Which 2 orgs would you remove from each region

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Aayan

Given that it's a possibility that Riot will remove some 'partnered' slots from their franchise system in 2027, which orgs do you think will be removed in each region?
(Assume it's 8 partnered and 4 ascension for the purpose of this post)

I would do something like this:

EMEA:
-GX
-NAVI (Then implement a tier 2 CIS league)

AMER:
-C9
-FUR/MIBR

APAC:
-PRX (might be a hot take, but speaking purely from an org standpoint they're very small)
-DFM/ZETA (I love tuning in to VCLJP every now and again, but I think there's just not enough talent at the moment to justify 2 tier one slots)

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ergerg

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G2, GE, TE, FNC
SEN, DRX, FPX, VITALITY

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delighted

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EMEA:
GX
NAVI

AMER:
C9
FUR

PAC:
ZETA
GE

CN:
JDG
WOL (bro no one wants an actual sports organization to own an E-SPORTS TEAM ffs)

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MassterBaiter

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Americas: MiBR, EG
EMEA: GiantX, Navi
APAC: GE, Zeta

These orgs have only done disservice to their own fan bases

#5

XanXanUk

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How do you guys judge who to get removed? Purely by roster results?

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Notbaka

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GE if removed will be replaced by an Indian org fosho

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cxrsedval

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Americas: Cloud9, Mibr/Furia
EMEA: Apeks, GiantX
PAC: GE, Secret
CN: All Gamers, NOVA

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DrudaL

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Americas: SEN, G2
EMEA: FNC, VIT
CN: EDG, BLG
Pacific: T1, PRX

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sussybaka

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sentiluls, clown9, n0vi, lulquid, g0ng, truck1

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cameran

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Eg + kru or c9
tl + gx or koi
Ge and zeta or team secret or drx maybe
all gamers and titan esports

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cyk

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Tyloo AG, C9 Furia, RRQ GE, KOI Giant

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supr

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GE needs to be gone so an actual indian org can finally give india a chance. fraud ass CEO

#13

Aayan

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XanXanUk [#5]

How do you guys judge who to get removed? Purely by roster results?

We don't have the full story as an audience, but I'm trying to go off of mainly how their management has been. But also things like how much success they've had, how much they lean in to the content side of things, how much money they've invested etc etc, basically the things Riot were looking for in 2023 when they were initially signing the partner deals

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Aayan

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cxrsedval [#7]

Americas: Cloud9, Mibr/Furia
EMEA: Apeks, GiantX
PAC: GE, Secret
CN: All Gamers, NOVA

Apeks are an ascension team

also why Secret? They're a decently big and stable org

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cxrsedval

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Aayan [#14]

Apeks are an ascension team

also why Secret? They're a decently big and stable org

secret are always shit in pac and literally nepotism roster

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GodAwfulGod

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EMEA:
GX
Koi

AMER:
NRG/EG
FUR

PAC:
ZETA
TS (I love TS but with how bad and disappointing they have consistently been, I think they're more likely to be removed than GE)

CN:
JDG
AG

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SleepingSnorlax

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supr [#12]

GE needs to be gone so an actual indian org can finally give india a chance. fraud ass CEO

Already enough chances given man when the talent is shit what do you expect from the org even they are actually trying this time going all out with the coaches and players

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delighted

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cxrsedval [#15]

secret are always shit in pac and literally nepotism roster

Secret are a mid table team lmao, if anything, GE is a bottom table team

GE fucked up the roles again

And ur also forgetting BOOM, they have the weakest Pacific roster on paper

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Vaaero

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sussybaka [#9]

sentiluls, clown9, n0vi, lulquid, g0ng, truck1

Trying to get rid of the Korean competition for DRX?

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cxrsedval

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delighted [#18]

Secret are a mid table team lmao, if anything, GE is a bottom table team

GE fucked up the roles again

And ur also forgetting BOOM, they have the weakest Pacific roster on paper

i mean boom just came into franchising so like i wont count them out yet but secret and global been here for years and havent done shit

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CHEEEZPUFZEZ

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delighted [#3]

EMEA:
GX
NAVI

AMER:
C9
FUR

PAC:
ZETA
GE

CN:
JDG
WOL (bro no one wants an actual sports organization to own an E-SPORTS TEAM ffs)

How dare you slander wolverhampton

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CHEEEZPUFZEZ

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delighted [#3]

EMEA:
GX
NAVI

AMER:
C9
FUR

PAC:
ZETA
GE

CN:
JDG
WOL (bro no one wants an actual sports organization to own an E-SPORTS TEAM ffs)

How dare you slander wolverhampton

#23

jdsfalsnfkls

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MassterBaiter [#4]

Americas: MiBR, EG
EMEA: GiantX, Navi
APAC: GE, Zeta

These orgs have only done disservice to their own fan bases

Why MiBr, surely C9 for everything they have done

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Aayan

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cameran [#10]

Eg + kru or c9
tl + gx or koi
Ge and zeta or team secret or drx maybe
all gamers and titan esports

how come TL

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euphoria_

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Americas:
l0ud
nrg

EMEA:
t0am v0tal0ty
fut gaming
bbl gaming
g0ant gaming
moviestar k0i

Trashific:
worst country itw team (u know who)
t00l0n
RRQ000

CHINA "REGION":
entire "region"

this is not counting the trash from ascension

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euphoria_

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Vaaero [#19]

Trying to get rid of the Korean competition for DRX?

bro gotta cry somewhere after his team shit the bed at bangkok

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AVIRGOMEN

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delighted [#18]

Secret are a mid table team lmao, if anything, GE is a bottom table team

GE fucked up the roles again

And ur also forgetting BOOM, they have the weakest Pacific roster on paper

GE fucked up the roles again?

