How did I just see this, why!? The Chinese have 1 semi decent team but somehow get 3 slots in Champions? They're just going to get farmed
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himne [#6]yeah i think it’s a little bit too much, i wonder how big valorant is rn in china
considering there's a "3 hour gaming limit" for people under 18, I'm guessing not that big
StrafingGoatWoweeClap [#5]they have connection with chinese esport association or something
They are owned by tencent.
SAMPV6 [#7]considering there's a "3 hour gaming limit" for people under 18, I'm guessing not that big
yeah not that big when most of CSGO and Dota 2 rare item owns by chinese. Are you new to esports? I don't understand why you are asking this even lmao
SAMPV6 [#7]considering there's a "3 hour gaming limit" for people under 18, I'm guessing not that big
me when vpns and lying about your age exist
Miting [#9]Are you surprised that half (or full) Chinese company decided to give a big Chinese esports scene extra slots?
actually yes, Champions is supposed to be for the best of the best team, not just teams who have connections with Riot/Tencent/CN Gov 🤷♂️
SAMPV6 [#7]considering there's a "3 hour gaming limit" for people under 18, I'm guessing not that big
Ppl primarily game in Internet cafes in china, and they barely check ur id. Most Kids will take a parents id and the staff just let them thru as if they are a middle aged guy
SAMPV6 [#12]actually yes, Champions is supposed to be for the best of the best team, not just teams who have connections with Riot/Tencent/CN Gov 🤷♂️
I think Riot decided to do it for the future development and give opportunity to hundreds of Chinese sponsors and organisations come into the game
Warlordwibz [#4]next year china gonna get its own franchise, good way to introduce it to the world
wdym with good way they are going to get grilled
Valorant hasn't even released in China yet, its only in its public beta testing stage. This means they are 3 years behind the rest of the world - to make up for that gap they are kickstarting development of the region by giving them lots of opportunity to fight against strong teams from all over the world. This is far more appealing for good players to commit to the game and going pro.
xSaneZ [#19]Valorant hasn't even released in China yet, its only in its public beta testing stage. This means they are 3 years behind the rest of the world - to make up for that gap they are kickstarting development of the region by giving them lots of opportunity to fight against strong teams from all over the world. This is far more appealing for good players to commit to the game and going pro.
So you're basically saying they get to be at the top % of teams because you China hasn't played at all? That doesn't make sense
SAMPV6 [#22]So you're basically saying they get to be at the top % of teams because you China hasn't played at all? That doesn't make sense
No, he's saying because China have been building their underground scene with minimal support from Riot for the past three years (barring 2022), they're putting China on a kickstart motor to give the region a chance to catch up in terms of international exposure and experience ahead of their official launch.
SAMPV6 [#12]actually yes, Champions is supposed to be for the best of the best team, not just teams who have connections with Riot/Tencent/CN Gov 🤷♂️
yeah, valve would never do sth like this, they gave china 0 slot.
TMosura [#25]No, he's saying because China have been building their underground scene with minimal support from Riot for the past three years (barring 2022), they're putting China on a kickstart motor to give the region a chance to catch up in terms of international exposure and experience ahead of their official launch.
I see, well it isn't like the experience they get is cumulative, so it doesn't really make an impact if they get added straight to champions, they're just gonna experience getting stomped.
They should have added them to Tokyo, or any other off-season tournaments, but Champions is a bit nonsensical to me.
SAMPV6 [#31]I see, well it isn't like the experience they get is cumulative, so it doesn't really make an impact if they get added straight to champions, they're just gonna experience getting stomped.
They should have added them to Tokyo, or any other off-season tournaments, but Champions is a bit nonsensical to me.
I mean, China/EDG qualified to Champions by merit of dominating the East Asian LCQ last year, so giving them more opportunity based on record isn't exactly out of the question. Plus, they already have representatives for Tokyo, so the next step is Champions. It's not like Riot is simply inviting these teams to fill the slot, they are competing for the Champions slot anyway.
EDG went toe-to-toe with 100T during LOCK//IN and FPX showed flashes of brilliance during their match against KC. If they aren't given more international (or even pan-regional experience,) they will be left behind.
China [#34]The Chinese teams would fuck up G0-2
you need to stop underestimating them. I would even argue that the Chinese region is almost as good as the Pacific League
Well they should in theory since they're Franchised, yeah? I'm not saying G2 deserve to be there, I'm saying China doesn't deserve 3 spots
SAMPV6 [#35]Well they should in theory since they're Franchised, yeah? I'm not saying G2 deserve to be there, I'm saying China doesn't deserve 3 spots
you got caught up in the first sentence a little too much bro
I said the Chinese region is almost as good as the Pacific League, and how many slots do they get? They get 4 slots. So yes, China does deserve 3 slots.
