Who is in the GOAT discussion?

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Wolfed

Aspas, Derke, Leo, Chronicle, Sacy, and KangKang are guaranteed in the conversation

How do we feel about Meteor, Chichoo, Alfajer and Tenz?

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I'm ready for Meteor

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(S): GOAT convo: Aspas, Derke, Leo, Chronicle, Less
(A): outside GOAT convo: Alfajer, Sacy, MaKo
(B): further outside: TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk, nAts, yay, t3xture, Meteor

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the masters mvp got lower tier than MaKo is crazy

#34

sentinelmain377

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all time you illiterate idiot. bro doesnt know what "GOAT" means

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yeah of all time, but make ain’t win shit in 2021 2022 2023 or 2024. kang kang been in the scene for a year or so and has a champs already. tenz won a masters in 2021 and 2024, if you wanna talk about of “of all time”. naTs has been as consistent as maKo AND has won shit. legit everyone in the list below mako has done more internationally.

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what are chichoo and alfa doing there lol

and KangKang goat? lmao hell no

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ragebait

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Leo and Alfajer consistently topped rating charts in Lockin and Tokyo. While Chronicle is a 3 time winner and was one of the MVPs for Gambit.

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when did i mention leo or chronicle? both of those guys deserve to be in the convo but i dont think alfa should be there in my opinion.

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Alfa was sometimes fnatics best player in 2023. Unarguably at Tokyo. I don't think he's the goat, but it's unfair to say he is not up there.

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sentinelmain377

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bro doesnt know about 2022 Alfa??

clueless 2024 user. stop debating this guy

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snuck kangkang in

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Asuna (first strike MVP)

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Kangkang and Aspas shouldn't be in the conversation with only one trophy tbh

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i personally dont think throphies are everything, aspas is on MIBR of all teams and still one of the best players in AMER

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Carpe

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wait cook

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Buzz all time kill leader

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Ryandr

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Nah. Some of the most matches played too. Also it helped a lot that he was in drx.

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Meteor and Chichoo.

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meteor def up there, chichoo needs 1 more int trophy or an overall consistently insane year to be included, tenz would be the lowest ranked maybe only above sacy

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i can get behind this

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Meteor def..

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Galactc

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First 5 only everyone else is just recency bias

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KangKang rn is more of an honorable mention imo

I would put meteor and tenz over him rn

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reaper_rega08

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Chronicle
Leo
Tenz
Alfajer
Meteor
Derke
Chichoo
Sacy

#22

AltonBu02

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Bro does not fuck with Aspas

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Wolfed

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derke that low is criminal, and no aspas is even crazier

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Ryandr

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Nah derke is easily above meteor. How is Alfa above derke lol? Also sacy champs and master win also make him above meteor chichoo. And kk is above chichoo too. So much recency bias in this list. And how is aspas not even there lol.

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imo chichoo mechanically better than kk, kk is and always been the guy with the disgusting raw aim, dude tends to be shaky without teammates' competence

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wtf chichoo above sacy what in the recency bias is this
one of the best initiators for both 2022 and 2024 and the only player to win a champs and a masters
went +17 against the greatest pre-franchising team when it mattered

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MrHyphon

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Some guy said Babybay. What do we think?

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Wolfed

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it was henbabyh bro just ignore him

#28

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no hate but why is sacy rated so highly.

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Wolfed

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i agree he is not the goat, he is in the conversation because of the amount of trophies he's won on different teams

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2022 he was a fragger

2024 he lost some aim but made up for his util that enabled zekken and tenz to go kill

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nobody___100

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kangkang lmfao no
kangkang hasnt been the best even on his own team since 2023
meteor only been at the top for 1.5 years out of the game's 4.5
tenz was ass for two straight years
chichoo has potential but needs more time because goat is of all time
alfajer there is an argument but he was only dominant in 2023

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OwenCOA

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ranking based off how good they are/success

aspas (cemented)
derke (cemented)
chronicle (no recent success)
tenz (insane 2021and good 2024 but bad 2023)
leo (not his fault, was sick and hasn’t played in the past year)
kang kang (going to move up in the future)
sacy (good and consistent player but wasn’t insane)
less (never been inconsistent but no recent success)
alfajer (had a good 2023 but that’s it)
meteor (going to move up in the future)
chichoo (going to move up in the future)

if we’re talking about how iconic they are, there’s only 3 players:

tenz
aspas
kang kang

I have no idea why players like derke weren’t idolized like the other 3 but i guess it just comes down to character and fanbase

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Huuuuugo

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tenz is for being pop, the rest is for the stability of skills.

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Wolfed

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tenz is not above leo bro

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Huuuuugo

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Chichoo and Meteor

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Nothing to say besides Flyuh