sen actually stopped trolling

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why so fucking late though 😭

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they are still playing breach what are you talking about

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johnqt isn’t the one playing it though

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I mean Zellsis's breach has to be one of the best though so I don't think its that bad

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Dudhi

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breach on this map doesnt seem that bad no? at least we're not forcing him on maps he's obviously not good on

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Honestly as a breach hater, if zellsis is the one on breach I'm okay with that as long as it's only on sunset

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zellsis using breach is way better than john. he sets up the team better with util

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Why does everyone hate Breach more than Harbor all of a sudden

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not that fun to watch him in pro play even if his kit is designated for that + he’s overrated

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Not but like why did the narrative go from "Breach is good on most maps" to "Breach is the worst agent to exist" in one week max

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Because breach was only good thanks to tejo +he got nerfed. Breach was never a top tier pick, but it was fine for a while thanks to cracked neon and cracked tejo. On his own he is shit unless you're very good with it and you have very good stuff prepped with it

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Breach has been meta for a very long time and his nerf was a 0.2 buffer on one ability. Teams have been using him forever and most have good prep with him

I'm not saying he's optimal but the switch up is crazy sudden

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Every initiator except sova and fade is in a really bad spot right now because flashes are seen as less useful.

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only really good breach players gives value, half assed breach doesn't, especially with the stun nerf

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Being used=/= being good

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its not an info giver so pretty much a useless agent if you use his util incorrectly once

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he was never great (except when tejo was broken) and currently it’s just abundantly clear that either viper or deadlock is better on basically every map

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zekken tryna knife is insane

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Furia just bad

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they couldve saved strats and kept johnqt on breach until their c9 game

now c9 will know how to anti strat with a competent breach player gg

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they fixed the icebox comp too they might actually be back

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would you look at that, an icebox comp with roles that make sense