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#1
ATBSniper

Emea is the worst region atm. It’s the least competitive and it has been like this for so long. They rely on superteams to win. Did manage to find success w fnatic but it’s been downhill since.

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Asia is rolling everyone over and probably will for like 2-3 years until some absolute wonderkid from the west pops up

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ATBSniper
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MrHyphon [#2]

Asia is rolling everyone over and probably will for like 2-3 years until some absolute wonderkid from the west pops up

Region monopoly is never entertaining. I hope the west picks up their game so it’s still competitive n viewership doesn’t drop

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MrHyphon [#2]

Asia is rolling everyone over and probably will for like 2-3 years until some absolute wonderkid from the west pops up

I mean not really, its more a group of 4 or 5 teams who are just clearly better than the rest and no one can really compete with them.

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ATBSniper [#3]

Region monopoly is never entertaining. I hope the west picks up their game so it’s still competitive n viewership doesn’t drop

G2 just needs to play more Deadlock and T1 should choke in order for that to happen

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MrHyphon [#2]

Asia is rolling everyone over and probably will for like 2-3 years until some absolute wonderkid from the west pops up

asia barely wins a few grand finals and this is the shit we're getting 😭

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Eh this is completely ignoring the fact that TH ended up second in shanghai and seoul and they were be no means a super team. EMEA looked better than NA for two thirds of 2024

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uwukitten [#6]

asia barely wins a few grand finals and this is the shit we're getting 😭

Last time the west won a grand final Woot was ineligible to play vct and fucking curry was the sixth man of sentinels😭

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nah its still china. edg is still has a huge monopoly in that region. tho give it 2-3 years and memea will be the worst.

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delighted [#5]

G2 just needs to play more Deadlock and T1 should choke in order for that to happen

they got anderzz who might convince them into deadlock stuff

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MrHyphon [#8]

Last time the west won a grand final Woot was ineligible to play vct and fucking curry was the sixth man of sentinels😭

NA won last year bro. We should be worried about EMEA

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CN > KR > AMER > APAC (excluding KR) >>> EMEA

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ATBSniper
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Yuniee44 [#7]

Eh this is completely ignoring the fact that TH ended up second in shanghai and seoul and they were be no means a super team. EMEA looked better than NA for two thirds of 2024

TH had a fluke run still couldn’t win anything. The same roster is not even top 3 in their region anymore

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fanofzmjjkk [#12]

CN > KR > AMER > APAC (excluding KR) >>> EMEA

Why is CN at first

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ATBSniper [#13]

TH had a fluke run still couldn’t win anything. The same roster is not even top 3 in their region anymore

ah yes 3rd place isn't top 3 LMFAO

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Idk, it's hard for me to compare regions without h2h matchups. But based on Bangkok, all the regions' top teams are pretty even.

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ATBSniper [#14]

Why is CN at first

Current champs winner
Might change if CN loses this year but objectively the best today

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MrHyphon
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Yuniee44 [#7]

Eh this is completely ignoring the fact that TH ended up second in shanghai and seoul and they were be no means a super team. EMEA looked better than NA for two thirds of 2024

Wow. Let’s give Th the second place trophy!

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ATBSniper [#14]

Why is CN at first

their name might give you a clue

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ATBSniper
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229fn [#15]

ah yes 3rd place isn't top 3 LMFAO

Vit
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BBL/Fnatic
TH had a easy run in kickoff which got them the 3rd place

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229fn [#15]

ah yes 3rd place isn't top 3 LMFAO

That's just a testament to how bad EMEA has been though, like Heretics this year has not performed at nearly as high of a level as last year and somehow they placed 3rd.

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ATBSniper
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Yistyy [#16]

Idk, it's hard for me to compare regions without h2h matchups. But based on Bangkok, all the regions' top teams are pretty even.

You don’t judge entire region on outliers

#23
MrHyphon
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ATBSniper [#20]

Vit
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BBL/Fnatic
TH had a easy run in kickoff which got them the 3rd place

Who brought BBL to lowers?

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229fn [#15]

ah yes 3rd place isn't top 3 LMFAO

they faced gentlemates and bbl with a sub. they are not one of the top 3 best teams in emea

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MrHyphon
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ATBSniper [#22]

You don’t judge entire region on outliers

That’s a stupid statement considering the two top teams went to Bangkok from every region

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Yistyy
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ATBSniper [#22]

You don’t judge entire region on outliers

maybe but i said specifically that the top teams in particular were even. it's harder for me to gauge the rest.

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ATBSniper
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MrHyphon [#25]

That’s a stupid statement considering the two top teams went to Bangkok from every region

Alright then let’s not flame CN anymore for having one good team n actually put respect to the region.

#28
ConsistentCycles
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if you only count the top tier teams who can win a tournament i agree. But the general level of emea is about equal to the average of the other regions. Like liquid were better than sen at bangkok

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m0rtem [#9]

nah its still china. edg is still has a huge monopoly in that region. tho give it 2-3 years and memea will be the worst.

dw the reason it's emea because china is not considered as an actual vct league

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xineFso [#29]

dw the reason it's emea because china is not considered as an actual vct league

in that case ya emea is the worst shit I have ever seen in my life.

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delighted
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catNmouse [#10]

they got anderzz who might convince them into deadlock stuff

ok

but the question is

who will choke harder
G2 or T1

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Yistyy [#16]

Idk, it's hard for me to compare regions without h2h matchups. But based on Bangkok, all the regions' top teams are pretty even.

based on bangkok vitality got rocked no?

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delighted [#31]

ok

but the question is

who will choke harder
G2 or T1

the pressure of being back to back champions will affect T1 so ima go with them, both teams will have a choke off though

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catNmouse [#33]

the pressure of being back to back champions will affect T1 so ima go with them, both teams will have a choke off though

G2 vs T1 grand final REMATCH + choke off

all of us will be there

#35
iplayval
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I think if you ranked all teams in 4 regions you’d have to put almost all of emea in top 30. as a region its the most competitive because any team can beat any other team. Except for apeks of course. Other regions have at least 3 teams that everyone knows aren’t very good at the moment

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saebr [#32]

based on bangkok vitality got rocked no?

they were pretty good in groups. i think in playoffs trexx and sayf had different philosophical views on how the game should be played which caused them to play poorly against t1.

also i thought tl was pretty solid in bangkok as well.

#37
swerdog
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Im sorry but the bottom 6 in EMEA play some truly awful valorant and would get rolled by everyone in APAC and Americas except secret/zeta/2g/furia

#38
SleepingSnorlax
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Emea is the ultimate glue even the best team looks worst

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MrHyphon [#18]

Wow. Let’s give Th the second place trophy!

Hardly the point lol. If you wanna ignore all second places its been over a year since americas did anything either

#40
Wolfed
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You’re all acting like AMER isnt a 1 team region
AMER = CN

#41
Anguibok
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EMEA is the worst region in term of gameplan, but they compensate with firepower

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neuroniumtwistanium
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MrHyphon [#23]

Who brought BBL to lowers?

I don't claim him as someone from my country

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