Oh sorry, Mister "Coach" with years of experience, Sorry juvenile the head coach doesn't have more brain than you do.

Fucked up roles, A Guy who plays Duelist can play the Best sentinal role too, PatrickWHO was 30+ every fucking game in his 6 months of career in PRO, this guy literally just started playing a year ago and Already went pro.

Within 6 months of his pro career, go ahead and take a look at why he's the lead duelist. That guy destroyed the whole pH scene alone. By far the best duelist in PH and Chances are if he can get comfortable in T1 he WILL be one of the top duelists in APAC

Now what else, Kr1stal not IGLing?

KellyS Does great micromanaging which Kr1stal does not, Kr1stal can focus more on his Gameplay and play more harder, His performance even with IGLing was great imagine with little calls.

KellyS was IGL because Juveline prefers micro managing calls more, which is the best thing a IGL can do.

What else? You keep shitting on GE, as if you've got nothing better to do. Love to see you whine and cry

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Bigfish

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Amer: c9 eg/lev

Emea: Koi / GX

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Hobbit

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eg, furia, gx, bbl, ge

i dont think that anyone else in apac should get removed

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GruntCrab

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AMER: EG, NRG
CN: AG, TYL,
EMEA: KOI
PAC: None

#31

wagonVAL

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Clown 9 & EG
AG
koi GiantX
Team shitcret and gl0b0l fucking failures

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saakkai

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G2

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glittering_yard

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why MIBR? :(

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kfan4238173

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if i had to choose two

emea: heretics, koi
amer: loud, eg
apac: dfm, global
cn: idk bro

#35

LokiFc

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g2 100t (fk other regions)

#36

Congo1

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GX & FUT (team cam play for another org)

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Perc31

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C9 and EG/LEV
KOI and APKS
GE and BLD
AG and JDG

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Disastered

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cxrsedval [#20]

i mean boom just came into franchising so like i wont count them out yet but secret and global been here for years and havent done shit

GET OUT

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cxrsedval

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AVIRGOMEN [#27]

GE fucked up the roles again?

Oh sorry, Mister "Coach" with years of experience, Sorry juvenile the head coach doesn't have more brain than you do.

Fucked up roles, A Guy who plays Duelist can play the Best sentinal role too, PatrickWHO was 30+ every fucking game in his 6 months of career in PRO, this guy literally just started playing a year ago and Already went pro.

Within 6 months of his pro career, go ahead and take a look at why he's the lead duelist. That guy destroyed the whole pH scene alone. By far the best duelist in PH and Chances are if he can get comfortable in T1 he WILL be one of the top duelists in APAC

Now what else, Kr1stal not IGLing?

KellyS Does great micromanaging which Kr1stal does not, Kr1stal can focus more on his Gameplay and play more harder, His performance even with IGLing was great imagine with little calls.

KellyS was IGL because Juveline prefers micro managing calls more, which is the best thing a IGL can do.

What else? You keep shitting on GE, as if you've got nothing better to do. Love to see you whine and cry

global is bad lol cry about it

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XanXanUk

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Aayan [#13]

We don't have the full story as an audience, but I'm trying to go off of mainly how their management has been. But also things like how much success they've had, how much they lean in to the content side of things, how much money they've invested etc etc, basically the things Riot were looking for in 2023 when they were initially signing the partner deals

i see, thanks!
i have to say, NAVI had some S+ pieces of content like hype videos, announcment videos. The rest is not that interesting (there are exceptions), but those 2 types are the best among all VCT.
Main point: they apply good effort even though it might not be as visible and overshodowed because of results\mismanagment (i agree that trajectory of that looks terrible right now).

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XanXanUk

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XanXanUk [#40]

i see, thanks!
i have to say, NAVI had some S+ pieces of content like hype videos, announcment videos. The rest is not that interesting (there are exceptions), but those 2 types are the best among all VCT.
Main point: they apply good effort even though it might not be as visible and overshodowed because of results\mismanagment (i agree that trajectory of that looks terrible right now).

also i really don't want to be disrespectful to orgs\fans but i really see much less good stuff from some orgs like BBL, KOI, GX, Vitality. TH. Maybe it's same as why many don't see NAVI stuff - you have to follow\subscribe to them to see it.

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stargaz9r

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Americas: 2G and EG (lol)
EMEA: KOI and APEKS
APAC: ZETA and Global
CN: oh god there's like six answers, but JDG and AG. I really wish Attacking Soul Esports' full roster would have made it into franchising.

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FiredSkull

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AVIRGOMEN [#27]

GE fucked up the roles again?

Oh sorry, Mister "Coach" with years of experience, Sorry juvenile the head coach doesn't have more brain than you do.

Fucked up roles, A Guy who plays Duelist can play the Best sentinal role too, PatrickWHO was 30+ every fucking game in his 6 months of career in PRO, this guy literally just started playing a year ago and Already went pro.

Within 6 months of his pro career, go ahead and take a look at why he's the lead duelist. That guy destroyed the whole pH scene alone. By far the best duelist in PH and Chances are if he can get comfortable in T1 he WILL be one of the top duelists in APAC

Now what else, Kr1stal not IGLing?

KellyS Does great micromanaging which Kr1stal does not, Kr1stal can focus more on his Gameplay and play more harder, His performance even with IGLing was great imagine with little calls.

KellyS was IGL because Juveline prefers micro managing calls more, which is the best thing a IGL can do.

What else? You keep shitting on GE, as if you've got nothing better to do. Love to see you whine and cry

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