3 Chinese slots in Champions

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How did I just see this, why!? The Chinese have 1 semi decent team but somehow get 3 slots in Champions? They're just going to get farmed

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riot is a whore for chinese viewership, they'll sacrifice competitiveness for viewership

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Rare gamr W

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bro what viewership https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/fgc-valorant-invitational-2023-act-1-valorant
even emea VCLs get more viewers than this lmao

riot loves china's money tho

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escharts has never counted chinese viewership in their stats

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Have to count bilibili and others those are the main site for chinese viewers

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Like others said escharts doesn't count chinese websites

but also it's not about the viewer there currently are, it's about attracting new viewers since the game just recently released and china is a huge market to be captured

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its called money

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Yeah, but it's a nice way of developing the Chinese scene, by putting them up against the top teams in the world.

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tbh 3 of them is kind of overkill

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It is, but how else are the Chinese teams getting competition outside of China, unless there are some SEA tourneys they can sign up for or something.

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soonwookong

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I like he idea of allowing them 2 slots like in masters and 1/2 slots in pacific lcq

not that pacific lcq teams will like it

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only franchise team able to compete in LCQ, having a non franchise team added to the mix would break the system

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next year china gonna get its own franchise, good way to introduce it to the world

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wdym with good way they are going to get grilled

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you are a heretics fan

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dex_

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anyway i keep getting downfragged but its true, they are not going to win a single game, and if your argument is my team flair then you are braindead

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sentinelmain377

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Heretics fan
:skull: :skull:

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EDG can clap 26-0 heretics bot .

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big copium

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Chirby

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I mean we have 1 competitive team

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edg definitely the strongest team but fpx, ase, bilibili arent too bad either

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China

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-1 because we have multiple

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Gank Gaming ftw, d3ffo will own shitmea and botmericas frauds at champs if he gets visa.

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China

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bruh they won't even be at Champs. BiliBili and whzy will destroy all the frauds

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Itsover

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They will be at champs bro, d3ffo will show the world prime Gambit d3ffo.

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doubt deffo can beat any of ASE, BLG, FPX, EDG, TTG even

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Itsover

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prime form d3ffo will shit on them all trust. weeb power

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they have connection with chinese esport association or something

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They are owned by tencent.

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himne

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yeah i think it’s a little bit too much, i wonder how big valorant is rn in china

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considering there's a "3 hour gaming limit" for people under 18, I'm guessing not that big

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yeah not that big when most of CSGO and Dota 2 rare item owns by chinese. Are you new to esports? I don't understand why you are asking this even lmao

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me when vpns and lying about your age exist

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ying

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Ppl primarily game in Internet cafes in china, and they barely check ur id. Most Kids will take a parents id and the staff just let them thru as if they are a middle aged guy

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cocoluna

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Internet cafes suck near Beijing hot as hell at least during summer and the one I was at

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Are you surprised that half (or full) Chinese company decided to give a big Chinese esports scene extra slots?

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SAMPV6

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actually yes, Champions is supposed to be for the best of the best team, not just teams who have connections with Riot/Tencent/CN Gov 🤷‍♂️

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Miting

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I think Riot decided to do it for the future development and give opportunity to hundreds of Chinese sponsors and organisations come into the game

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yeah, valve would never do sth like this, they gave china 0 slot.

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Miting

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in cs:go they have 2 slots on Asian Qualifier, the same as Mongolia+Russian far east

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diediedie

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yeah, no free slots, they have to fight against other country to get slots

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Yes, because Valve isn't a Chinese company, neither Rito

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smizuu

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rito want viewers so they want china team cause china have huge population W rito

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riot being riot...

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riot gotta farm views from china lol

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Valorant hasn't even released in China yet, its only in its public beta testing stage. This means they are 3 years behind the rest of the world - to make up for that gap they are kickstarting development of the region by giving them lots of opportunity to fight against strong teams from all over the world. This is far more appealing for good players to commit to the game and going pro.

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So you're basically saying they get to be at the top % of teams because you China hasn't played at all? That doesn't make sense

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No, he's saying because China have been building their underground scene with minimal support from Riot for the past three years (barring 2022), they're putting China on a kickstart motor to give the region a chance to catch up in terms of international exposure and experience ahead of their official launch.

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I see, well it isn't like the experience they get is cumulative, so it doesn't really make an impact if they get added straight to champions, they're just gonna experience getting stomped.

They should have added them to Tokyo, or any other off-season tournaments, but Champions is a bit nonsensical to me.

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I mean, China/EDG qualified to Champions by merit of dominating the East Asian LCQ last year, so giving them more opportunity based on record isn't exactly out of the question. Plus, they already have representatives for Tokyo, so the next step is Champions. It's not like Riot is simply inviting these teams to fill the slot, they are competing for the Champions slot anyway.

EDG went toe-to-toe with 100T during LOCK//IN and FPX showed flashes of brilliance during their match against KC. If they aren't given more international (or even pan-regional experience,) they will be left behind.

