Best players for every agent

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GreyDaze

Phoenix-Scream/Victor
Raze-Jiing/Derke<<<<<<<<_mwzera
Jett-Derke
Yoru-Forsaken
Neon-rb
Reyna-Jiing
Sage-Suygetsu
Cypher-Nats
Kj-Shyy/Suygetsu
Chamber-Yay
Omen-Mako/Pancada
Astra-Boaster
Brimstone-Marved/Mako
Viper-Less
Harbor-Stax/Tuyz
Breach-Chronicle/Stax
Sova-Leo
Fade-Shao
Skye-Caunzin/Crashies
Kay/o-Zyppan
Gekko-ange1😂

Chronicle gigachad cracked on all the agents

Let me know any changes or additions that can be made

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Yoru - gtnJESUS

Also how can you not have MWZERA on RAZE?
There's a whole lore about how he's the best Raze

And sugarz3ro on astra

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Sug3zero fell off imo. Boaster actually is really good with Astra utility so I put him up there. And u are right I forgot about God mwzera

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Zeta fell off, sugarzero is still very good

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He's alright. Not as good as b4 tho

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he's igling so ofc his performance went down, still prolly insane on astra tho

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all controller agents: MaKo

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Nah yoru cned

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Breach - Stax

the pioneer

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surely u put bang somewhere for controller

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GreyDaze

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He ain't better than anyone I mentioned for omen,viper,Astra and brim. Also he hasn't proven himself at all on lan

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kinda confuse why you put nats with cypher
he isnt doing well and according to your logic, you should also put him on viper since you put pancada on omen when he switched to the sentinel role
last series he played kj and viper

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Pancada played Sentinel for one match. It's not like he has been playing it for ages like kinggg on raze. That's why I excluded him on raze but included pancada on controller. Also nats still has been really good on Cypher and was always the best Cypher.

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goAts clears any cypher/sentinel player

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tbh, bang hasn't been outstanding since LCQ

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He's really good with all of them but is always just short of the best imo

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Jett Aspas

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GreyDaze

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Derke>aspas

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aspas is more complete

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aspas is crazy on flicks and inconsistent with raw aim(flick players are usually like this), derke is aim demon. derke clears aspas on 1v1

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GEKKO - Saadhak

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viper should be mako and less also why is boaster best astra

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GreyDaze

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Boaster is the best player to use Astra utility that's why. If u watch his vods u can see how good he is at utility

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no way you're saying that when MaKo did this: https://www.youtube.com/live/OC4j306fi3c?feature=share&t=21629

man smoked main, sucked for kay/o nade, got ulted by sova, went immediately into astral and put down the most clutch astral wall while sova is still ulting, breaks omen ult, and kills 3 to hold site

if you watch MaKo's vods he is hands down the best Astra player and best Brim player active rn

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breach leo
reyna asuna
viper nats
jett sayf

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GreyDaze

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Leo doesn't play breach now
Jiing asuna clear
Less is better and this is coming from a nats fan
Derke miles clear of any jett itw rn

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Viper - nAts
Killjoy - Alfajer

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GreyDaze

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As a nats fan it hurts me to say this but less is clear of nats on viper. Alfajer is definitely 3rd best on kj but I wanted to limit to 2 players at most on each agent

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Less can only be nAts's fan
and Alfajer is definitely a better Killjoy

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TenZ better than jiing on Reyna

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GreyDaze

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Nahhh

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Vbnmcxz

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TenZ’s rating with Reyna is 1.37 with 1270 rounds played
Jinggg’s rating with Reyna is 1.39 but played less than 1000 rounds with her; moreover, jingg played in tier2 for a long time and tier2 apac is way weaker.

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GreyDaze

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Tenz hasn't been good since 2021. Jing will destroy any reyna main itw

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Vbnmcxz

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TenZ won a tournament playing Reyna so what exactly did jinggg achieve to be the best Reyna player? and if you’re saying that this was in 2021 you do realize that even Jingg played Reyna more than a year ago

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GreyDaze

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That was 2021 Lil bro. Tenz fell off harder than my grandma down the stairs

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Vbnmcxz

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Nats fan talking about falling off anyways it seems you didn’t read properly because my answer is there. Nats won champions in 2021 and didn’t do a single thing in 2022 and now losing against team secret and struggling in emea league.

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GreyDaze

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Nats biggest rated player in lcq Lil bro and almost always best player in the lobby. Try harder next time

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Get your facts straight it was sayf not nats and even if it was nats did he do anything in 2022? If you’re talking about stats then TenZ was the highest rated player on sentinels

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GreyDaze

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Look at the rnd differential💀. Nats consistently top 10 in every regional tournament throughout 2022 while playing sentinel role. Tenz got diffed by asuna💀. Even then this argument is pointless when literally everyone and their mother knows Jing and even scream clear tenz on reyna

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Blazieboy

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This is just a stupid narrative. Just because Sentinels fell off doesn't mean Tenz fell off.