TMosura [#32]I mean, China/EDG qualified to Champions by merit of dominating the East Asian LCQ last year, so giving them more opportunity based on record isn't exactly out of the question. Plus, they already have representatives for Tokyo, so the next step is Champions. It's not like Riot is simply inviting these teams to fill the slot, they are competing for the Champions slot anyway.
EDG went toe-to-toe with 100T during LOCK//IN and FPX showed flashes of brilliance during their match against KC. If they aren't given more international (or even pan-regional experience,) they will be left behind.
Agree to disagree, "flashes of brilliance" against KC and toe to toe vs 100T isn't really much to say at all in regards to deserving a Champions spot, EDG last year had pretty much a guaranteed spot since they needed someone to fill said spot anyway.
I guess we'll have to see how it goes this year, maybe I'm underrating them heavily, but it's not for nothing.
sauros [#36]Who cares makes group stage easier for the good teams
nah bro you'd rather play against 3 additional emea teams than the Chinese teams, just watch
China [#40]nah bro you'd rather play against 3 additional emea teams than the Chinese teams, just watch
i'll take my chances vs the Chinese teams over NAVI, FNATIC and whoever wins LCQ
sauros [#42]i'll take my chances vs the Chinese teams over NAVI, FNATIC and whoever wins LCQ
bro I said 3 additional emea teams which means no Chinese teams + 3 emea teams on top of the ones that already make it to the champions
i mean you said it makes it easier that there is 3 China teams there instead of more teams from the partner league
why can no one read properly here?
China [#37]you got caught up in the first sentence a little too much bro
I said the Chinese region is almost as good as the Pacific League, and how many slots do they get? They get 4 slots. So yes, China does deserve 3 slots.
Can you read? I just re-stated my point so you could understand it clearly, seeing as you mentioned G2 while it wasn't even in the discussion.
And no, China doesn’t deserve 3 spots just because APAC has 4.
deLiriousLA [#3]its called money
Yeah, but it's a nice way of developing the Chinese scene, by putting them up against the top teams in the world.
diediedie [#26]yeah, valve would never do sth like this, they gave china 0 slot.
in cs:go they have 2 slots on Asian Qualifier, the same as Mongolia+Russian far east
Chirby [#28]I mean we have 1 competitive team
edg definitely the strongest team but fpx, ase, bilibili arent too bad either
SAMPV6 [#38]Agree to disagree, "flashes of brilliance" against KC and toe to toe vs 100T isn't really much to say at all in regards to deserving a Champions spot, EDG last year had pretty much a guaranteed spot since they needed someone to fill said spot anyway.
I guess we'll have to see how it goes this year, maybe I'm underrating them heavily, but it's not for nothing.
Except when you realize those two teams were the top 2 teams in the most recent FGC event prior to LOCK//IN (so even if EDG and FPX were the most prepared immediately, the two teams had a reason to represent China.)
In regards to your doubt, do remember that a lot (and I mean a lot) of people were hot on 100T (having won RBHG) and KC (a top VRL team + Scream and Nivera) and most of the fans were talking down on both EDG and FPX. Regardless of the shitshow the former two teams had in their respective leagues, the fact that China didn't exactly keel down and die showed fans and investors alike that these teams are worth the investment and development, and giving them the boost they needed might be the right thing to do to put them on the map.
But I do see where you are coming from, so agree to disagree.
SAMPV6 [#45]Can you read? I just re-stated my point so you could understand it clearly, seeing as you mentioned G2 while it wasn't even in the discussion.
And no, China doesn’t deserve 3 spots just because APAC has 4.
Ofcourse they deserve 3 slots just because APAC has 4. Do you really think APAC is that much better than China? bro think again
China [#52]Ofcourse they deserve 3 slots just because APAC has 4. Do you really think APAC is that much better than China? bro think again
Poor guy... let him cope guys
SleepyBear [#56]Poor guy... let him cope guys
You should take off that TYLOO flair since you're so much against China. Maybe change it to some shitty indonesian team
Scarlet [#20]you are a heretics fan
anyway i keep getting downfragged but its true, they are not going to win a single game, and if your argument is my team flair then you are braindead
China [#52]Ofcourse they deserve 3 slots just because APAC has 4. Do you really think APAC is that much better than China? bro think again
0 win on international match all stuck in group stage bro say china same lvl with other region what a joke kekw
danii1 [#46]Yeah, but it's a nice way of developing the Chinese scene, by putting them up against the top teams in the world.
tbh 3 of them is kind of overkill
soonwookong [#61]tbh 3 of them is kind of overkill
It is, but how else are the Chinese teams getting competition outside of China, unless there are some SEA tourneys they can sign up for or something.
danii1 [#63]It is, but how else are the Chinese teams getting competition outside of China, unless there are some SEA tourneys they can sign up for or something.
