Who is in the GOAT discussion?

Aspas, Derke, Leo, Chronicle, Sacy, and KangKang are guaranteed in the conversation

How do we feel about Meteor, Chichoo, Alfajer and Tenz?

I'm ready for Meteor

what are chichoo and alfa doing there lol

and KangKang goat? lmao hell no

snuck kangkang in

aquaa018s_alterego [#3]

what are chichoo and alfa doing there lol

and KangKang goat? lmao hell no

ragebait

Asuna (first strike MVP)

Kangkang and Aspas shouldn't be in the conversation with only one trophy tbh

Carpe

Buzz all time kill leader

Meteor and Chichoo.

meteor def up there, chichoo needs 1 more int trophy or an overall consistently insane year to be included, tenz would be the lowest ranked maybe only above sacy

Meteor def..

Hades_Loves_Rb [#9]

Buzz all time kill leader

Nah. Some of the most matches played too. Also it helped a lot that he was in drx.

aquaa018s_alterego [#3]

what are chichoo and alfa doing there lol

and KangKang goat? lmao hell no

Leo and Alfajer consistently topped rating charts in Lockin and Tokyo. While Chronicle is a 3 time winner and was one of the MVPs for Gambit.

HenBabyH [#8]

Carpe

wait cook

Anzaldinho [#7]

Kangkang and Aspas shouldn't be in the conversation with only one trophy tbh

i personally dont think throphies are everything, aspas is on MIBR of all teams and still one of the best players in AMER

Lidire [#11]

meteor def up there, chichoo needs 1 more int trophy or an overall consistently insane year to be included, tenz would be the lowest ranked maybe only above sacy

i can get behind this

reaper_rega08 [#14]

Leo and Alfajer consistently topped rating charts in Lockin and Tokyo. While Chronicle is a 3 time winner and was one of the MVPs for Gambit.

when did i mention leo or chronicle? both of those guys deserve to be in the convo but i dont think alfa should be there in my opinion.

First 5 only everyone else is just recency bias

KangKang rn is more of an honorable mention imo

I would put meteor and tenz over him rn

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Tenz
4. Alfajer
5. Meteor
6. Derke
7. Chichoo
8. Sacy

reaper_rega08 [#21]

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Tenz
4. Alfajer
5. Meteor
6. Derke
7. Chichoo
8. Sacy

Bro does not fuck with Aspas

reaper_rega08 [#21]

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Tenz
4. Alfajer
5. Meteor
6. Derke
7. Chichoo
8. Sacy

derke that low is criminal, and no aspas is even crazier

reaper_rega08 [#21]

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Tenz
4. Alfajer
5. Meteor
6. Derke
7. Chichoo
8. Sacy

Nah derke is easily above meteor. How is Alfa above derke lol? Also sacy champs and master win also make him above meteor chichoo. And kk is above chichoo too. So much recency bias in this list. And how is aspas not even there lol.

Some guy said Babybay. What do we think?

Ryandr [#24]

Nah derke is easily above meteor. How is Alfa above derke lol? Also sacy champs and master win also make him above meteor chichoo. And kk is above chichoo too. So much recency bias in this list. And how is aspas not even there lol.

imo chichoo mechanically better than kk, kk is and always been the guy with the disgusting raw aim, dude tends to be shaky without teammates' competence

MrHyphon [#25]

Some guy said Babybay. What do we think?

it was henbabyh bro just ignore him

no hate but why is sacy rated so highly.

Aayan [#2]

I'm ready for Meteor

(S): GOAT convo: Aspas, Derke, Leo, Chronicle, Less
(A): outside GOAT convo: Alfajer, Sacy, MaKo
(B): further outside: TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk, nAts, yay, t3xture, Meteor

aquaa018s_alterego [#18]

when did i mention leo or chronicle? both of those guys deserve to be in the convo but i dont think alfa should be there in my opinion.

