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Bias in Achillios/Paperthin casting

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#1
leafdagoat

To clarify this is not a "FIRE THESE 2 PACIFIC CASTERS IMMEDIATELY" typa post

I normally don't really care about casters but i decided to randomly concentrate heavily on the casters during the PRX and FNC match and notice holy hell these casters are biased AF. Now obviously on a surface level u dont feel that but let me explain

Achillios isn't too biased, in fact he actually does hype up the opponents of pacific teams when such moments do arrive but he definitely does hype the pacific teams way harder.

Paperthin tho is like megabiased like on par with Pansy & Fnatic levels, every time PRX loses a round or almost threw a round especially bind, he would flame tf outta them "This isn't the PRX im used to seeing" "im baffled by PRX's attempts at....". Also every time Fnatic outplay PRX hes just in shock, like he just says "ooOOOOOOOhhh" and thats it and Achilios would be the hypeman, he's suppose to follow up but his follow up is so weak coz he always sound so exhausted when glazing the opposing team lol

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delighted
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quack and komodo should've been casting champs but riot are actually pea brained

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Tempest24
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I asked komodo on his stream abt this once and he just ignored me am I thinking too deep or is there something behind this

#27
Tempest24
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b-but something is in Paris how can ge be behind this

#28
Tempest24
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who's in Paris?

#29
Ch1llin
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dementia at it's finest

#30
MrBlooBloom
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gollum type shit

#35
Tempest24
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I think you are unaware of the kanye West and jay z song

#36
Komodo
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My bad missing the message in stream mate!
I'm the new kid on the block to Pacific. I've got a while to go to even get a (potential) Master first.
I won't get the opportunity of a Champions this quick haha.

#38
Ductorian
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hi komodo ur awesome!!

#39
justachillmf
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hope u get it next year man!

u killed it all year ♥️

#42
Tempest24
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im sure u get into events next year
imo second best caster analyst only after the bald British bloke

#43
Tempest24
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also ur team-mates were stressing u out in ur game i can understand missing the comment in chat

#37
archetype
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quack is ass never say this shit again twin

#40
justachillmf
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with komodo he's a decent caster and he isn't biased

#48
archetype
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he is pretty biased dawg and his forced "cool caster lines" are so corny too

komodo is great tho

#3
CJYman
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paperthin always says ooOOOOOOOhhh in almost every single insane play ngl

#4
wholesomeplayer99
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both trash casters

#50
Goatfnc
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Laughs in fraudshow and brendead

#5
DSBY
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Pansy and EMEA type shit

#20
Sky1k
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Pansy slander will not be tolerated!!!

#24
DSBY
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where tf is the slander? its just the truth

#21
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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pansy is known as a big NA fan

#6
pitchfork
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agree abt paperthin his casting is weak compared to achilios

#7
fr0ster0p
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there is allways some little bias for their region for every caster i think it make fun to watch if like you are FNC fan you hear cster crumble and if prx fan sad with them

#10
nightwinter14
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Americas casters don’t gaf about their region ngl

#8
N1TF
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Achilios and Komodo will make a great duo

#9
delighted
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incredibly common sleepingsnorlax W

#53
ninjaturtle
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We have seen them cast several games in Pacific and other events together, and they were amazing.

#11
Warlordwibz
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Pansy - EMEA bias
Sideshow - Americas bias
Someone gotta be bias for pacific...

Achilios and paperthin are the only casters invited to internationals from pacific, some internationals can involve 2 pairs of EMEA/Americas but pacific only have them for internationals. Jenn & Mika are interviewers.

#12
nightwinter14
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Sideshow ain’t even biased for Americas, although the desk is definitely biased towards Americas

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delighted
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sideshow is biased for americas he just doesn't show that in the official broadcast

#15
nightwinter14
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I mean of course and I have no problem with anyone having a bias off broadcast, but my problem is when some of the other caster DO show their bias on broadcast. It is incredibly frustrating when casters hyperfocus on a teams mistakes saying stuff like “they don’t do this domestically”, when they aren’t pointed out what the other team is doing right. Like no shit your team isn’t playing the same, it’s higher stakes

#16
delighted
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remember that there are only 3 international events and for the most of vct the casters are casting the regional leagues

#18
nightwinter14
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There’s even less internationals in esports like LoL, and their casters are required to do a ton of research on each team they cast (even for shit regions that don’t make it far). No clue why Valorant casters don’t do the same amount of analysis on every team

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MrBlooBloom
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i think the esport is just not experienced enough. Keep in mind it has only existed for 5 years, and this is franchising's third year. Most of these casters already have experience but alot of the people on the desk don't have as much experience and it shows. Things will change with time, and they are getting better (esepcially in emea since they've brought Hazza and Kairo as well as mini on the desk)

#13
koogaS
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achilios a good caster but paperthin is assssssss

#17
Agx192
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I think achilios shows his bias intentionally in between rounds when he is trying to fill the gaps if nothing is happening but during the rounds his hype and casting is the same for every team

#19
MrBlooBloom
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I mean PRX were playing horribly compared to usual so what do you want him to say

#23
Jivko
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Achilios is actually one of if not the best caster in terms of hyping up plays (not pacific ones only).

On the other hand I agree that Paperthin is a mid and biased caster

#25
bobosian
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but when pansy or sideshow shows bais towards their favourite region they dont get hate

#31
MrBlooBloom
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hmm not true really. And I'd say that clownshow doesn't show his biases too much when casting

#33
1One1
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Wheh he cast apac vs other region, you can see his bias favor other region

#34
bobosian
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oh no u can def tell he more bais toward any other region than pac

#45
hehe444
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sideshow is good & not bais. but most of american casts are shit and bais

#32
aexbigb0t
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"This isn't the PRX im used to seeing", like he's not wrong, everyone on PRX was whiffing their shots.

#41
Bangpong
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https://www.vlr.gg/558423/if-we-lose-i-will-leave-this-site-forever
What happened to ts? Actually shameless

#44
cirruss
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i don't really notice the bias (or really care that much) especially about lines like "i'm not used to seeing this from x team or whatever" etc. with the example of PRX, they are the defending international winners and just won pacific so commenting that their form is off or whatever it may be is fine personally. you can call it unnecessary which i won't argue against. i will say that achilios is a much better caster than paperthin though, he is the worst color caster in VCT by far, especially at internationals.

#46
hehe444
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come on bro why people saying sideshow bais? he is only bais on platchat not in casting. he is one best casters spiiting correct fact. you can see high skill diff with sideshow vs other american casters which is shit.

#47
CatEffect2
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"This isn't the PRX I'm used to seeing." Cuz it's true? PRX were playing like ass that day, whiffing shots in almost every clutch. And for people saying Sideshow is America-biased, he's fine, cuz he hasn’t shown it on the broadcast at all.

#49
TheAshenOne
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They were just playing against the better team

#51
sh1lll
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first prx was making mistakes in their game so hes more then okay to critize it

even then if hes bias why are you shocked hes an APAC caster he'll obv be more critical negative or positive then if its for americas china or emea.

and for me atleast its extremely hard to detect bias in the casting

#52
Effluxi
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casters like their home region, real news at 10

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