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Objective TOP 10 players, cry about it

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  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Mako
  4. Less
  5. Derke
  6. Aspas
  7. Sayf
  8. Chronicle
  9. Marved
  10. k1ng

Honorable mentions: kingg, qw1, crashies, stax, cloud, alfajer, sacy, suygetsu, zyppan, zekken, nAts, leaf, pancada, zmjjkk, foxy9, f0rsaken, jingg, dgzin, meteor, nukkye, khalil

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Less over pancada=L

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Posttraumatic Less disorder owns Pancada.

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DISORDER? BEST TEAM IN VCC? W

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pancada is ass

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amazing list. W

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finally a good top 10 list

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honourable mentions should have atakaptan over qw1 or just add atakaptan

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Good list

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where my god king Tenz?

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He surpasses the list. He is the list. The list is him but he's not the list.

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1leaf

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k1ng is underrated in all these debates. Glad he's recognized as top player worldwide for his role.

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Bro is talking about marved who's played two games and crashies as an honorable mention but isn't talking about s0m who's consistently done well since Lock//IN give for one or two MAPS

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Did you forget to wake up? Crashies is arguably the most consistent player ever, dropped bombs during LOCK/IN, and is deemed the most underrated player by FNS and a few others respected names.

Marved was MVP and was amazing even afterwards. Still is now.

s0m might be honorable mention level of player but needs to show more to be really compared to them.

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i love s0m but relax buddy, marved was off for 7 months and with 2 days of practice is still playing like a top 10 player itw. respect him please

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Finally k1Ng has been mentioned at last

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Shit list, where is Botssi the goat πŸ—Ώ

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nAts top 10 πŸ€”

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prime nAts-yes
current nAts-honourable mention but not top 10 anymore for sure.Hope he get back to his prime.

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I think Khalil and s0m should be there too, at least in honorable mentions

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Khalil is a honourable mention

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brother put foxy9 like we will not notice

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W list tbh but I prefer putting Shao 5 and then Derke, MaKo and Less

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Shao should be #1 my friend

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Aga leo ve shaonun maçlardaki etkisini anlamıyor bu insanlar

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doğru evet, bu arada Shao > Leo bana gâre
dünyanın en iyisi Shao formdan düşene kadar Shao ✍️

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about damn time we see k1ng in the list

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foxy9 will be on this once he proves himself at tokyo

also Leo is insanely overrated

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I fear you might not have borne witness to his regional performance, seeing as how many do not pay attention to EMEA playoffs, and not without good reason.

If I belonged to that class of people, I'd have agreed. I was curious when I first heard of him, thought he was overrated, and when I took a closer look at his gameplay, I was convinced that while he might not be the best player in the world -- he wasn't really inferior to anyone.

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i think he deserves to be on this list because his sova util is literally unmatched by anyone in the world; not even crashies can match how effectively he uses his util on sova. he is also really good on breach. his aim is amazing and he lives for so long every round. thats what makes him the best itw, not the fact that he makes insane plays all the time, or he gets a lot of entry frags. he doesnt really shine to most people because he plays as a support role.

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Less went from underrated to the most overrated player Valorant has ever seen. Have people who rank him top 5 actually watched him play?

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He went from underrated to fairly rated. He's still the best player on LOUD and that means something considering the presence of Aspas in the team.

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I've watched pretty much every LOUD game from the last 12 months and while usually it's been kinda 50-50 between them, Less has been VERY underwhelming the whole of Americas league, meanwhile Aspas is looking incredible every game

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Translated: I did not watch a single LOUD game from the last 12 months but I saw a thread about Aspas

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That's a fair point, on Aspas being dominant as of now. However, at worst, I suppose I'm more partial to non-duelists that can score such high performance. Aspas has been on the lead right now just as Less was at times in the past too. I guess it's back and forth between them. If one's underwhelming, the other is sure to step up. It's just Aspas' turn right now if you ask me.

We'll have to observe more before making a definitive statement. I still think Less is the best player on the team.

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k1ng?????? πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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marved #1

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good list

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Won’t cry over a list this awful. πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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Now say that without crying.

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k1ng got diffed by botssi πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’” can't imagine being as stupid as u

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By that logic, Cryo is better than derke because he diff'd him once that time.

A measure of a player is not who he diffs and got diff'd by lol, there are ranked players who diff pro players who seldom diff pro players. It's a measure of a player over a large of sample of meaningful and significant games.

Grow some few points of IQ by reflecting on this please.

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bro thinks k1ng only got diffed once by t3 players πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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You think yay didn't get diff'd by collegiate players?

That's a narrow minded way of looking at things. It's about the overall performance over a large sample of games

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that's why yay isn't top 10 πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

but k1ng is immune I guess πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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better edit the title to put TOP 10 FRANCHISED players πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”He isn't active, it's as simple as that πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’” If he were to retire, would you still complain "better edit the title to put Top 10 still active players πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”"?

It's not just mine, he's been tactfully left off people's lists, not because he's a bad player but just that we concentrate on tier 1 and we don't know how well yay would fare in the current meta. VALORANT is a highly dynamic game where variables shift constantly.

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k1ng got diffed by crws πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’” can't imagine being as stupid as u

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k1ng got diffed by EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON PRX

can't imagine being as stupid as you πŸ’”πŸΆπŸ’”

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what about bang
bang should take all 10 spots

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Bang is big bang itself. Without bang there would be no creation of the universe. He transcends this list.

Bang revealed to me in my dream that he's okay letting kids enjoy their undeserved glory.

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Prime hiko clears the top two

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Even the current Hiko clears everyone else.

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Great list although top 5 is a little interchangeable imo
Leo
Less
Derke
Mako
Shao

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Completely agreed.

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Leo
Aspas
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Leaf
Sayf
K1ng
Shao

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How in the world is Shao, who was not only the runner-up of LOCK/IN just behind Leo, but also the MVP of Copenhagen worse than Leaf? Hell. Even Shao's regional performance are better than Leaf's own regional performance.

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Sayf is not top 10 overrated player

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agreed

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Aspas clears

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He'll have to show more.

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Kingg top 2 rating in champions and top 3 rating in americas league being igl and he is not at least in honorable mentions. Dissapointed but not surprised, typical Na and Emea fans ranking

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Bang should be in HM at minimum

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Multiple top 10 shouts here

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I just think that Sayf is 10th otherwise this list is pretty good

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Really Korean k1ng over kingg?

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k1NG > kiNgg

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FNC won 1/700 titles they played for and dude already says derke > aspas holy shit 😭

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W list till 7

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nah this is biased AF. not even an honorable mention for FNS is crazy considering we know how much of a difference a good IGL can make. Fnatic/EU fan list

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This list is about top 10 best players - not top 10 most valuable players; we're talking about mechanical skills and gamesense.

HLTV top 20 list doesn't include IGLs for a reason; this is usually the conventional model of top 20 players list.

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