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Vbnmcxz

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What makes it worst is that he is a nats fan he should know that more than anyone

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Mako Viper

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Gekko - Saadhak

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enri

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Jett cned

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GreyDaze

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Derke clear

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gamr

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Skye is crashies not cauanzin

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GreyDaze

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Yeah u can make a case for him. I will add him there

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i think Aspas much better jet mechanically than derke

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GreyDaze

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How so? Every tournament they both have played together derke has far outperformed aspas

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dejikke

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so you think that derke outperformed aspas in champions?

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alitmanus

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Esse greydaze é o maior cuck deste o forum
o maluco é indiano e quer gozar com a pica dos europeus

cringe p crl

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dejikke

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o foda é que nem no lockin, onde o derke ganhou, ele "amassou" o aspas
pelo contrário, foi bem close mas o aspas matou ele mais

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GreyDaze

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Yes it's literally in the stats. Go and check them. Loud were way better than fnc but derke was way better than aspas

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dejikke

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i get your point, but you also gotta count the teams they played up against(SINCE THEY DIDN'T FACE EACH OTHER IN CHAMPIONS)
if we check fnatic x loud lockin final, we can see that they were pretty balanced, derke got more kills but aspas killed derke more times.

my point is that none of them have FAR outperformed each other

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GreyDaze

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Aspas was literally only +1 against derke so the h2h isn't as favored towards any player. Also we shouldn't decide who is a better player from the h2h rather than overall performance in the tourney which shows that derke had better stats in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo which is why I said derke is better than aspas

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*but that's what i said, derke had better stats on these tourneys and surely you can assume that he is better than aspas, but if you go to h2h you see that they are not that far

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GreyDaze

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It's just +1 in h2h. Inconclusive to say aspas was better than him. That's why I took overall stats into account

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dejikke

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it's inconclusive to say aspas was better than him, but you can assume that they are close

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Jeffo

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Bro said Astra: Toaster 💀
Sugarz3ro is miles ahead of any other astra player, and toaster is not top 10

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GreyDaze

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Boaster clears in terms of utility usage. If u actually watch the vods u would know. Sugarz3ro isn't as good anymore

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alitmanus

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Jett: Aspas (diffed Derke while underperforming)
Killjoy: Less
Cypher: Less
Sova: Cauanzin
Skye: Cauanzin
Viper: Saadhak

Saadhak is by far the best viper on Loud
https://i.imgur.com/4rK9lJi.png

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GreyDaze

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Alright grandpa let's get u ur meds

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alitmanus

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take out european's dick out of your mouth

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derke rent free

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alitmanus

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your best team couldnt even beat Loud at their worst map (fracture)

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GreyDaze

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Ur best team lost their best map to a team who are known for being mid on it. Hop off a Brazilian dick. I already owned u. Have some shame. Get a life

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alitmanus

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Hmm? Their best map when they play their original comp

they werent using their comp
they were trying a two controllers comp, botnatic just countered it

how am I hopping brazilian dick when I'm brazilian, fucking braindead
I bet you never even went to europe

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GreyDaze

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I dontbl even want to go to Europe. U can be Brazilian and still dick ride them like crazy which is exactly what u are doing. Loud tried something but fnc read them like a book and outplayed them

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alitmanus

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Fnc didnt read shit
the last round in icebox, Loud read Fnatic like a book and stacked exactly in the bomb they went to

they just won duels

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GreyDaze

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Omg it's almost like fnc didnt use all their utility to flush out every single loud player into isolated gunfights and destroyed them.

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Jett- Derke
Raze- Jinggg/nukkye
Neon- Victor
Yoru- fOrsaken
Phoenix- ScreaM/Sick
Reyna- No comment
Sova- Leo/Crashies
Fade- Shao
KAYO- Zyppan
Skye- Cloud
Breach- stax
Gekko(early)- Cloud
KJ- Suygetsu
Cypher- nats
Chamber- yay
Sage- Mazino
Astra/Omen- MaKo
Brim- Boaster
Viper- nAts
Harbor(early)- Tuyz

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BeKind

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Neon? Rb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor

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The fact that cloud has shown the best Gekko performance so far needs to be more acknowledged

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yoru cNed

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Reyna = ScreaM

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viper is between suygetsu and less. id give a slight edge to suygetsu when it comes to raw firepower but less consistently performs on viper and rarely has bad games, compared to suygetsu who has a higher peak but also can have awful games if hes not on that day

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Kingg in all agents being IGL >>>>>>

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vetements

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Cypher - BabyJ
Killjoy - BabyJ

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vipermommydomme

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Sova - hiko
Sova - hiko
Sova - hiko
Sova - hiko
Sova - hiko

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BabyJ is the best sentinel itw

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Mako should be on there for astra and viper