Sao Paulo Tierlist with reasoning

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S-Tier :- NAVI = DRX ; LAN proven and NAVI is FPX just +cNed - Ardiis

A-Tier :- LOUD and NRG could be S-Tier but depends on how they perform losing their 2 key players. Judging on 100T's recent performance they can be S tier but still not LAN proven so.
LOUD > NRG> 100T >= FNC = SEN = c9 = TL = PRX
All these teams have massive firepower and can actually defeat S tier teams but 100T has the edge over all A tier teams because 100T as a team was formed much before franchising roster moves. PRX can be S-Tier/B-Tier but that depends on their form.

B-Tier:- VIT = KC = LEV = Zeta = GIANTS
Solid B-Tier teams with some well known and star players like scream, nukkeye, Cloud, Twisten, Taco King, Laz, sheydos

C-Tier:- KOI = Heretics = TaloN = GenG >= T1= GE
KOI and Heretics have the potential to be B-Tier and Talon just hardstuck but pati is back tho.
GenG is ok but not expected to do any serious damage (It's like Hi I'm there too).
T1 and GE are unproven and experimental teams with 4 to 5 duelists players on their team and have potential to go Berserk and defeat all A tier teams or just Flop as Bottom feeders.

D-Tier:- BBL, MiBr, Kru and TS
Not much hope for these teams but they can survive.

Bottom Feeders:-
RRQ can be C tier but they have Ejay as their primary duelist lol but tehbotol and fl1pzjder are LAN proven players so let's see.
Detonation gaming can turn out to be protagonist of the anime and surprise and do some serious damage but as of now they look mehh. Seoldam take my energy I guess.
FUT just mehh
Furia not yet confirmed their roster so Idk
RRQ>> DFM = FUT (FURIA)

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stopped reading at Adi69LassiSeller

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Adi69LassiSeller

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I mean "Adi69LassiSeller" is a creative name unlike a Normie who calls himself/herself Qwertyy.

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DELUSIONAL_POTTER_FAN

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🐔 :angry: where's eg

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Solid B 🐓🐓🐓. I fucked up logos 💀

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Man puts KOI in C tier

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trollmain detected opinion rejected

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Adi69LassiSeller

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LazeraSG using my signature phrases against me. 🪞Nt

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how many tier list post we need

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Ryuji

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L list

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PickledMuffin

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why is c9 high up after losing scrims against G2 and toast’s team

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Because of their Firepower and players like Leaf and yay, Lan proven duelists. Vanity and Zellsus international LAN proven , ex V1 players. Xeppa is a different beast on his best days.

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let's be honest here how is secret below GE in this list same with KRU, in the recent redbull tournament KRU defeated TL 2-0 although the games were close, in no way you can put KRU and Secret in 'd' tier below teams like GE with players lacking the LAN exp. You justified half of your team placements in this tierlist purely based on "the potential" of players what about their past records??? like you aren't going to give merit to what they already achieved.

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I placed proven teams based on their past and unproven and newly formed teams based on their potential but everyone knows TS is just washed in 2023. When was the last time Secret made it out of groups? Or qualified for LAN? Bleed can easily defeat Secret and Secret and GenG lacks firepower. I placed GE and T1 based on their potential because they have 4 DUELIST players and haven't figured roles yet but they can take down teams in BF solely by their Firepower itself.

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Ur boy skrossi getting benched 💀

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Adi69LassiSeller

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I have NRG flair
You need 👓 ??

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Nezko_

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common neet aspirant W

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🤡

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gordonramsay

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Why u not supporting indian goat skrossi

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Blanc_cataloq

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Stinky tier list 🤧

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Stinky >> unhealthy indomie with preservatives

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indomie >>> healthy Pani puri with stinky hands

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Bro upvoted himself, ggs nothing more to talk/argue or debate.

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no1haterbutloveyou2

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garbage list, asia owns all, all asia s tiers

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"100t not lan proven"

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patuj

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They really aren't though. Will was their best performing player in Champions. Will, the guy who got booted of the team. Cryo is lan proven, but rest not so much. Both Asuna and Derrek looked pretty bad. Bang had his moments, but was by no means top controller. And Stellar performed like expected. People seem to forget that 100T didn't have amazing Champions and there was pretty noticable difference between their level and DRX's and Fnatic's. Especially outside of Pearl.

and I don't count RedBull because completely different stakes and level of play

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Bang lan proven? . I told 100T as a team

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OnlyOneStar

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I agree

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I know T1 is kinda unproven rn with no pre season turney and role uncertainty, but I'd put them at least B tier for now. For someone that mainly watch Pacific instead of western teams due to timezone reason, the firepower of this T1 roster is close to PRX level. Definitely a contender for top 3 Pacific teams to go into future international tournament.