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Agree to disagree, "flashes of brilliance" against KC and toe to toe vs 100T isn't really much to say at all in regards to deserving a Champions spot, EDG last year had pretty much a guaranteed spot since they needed someone to fill said spot anyway.

I guess we'll have to see how it goes this year, maybe I'm underrating them heavily, but it's not for nothing.

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Except when you realize those two teams were the top 2 teams in the most recent FGC event prior to LOCK//IN (so even if EDG and FPX were the most prepared immediately, the two teams had a reason to represent China.)

In regards to your doubt, do remember that a lot (and I mean a lot) of people were hot on 100T (having won RBHG) and KC (a top VRL team + Scream and Nivera) and most of the fans were talking down on both EDG and FPX. Regardless of the shitshow the former two teams had in their respective leagues, the fact that China didn't exactly keel down and die showed fans and investors alike that these teams are worth the investment and development, and giving them the boost they needed might be the right thing to do to put them on the map.

But I do see where you are coming from, so agree to disagree.

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Riot wants to encompass the whole world in their esport. It’s not a matter of viewers or money, it’s just about inclusivity.

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just wait, Bilibili Gaming gonna fuck NRG up

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their region is newcomer in this game, kinda suck if riot dont give them any chance its fair i think
and ofcs riot need more viewership and sponsor, and i guess you know how big china right?

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westerners need to stop underestimating China, in geopolitics AND video games 😂

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China

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The Chinese teams would fuck up G0-2

you need to stop underestimating them. I would even argue that the Chinese region is almost as good as the Pacific League

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Well they should in theory since they're Franchised, yeah? I'm not saying G2 deserve to be there, I'm saying China doesn't deserve 3 spots

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China

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you got caught up in the first sentence a little too much bro

I said the Chinese region is almost as good as the Pacific League, and how many slots do they get? They get 4 slots. So yes, China does deserve 3 slots.

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Can you read? I just re-stated my point so you could understand it clearly, seeing as you mentioned G2 while it wasn't even in the discussion.

And no, China doesn’t deserve 3 spots just because APAC has 4.

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China

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Ofcourse they deserve 3 slots just because APAC has 4. Do you really think APAC is that much better than China? bro think again

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Poor guy... let him cope guys

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China

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You should take off that TYLOO flair since you're so much against China. Maybe change it to some shitty indonesian team

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SleepyBear

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imagine pretending u ar chinese lul patetic, no one in china using vlr lmaoo. did people from china know BerserX to ? wkwk dasar tolol

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No one is pretending to be Chinese, absolutely no one. I'm European if that's what you wanted to know. But you just seem to have a lot against China, while for some reason still being a fan of a Chinese team lol you dumbass

Also, say that shit in English and not in your native language pussy. I'm not typing in my native language either

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Botkiller69

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0 win on international match all stuck in group stage bro say china same lvl with other region what a joke kekw

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China

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yeah maybe cuz they've only ever played 4 matches internationally and those were against top teams (liquid, prx, 100t) except Kcorp. And those matches against 100t and prx were so damn close, so yes, I would say that Chinese teams would be able to beat Pacific League teams easily. But you can keep coping if you want, you'll see the results later this year

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100t isn't a top team but edg should have won that, ChiChoo and KangKang will be top 10 players in americas and apac leagues easily.

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100T was definetely the best at the time in NA, they just fell off later. People were making the same argument that PRX fell off so EDG almost beating them wasn't a merit but look at PRX now. Teams aren't just consistently bad

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Who cares makes group stage easier for the good teams

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China

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nah bro you'd rather play against 3 additional emea teams than the Chinese teams, just watch

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sauros

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i'll take my chances vs the Chinese teams over NAVI, FNATIC and whoever wins LCQ

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China

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bro I said 3 additional emea teams which means no Chinese teams + 3 emea teams on top of the ones that already make it to the champions

i mean you said it makes it easier that there is 3 China teams there instead of more teams from the partner league

why can no one read properly here?

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Riot slurping that chinese noodle

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Imagine in the next 5 year china dominate the league. This happened in lol

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riot sucking that chinese d***

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Its really tasty 😋

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soonwookong

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no its not :')

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How you know

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soonwookong

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take a wild guess

i dont know the taste if it's japanese ;)

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wtf

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next year champions format:
8 chinese teams from regular splits
4 from chinese lcq
1 from americas
1 from emea
1 from pacific
+1 for whoever won last masters
(emea, americas, pacific doesnt get an lcq)

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kang kang played in 2 tournaments and farmed with his chamber/jett even though his team lost. I think they'll do fine.

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Itsover

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KangKang is 3rd best player on edg imo, ChiChoo clears and Smoggy kinda clears too, they will place top 3 in Tokyo and vlr will drown in cope threads.

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Every other week until champs we will have this discourse. It pains me to see these threads come up when we know EDG will win Tokyo.

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riot: hello i want chinese money

vlr: wow riot really wants to make the game more competitive adding china???

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SAMPV6

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it's simple really, still unfair

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Their goal is replicating CrossFire

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best game ever tbh

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Deserved tbh