exalt, nerve, xxif, will, trickaim, tenz, heat, runi, zexrow, newzera, fl1pzjder, all of giants gaming, pancc, ntk, b*n, zombs, DerrekOW, all of fusion gaming, Qrax, Dephh, aslanm4shadow, Dapr, both iterations of G2 esports, plat chat premier team, qwertty/owen16, seoldam, xms, etc

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both iterations of G2 esports

💀💀💀💀💀

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Pondy

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As much as I hate to say it Kangkang kind of fell off a cliff this tournament.

FNS is my hot take here. He's a really good IGL but I don't think he's the kind of gigabrain that people are painting him out to be.
Maybe it's just the recency bias but him not being able to adapt to BLG's 'Run it down' strategy in 4 MAPS kind of calls into question what he's doing. I think he has good ideas and has really good game knowledge but his adaptability is holding him back. But then again I don't know what he actually contributes to the team so I could be completely spouting shit.