What Dephh defenders don't get

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NAclearsSA

He isn't just magically gonna get better with more time. What you see is what you get with him. He's just literally not good enough to be on a good tier 1 team, nevertheless to IGL world class players and champions winners

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They’ll all come around once we lose to KRU. That will be a huge wake up call for those on the fence

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in your opinion as a sentinels fan, is it better for sentinels to lose to kru in order to change igl?

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I have no hope for this team even if we make playoffs to then make Tokyo. But if we make playoffs people will believe we need to give the team time and we go into next season with dephh as well. We need to be shattered so we can get a new look at the roster w/ a better IGL.

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No cause they won't be able to change him

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NAclearsSA

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SEN will beat KRU and then people will be like "See they just needed time". And then when SEN will play a half decent team and lose convincingly (which they will), only then they understand. Pancada, Sacy, Marved and Zekken is so much firepower they will beat the subpar teams without IGLing most of the time

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sadly true.

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I don’t think they’ll understand until the loss is too embarrassing

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Lmao, unfortunately I don't think even SEN can lose to this KRU. Last year's KRU? Sure but this year...nah

It's not like sen are currently winless

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The fact that he is an awful IGL doesn't mean you can play without one (Sacy is definitely not an IGL)

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Bro they got 4 players that are good enough to play without much igling. 3 players that are in contention of best player in there role and a cracked duelist that the coach and igl of the team both said that could igl in the future cuz hes mad smart . How is this team not playing well

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Mortadelo

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Funny because they look pretty lost with an IGL I do not wanna imagine without one. That's just not how it works you can't just not have an IGL

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But you don't get it, they look lost BECAUSE of dephhs calls, the individuals aren't willingly doing this shit on their own. It's all coming from dephh telling them to camp mid and wait for 30s left on pearl in a 4v5 to rush site and just all die.
Dephhs calls are trash, not the teams chamistry or coordination.
They literally put in marved and the team looked a million times better already

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NAclearsSA

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It's a tricky one for sure since they can't sign a tier 2 IGL right now. With that said i just can't see a world where for example Marved IGLing and Tenz stepping in won't make Sentinels much better. Dephh's calling is subpar and individually he's the worst player in Americas. I'm 100% sure Marved's calling would be better and you would get a huge upgrade in firepower

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I think people underestimate the value of an actual IGL, even if it's not the best one

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I think you overestimate the impact of an below average IGL like Dephh. IGL is the most important role absolutely, but with that being said, his IGLing is the worst in Americas

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Mortadelo

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I'd rather a bellow average IGL than all 5 just play like a ranked game

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I mean, one of the 5 SEN players would still IGL no? Marved's game sense is infinitely better than Dephh's and he's done midround calling. Obviously that doesn't equal to IGLing but there's no way he wouldn't be a better IGL than Dephh

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Mortadelo

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Dude Sen are not fucking dumb. If both Sacy and Marved could actually do the job do you not thing they would already be doing it?

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NAclearsSA

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No that's the thing... SEN absolutely are that dumb lmao

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Why do you think Sen were so close to the win against loud? It's because everyone but dephh was doing the work

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Mortadelo

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You literally can't see dephhs job. He probably called great that day

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ItsHunter

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HE DIDNT THO, you have to be a fucking idiot to believe that. There hasn't been a single shred of good calling out of dephh since xset if you can even find any there. The truth is he's been playing and calling the same since the start of this roster. HES DOGSHIT, and if you don't see that you're clearly an idiot.
His numbers are below the worst of the worst, his calls are strategies that don't even work in ranked, he's taking the roles of his 2 best players away from them just so he can feel comfortable and get 5 kills in a 26 round game, WHAT ABOUT HIM SAYS TIER 1 TO YOU??? IM GENUINELY CURIOUS, please fucking tell me cause I don't see it and I haven't been convinced by anyone to this point

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Didn’t realize you were listening to sentinels comms coach damn well how they been doing in practice?

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I don't think Marved is IGL player. He didn't even comm much in the Sen comms video

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Marved was IGL until he was picked up by Envy. He IGL'ed his entire time in FaZe, not sure where you're getting your info from (not saying that Marved is an exceptional IGL because of it, but he definitely has enough experience of calling in Valorant at a pretty decent level)

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Yea but they wouldn't do any worse without him

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You would be surprised

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You'd be surprised...

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Fuck it have zekken IGL and flex and bring TenZ back

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-Dephh +TenZ
Zekken igled for the team Xset scouted him off of so at this point make him igl and the rest assist in midrounding

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the thing is zekken entry > tenz entry

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ItsHunter

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It's really not if you don't think it was evident enough today

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didn't even realise they played yesterday lmao mb

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tetris

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zekkens entry on raze is better but his entry on jett is equally as bad as tenz was

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Plus Zekken can’t op so getting TenZ would be big

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Gutwi

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Thats for reminding why these tenz simps smd tenz are so shit at the game

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I was never a fan of SEN picking up Dephh as the IGL in the first place. He was only part time IGLing on XSET whilst he shared it with Ayrin. Problem is IGLs are really hard to come by so I guess they just took what they could and assumed with a good coaching staff around him he would mould into the role better. Sadly it’s not working.

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ItsHunter

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Any tier 2 or collegiate igl would do better than him with the resources he's given

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Tyzehhxo

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Probably true, I mean C9 took a risk with a collegiate player and it’s paying off already. Maybe orgs need to start doing the same. Kaplan is an amazing coach and I truly believe he could mould a fresh IGL, I’m not sure what’s wrong with Dephh though and why he can’t fix him.

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ItsHunter

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He's 31 years old and has never had a talent.
Why do you think an unknown 31 year old is even still trying to compete? He has 0 potential cause if he had any we would've seen it already. Even in real life he's carried by his wife

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Tyzehhxo

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I mean true hahah, I just remember him for being the weakest link at XSET and when I saw SEN sign him I was like "why" think it might be time for him to hang it all up though, he doesnt seem to be able to adapt.

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ayrin was cooking this whole year for xset not dephh, deph is their caller plan in game

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in XSET AYRIN was calling on defense and dephh on attack (or at least that's what the intended setup was, however if you look at footage from events you see AYRIN doing 'work' on attacking side too)

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Nah dephh should definitely fear for his job. All this talk is stupid though because they don't even need to trade him, they can just sub in Tenz for one match and see how it goes. All the NA teams were trolling anyway by experimenting with role swaps even though it was stupid. I guess it's too late to experiment cuz they're on the cusp of making playoffs, but if they become out of playoffs mathematically might as well try -dephh + Tenz.

I really think they'll be better pugging cuz dephhs strats and rotations have proven to be ass anyway.

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cyk

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Am I the last one to know this dude is even older than shazam....

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Nachtel

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offer Johnqt a high af salary for the love of god. poach that mfer

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DaDoar

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not surprised that one of the worst CS player to ever reach tier 1 somehow and that leeched off the valorant pro scene by getting in early enough ends up finally being exposed for what he is, hopefully all the other ex CS tier 2-3 leechers fianlly get all exposed like him

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Meanwhile ayrin with no namers cooking in Pacific