Portuguese VRL

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https://twitter.com/Valorant_PT/status/1584892541446475778

Ig there will be an Italian one too, honest question for Italian and Portuguese people, how do you feel about this

Edit: Nutable you’re not welcome thanks

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I'm neither PT nor IT, but I really like it
this probably can boost the amount of Italian and Portuguese players into the scene (we have so many few for now)

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There’s actually many pt players, they’re really really good and I obviously agree on that part, but there is also many of them losing their jobs cause they do not work as regional players in Spain.

Let’s be honest, there’s not gonna be 10 decent Italian and Portuguese orgs nor 50 top players cause foreigners hardly are gonna want to play there

So genuinely wondering to what point this is good

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I think that we can have revelations more frequently, and the ascension series are going to give experiences to new players to grow fast

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Revelations how tho, teams are gonna play against each other, some might not even have an org, 500 people is gonna watch it and then the winner is gonna flop in ascension cause let’s be honest there’s not 5 Portuguese superstars, just like there aren’t 5 Spanish superstars or whatever and good foreign players are not gonna want to go play to pt due to the lack of investement

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mORTYYYY

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There isnt? Arroz wins vs any spanish team, including Case. (check crossfire cup)

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Dude Arroz is great but this is off season my friend, KOI almost places dead last during the regular season and most of the players knew they were already out, same for UCAM. And I'm not taking merit away from Arroz they are amazing rn and probably better than all the spanish teams rn but you can't base the level of a region on an off season tournament.

Case roster did not work but it was newly formed, on paper the roster was insane

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they got there in league so i guess they can get there in val too hopefully

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Mortadelo

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With time sure, but this does not benefit their already top players, clear example is Rebels for example, whole roster out cause they don’t meet conditions anymore and they are definitely not gonna find better teamates than Vokashu and Gatsh and a better project.

Heartbeat out too and Case had a true superteam contender to win but not anymore, many more cases of this happening and good players losing opportunities, for sure this is good for average pro’s but not for the good ones imo

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it definitely hurts superteams for ascension but I mean case could have kept hearthbeat and dropped others for spanish players, but ultimately if he is good enough he can play for a team not in italy vcl

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Rich Spanish orgs being forced to sign weak Spanish players, while talented Portuguese players have to play in a new league with probably no orgs investing in it. Sounds smart!

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That’s what I’m saying, does that really benefit Portuguese players? I feel like the answer is, for most of the good ones no, it does not help them at all, for average pro’s that still need to grow yes

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how do you feel about this

starts an argument

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Mortadelo

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So if I ask for someone’s opinion I can’t give mine back, yeah very smart, I’m sorry I’m not doing this ticking shit again. Fixed the post

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here's the edit you can do:
DISCLAIMER: IF YOUR OPINION ISN'T EXACTLY THE SAME AS MINE IM GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU UNTIL YOU EITHER GIVE UP OR I CAN WRITE YOU OFF AS AN IMBECILE SO I CAN CONTINUE ON WITH MY SUPERIORITY COMPLEX. YOUR POINT OF VIEW WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

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Just told you I'm not doing this again, it's been like 10 times. I have tried to make peace and you don't want to so just go ahead and talk all the shit you want and lmk when you're done so I can make you look like an imbecile even tho I have a feeling I won't need much help

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I'm done, hurry up and make me look like an imbecile with your excellent powers of persuasion

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Mortadelo

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I'm glad you think my argumentation are excellent, I'm flattered now

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Avian

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I like the leagues, but I'm sure riot can open them up to more players, & I'm sure eventually players/friends on their own will play as 5 & start getting better (or maybe riot should reserve some slots for full IT/PT teams?)

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way too many leagues. would benefit orgs and t2 if there was 1 centralised t2 league

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nutab1e

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is that not what ascension is?

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yes?
but like you didnt split NA up into west coast, each coast...

I think having 4 emea groups instead would benefit players

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nutab1e

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4 does seem like a reasonable number imo

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Its shit

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ozzy

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yeh but how braindead is it to split italy/spain/portugal?

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FoechiGG

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Rito what ya expect

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If you were affected for it how would you feel about it

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mORTYYYY

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Its LVP fault. They monopolized a 3 country VRL into spanish teams only. Riot solved the problem.

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Mortadelo

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Yeah fair enough, but being honest Spanish orgs did pretty well at picking up players judging their level and not just getting them cause they were spanish, other than Bisons/ Betis which is true were full spanish there was as many spanish players as Portuguese ones

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mORTYYYY

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I mean, thats true, but not fully PT or IT teams. As an example, the old SAW roster would win VRL.

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Mortadelo

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Well, Tier 3 league Circuito Tormenta was open to everyone and yes Bisons did make a full Spanish roster first split but after that they descended and only who ever deserved it most (Winning tier 3 league) got the spot, and if it was Betis and now KPI is because they were better or Pt teams decided to take different routes

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im diamond from portugal.
do i have a chance?

hahahahahahahahhaa

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Shakejum

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I'm Diamond from Brasil together we are a imortal player

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joellogic

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nice bro. we can queue together.
the ping will be awesome

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minte

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Sweden population > Portugal population

Portugal get their own VRL
Sweden play with Finland, Norway, Denmark, United Kingdom, Ireland (almost 100M population total)

gj rito

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It's playing population, not actual population.

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Mortadelo

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There was almost as many Polish players in Spanish VRL as Spanish players but East is like 50 countries

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minte

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Well yeah, but, so?

I find it very hard to believe that the playing population in Portugal only is similar to the playing population in Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Iceland combined. Portugal having their own is OK if they split up UK+Ire+Ice and Scandinavia+Finland into two separate, or just keep ES-PT-IT

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TMosura

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I honestly think Riot is emulating the ERLs from League.

ERLs in League of Legends:

Balkans
France
DACH
Poland
Spain
Northern Europe (UK/Nordics)
Baltic
Belgium
Netherlands
Czechia and Slovakia
Greece
Italy
Portugal

Compare it to what we have so far:

France and Benelux
Spain
Italy
Portugal
DACH
Northern Europe
Eastern Europe
Turkey
MENA

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minte

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Well probably, but I still don't see why UK+Nordics is still a combination that's made since it's literally nearly 100 million residents, with a very significant internet usage and large % of people who play video games, especially FPS shooters, like Val. I have no statistics on player # for Val

But Portugal still get their own?

Riot is eliminating the potential for Nordic players and UK+IRE players visibility in the regional leagues, and that's what I can't wrap my head around

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I don't get your complain tho, I feel like a Swedish VRL wouldn't be a good thing for most Swedish players, maybe for the lower tier ones but being regional player in what's gonna most likely be the 1/2 strongest VRL is a great advantage

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It is horribly unbalanced, East and Nordics are just way bigger than anything else, population and player wise. I really don't understand the criteria here