I like he idea of allowing them 2 slots like in masters and 1/2 slots in pacific lcq
not that pacific lcq teams will like it
China [#57]You should take off that TYLOO flair since you're so much against China. Maybe change it to some shitty indonesian team
imagine pretending u ar chinese lul patetic, no one in china using vlr lmaoo. did people from china know BerserX to ? wkwk dasar tolol
Botkiller69 [#60]0 win on international match all stuck in group stage bro say china same lvl with other region what a joke kekw
yeah maybe cuz they've only ever played 4 matches internationally and those were against top teams (liquid, prx, 100t) except Kcorp. And those matches against 100t and prx were so damn close, so yes, I would say that Chinese teams would be able to beat Pacific League teams easily. But you can keep coping if you want, you'll see the results later this year
SleepyBear [#67]imagine pretending u ar chinese lul patetic, no one in china using vlr lmaoo. did people from china know BerserX to ? wkwk dasar tolol
No one is pretending to be Chinese, absolutely no one. I'm European if that's what you wanted to know. But you just seem to have a lot against China, while for some reason still being a fan of a Chinese team lol you dumbass
Also, say that shit in English and not in your native language pussy. I'm not typing in my native language either
Miting [#47]in cs:go they have 2 slots on Asian Qualifier, the same as Mongolia+Russian far east
yeah, no free slots, they have to fight against other country to get slots
soonwookong [#64]I like he idea of allowing them 2 slots like in masters and 1/2 slots in pacific lcq
not that pacific lcq teams will like it
only franchise team able to compete in LCQ, having a non franchise team added to the mix would break the system
diediedie [#70]yeah, no free slots, they have to fight against other country to get slots
Yes, because Valve isn't a Chinese company, neither Rito
koromast [#65]riot: hello i want chinese money
vlr: wow riot really wants to make the game more competitive adding china???
it's simple really, still unfair
China [#68]yeah maybe cuz they've only ever played 4 matches internationally and those were against top teams (liquid, prx, 100t) except Kcorp. And those matches against 100t and prx were so damn close, so yes, I would say that Chinese teams would be able to beat Pacific League teams easily. But you can keep coping if you want, you'll see the results later this year
100t isn't a top team but edg should have won that, ChiChoo and KangKang will be top 10 players in americas and apac leagues easily.
crashhacker1 [#54]kang kang played in 2 tournaments and farmed with his chamber/jett even though his team lost. I think they'll do fine.
KangKang is 3rd best player on edg imo, ChiChoo clears and Smoggy kinda clears too, they will place top 3 in Tokyo and vlr will drown in cope threads.
China [#53]-1 because we have multiple
Gank Gaming ftw, d3ffo will own shitmea and botmericas frauds at champs if he gets visa.
ying [#14]Ppl primarily game in Internet cafes in china, and they barely check ur id. Most Kids will take a parents id and the staff just let them thru as if they are a middle aged guy
Internet cafes suck near Beijing hot as hell at least during summer and the one I was at
gamr [#2]riot is a whore for chinese viewership, they'll sacrifice competitiveness for viewership
bro what viewership https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/fgc-valorant-invitational-2023-act-1-valorant
even emea VCLs get more viewers than this lmao
riot loves china's money tho
alice_ [#82]bro what viewership https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/fgc-valorant-invitational-2023-act-1-valorant
even emea VCLs get more viewers than this lmaoriot loves china's money tho
escharts has never counted chinese viewership in their stats
Itsover [#80]Gank Gaming ftw, d3ffo will own shitmea and botmericas frauds at champs if he gets visa.
bruh they won't even be at Champs. BiliBili and whzy will destroy all the frauds
China [#84]bruh they won't even be at Champs. BiliBili and whzy will destroy all the frauds
They will be at champs bro, d3ffo will show the world prime Gambit d3ffo.
Itsover [#85]They will be at champs bro, d3ffo will show the world prime Gambit d3ffo.
doubt deffo can beat any of ASE, BLG, FPX, EDG, TTG even
xSaneZ [#87]doubt deffo can beat any of ASE, BLG, FPX, EDG, TTG even
prime form d3ffo will shit on them all trust. weeb power
Itsover [#78]100t isn't a top team but edg should have won that, ChiChoo and KangKang will be top 10 players in americas and apac leagues easily.
100T was definetely the best at the time in NA, they just fell off later. People were making the same argument that PRX fell off so EDG almost beating them wasn't a merit but look at PRX now. Teams aren't just consistently bad
alice_ [#82]bro what viewership https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/fgc-valorant-invitational-2023-act-1-valorant
even emea VCLs get more viewers than this lmaoriot loves china's money tho
Have to count bilibili and others those are the main site for chinese viewers
alice_ [#82]bro what viewership https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/fgc-valorant-invitational-2023-act-1-valorant
even emea VCLs get more viewers than this lmaoriot loves china's money tho
Like others said escharts doesn't count chinese websites
but also it's not about the viewer there currently are, it's about attracting new viewers since the game just recently released and china is a huge market to be captured
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