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i’m just worried about carpe tbh

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Yea the one of the reasons I have them mid table for the first split

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Zeta B lmaoo

Asia/South America teams are so overrated, EMEA gonna shit on them so badly, and the world will finally see that we deserved much more than 3 miserable slots

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Warlordwibz

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typical privilege seeking elitist who wants hierarchy and doesn't like being treated equal as others.

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?

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Olofboost

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It's about merit. Europe has shown multiple times it deserves much more slots than everyone else.

Are FIFA also elitist for giving Europe 13 slots at World Cup and Asia only 4/5? Do you understand what quota means?

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Valorant is great because all regions are treated equally not neglectfully. This is like the Americas franchise drama where NA teams gets equal 5 slots to the 5 SA teams counterpart complaining about their privilege "Merit" 7-3 ratio. Taking extra slot from others would create unequal opportunity of growth and would led to minor region due to unfair treatment.

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Olofboost

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Have you compared Europe/EMEA server/ranked population to Japan server/ranked population? If Japan has 1 slot, Europe should have at least 5

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bro just india s population is double than europe
we have china too
that means we should have 100 slots

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Olofboost

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India big population doesn't correspond to their server population.

I know that EMEA server population is like 5-10 times bigger than Japanese one.

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Nezko_

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WHAT?
bruh valorant is one of the biggest pc esport here in india
pretty sure more players than eu LMAO what are your sources lil bro XD
also why tf are u comparing whole regions population with 1 country?

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Olofboost

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It doesn't have more playerbase than EU. Not even close.

I can't link my sources, but I remember seeing something like EMEA having almost 2x of ranked playerbase of APAC.

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Nezko_

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Yeah no wonder "remember" don't post takes based on what you think could be the case

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18/10/2022 Patch Notes 5.08

We agree with feedback that in some regions there are too many players on the leaderboard, and after a certain number leaderboard rank loses a lot of its luster. We are rolling out a cap to the amount of players that can appear on the leaderboard on a region-by-region basis.

KR - 5k
NA - 10k
AP - 15k
EU - 15k

AP = EU 15k
Pacific KR + AP (20k) > EMEA (15k)

edit: Wait till China player base gets added too ya?

continue thread →

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Anime fans gonna report ban you under Racism/Discrimination. Edit fast and save your account.

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gordonramsay

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Nah EU so overrated. When you guys still remain the same after these franchise super team moves you will see again

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Hynix

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Yes, Zeta is overrated on this list. But DRX and PRX aren't (in terms of Asia).

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xD is all I have to say atp

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Loud at top of A doesn't make sense. Tuyz and cauanzin are both inexperienced. Even if the core is the same,loud is bottom of A and definitely below fnc and tl. Koi is high b tier or low A. They have 4 proven lan players and is 4th best team from emea Kc is the worst team in emea franchise apart from Turkish teams. They are d tier lmao. Zeta is like low b or high c

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Fichy

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¿Is this tier list for valorant or fortnite? Wtf men

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Adi69LassiSeller

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TierList for babaji mobael

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Loud clears

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Dokka

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KOI C tier is wild

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they might be 7th of emea tho, its not all bad.

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Dokka

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top 4 emea

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im curious which 3 teams are better than koi

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Liquid NAVI fnatic

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thanks for making RRQ the best bottom feeders, atleast they best at something

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Brah 💀🥹

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SamBR

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kind agree
Let's see after VCT start
Hope Loud play well

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Flyjin

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DRX literally beat FPX 4-0 at champs but you put them as equal 😂

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Because cned>ardiis at oping

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Adi69LassiSeller

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How many times DRX defeat optic? Yes
Fpx beat Optic? Yes

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Where is EG

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HockeyStick

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Hello troll main

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Adi69LassiSeller

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👯 Hi HockeyStick 👯

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LEV owns all those B tier teams and half of A tier teams, i'm tired of people still underrating them

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Bruh adverso and melser left , keznit is struggling and there are original Lev players shy king and taco. I'm fairly rating them as they did not stick to their old roster.

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they have an all star latam team, kaznit is an upgrade from adverso, as well as Mazino. Nozwer is pretty good too, on melser level i'd say. If anything LEV is better now than ever.

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KC and VIT B tier hahhhahhahahahhaa

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🗿

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Swap VIT with KOI and u can't place KC at B-tier just because of scream, from their roster its like C or even D tier. GIA has big probability to defeat A-tier team