Alfa was sometimes fnatics best player in 2023. Unarguably at Tokyo. I don't think he's the goat, but it's unfair to say he is not up there.

aquaa018s_alterego [#18]

when did i mention leo or chronicle? both of those guys deserve to be in the convo but i dont think alfa should be there in my opinion.

bro doesnt know about 2022 Alfa??

clueless 2024 user. stop debating this guy

welikefortniteandvalorant [#28]

no hate but why is sacy rated so highly.

i agree he is not the goat, he is in the conversation because of the amount of trophies he's won on different teams

sentinelmain377 [#29]

(S): GOAT convo: Aspas, Derke, Leo, Chronicle, Less
(A): outside GOAT convo: Alfajer, Sacy, MaKo
(B): further outside: TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk, nAts, yay, t3xture, Meteor

the masters mvp got lower tier than MaKo is crazy

efweema [#33]

the masters mvp got lower tier than MaKo is crazy

all time you illiterate idiot. bro doesnt know what "GOAT" means

kangkang lmfao no
kangkang hasnt been the best even on his own team since 2023
meteor only been at the top for 1.5 years out of the game's 4.5
tenz was ass for two straight years
chichoo has potential but needs more time because goat is of all time
alfajer there is an argument but he was only dominant in 2023

reaper_rega08 [#21]

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Tenz
4. Alfajer
5. Meteor
6. Derke
7. Chichoo
8. Sacy

wtf chichoo above sacy what in the recency bias is this
one of the best initiators for both 2022 and 2024 and the only player to win a champs and a masters
went +17 against the greatest pre-franchising team when it mattered

ranking based off how good they are/success

1. aspas (cemented)
2. derke (cemented)
3. chronicle (no recent success)
4. tenz (insane 2021and good 2024 but bad 2023)
5. leo (not his fault, was sick and hasn’t played in the past year)
6. kang kang (going to move up in the future)
7. sacy (good and consistent player but wasn’t insane)
8. less (never been inconsistent but no recent success)
9. alfajer (had a good 2023 but that’s it)
10. meteor (going to move up in the future)
11. chichoo (going to move up in the future)

if we’re talking about how iconic they are, there’s only 3 players:

1. tenz
2. aspas
3. kang kang

I have no idea why players like derke weren’t idolized like the other 3 but i guess it just comes down to character and fanbase

Chichoo and Meteor

OwenCOA [#37]

ranking based off how good they are/success

1. aspas (cemented)
2. derke (cemented)
3. chronicle (no recent success)
4. tenz (insane 2021and good 2024 but bad 2023)
5. leo (not his fault, was sick and hasn’t played in the past year)
6. kang kang (going to move up in the future)
7. sacy (good and consistent player but wasn’t insane)
8. less (never been inconsistent but no recent success)
9. alfajer (had a good 2023 but that’s it)
10. meteor (going to move up in the future)
11. chichoo (going to move up in the future)

if we’re talking about how iconic they are, there’s only 3 players:

1. tenz
2. aspas
3. kang kang

I have no idea why players like derke weren’t idolized like the other 3 but i guess it just comes down to character and fanbase

tenz is for being pop, the rest is for the stability of skills.

sentinelmain377 [#34]

all time you illiterate idiot. bro doesnt know what "GOAT" means

yeah of all time, but make ain’t win shit in 2021 2022 2023 or 2024. kang kang been in the scene for a year or so and has a champs already. tenz won a masters in 2021 and 2024, if you wanna talk about of “of all time”. naTs has been as consistent as maKo AND has won shit. legit everyone in the list below mako has done more internationally.

OwenCOA [#37]

ranking based off how good they are/success

1. aspas (cemented)
2. derke (cemented)
3. chronicle (no recent success)
4. tenz (insane 2021and good 2024 but bad 2023)
5. leo (not his fault, was sick and hasn’t played in the past year)
6. kang kang (going to move up in the future)
7. sacy (good and consistent player but wasn’t insane)
8. less (never been inconsistent but no recent success)
9. alfajer (had a good 2023 but that’s it)
10. meteor (going to move up in the future)
11. chichoo (going to move up in the future)

if we’re talking about how iconic they are, there’s only 3 players:

1. tenz
2. aspas
3. kang kang

I have no idea why players like derke weren’t idolized like the other 3 but i guess it just comes down to character and fanbase

tenz is not above leo bro

welikefortniteandvalorant [#28]

no hate but why is sacy rated so highly.

2022 he was a fragger

2024 he lost some aim but made up for his util that enabled zekken and tenz to go kill

Nothing to say besides Flyuh