Top 9 teams have same level. Game win goes to who not choked in that day
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1One1 [#10]3 great teams (T1 DRX GEN.G)
2 dark horse teams (NS RRQ)
3 mid team (DFM PRX TALON)
1 GOAT team (Global Esports)
WatsomN [#15]T1 DRX - tiny gap - GENG - gap - NS RRQ - gap(?) - DFM PRX TLN - gap - the rest
Why NS RRQ over DFM PRX TALON. It does not make any sense
GuGengKwaMueng [#17]Why NS RRQ over DFM PRX TALON. It does not make any sense
i can NS being better in the long run but RRQ these fucking chokers dont deserved more
gordonramsay [#2]fuck no, there are still gaps between the bottom and top teams
t1 talon gap drx geng gap the rest
brahianv [#18]i can NS being better in the long run but RRQ these fucking chokers dont deserved more
DRX T1 GenG (gap) Talon (gap) RRQ NS PRX DFM (gap) The rest in kickoff
But we can expect some change in stage 1 bc roaster update
WatsomN [#15]T1 DRX - tiny gap - GENG - gap - NS RRQ - gap(?) - DFM PRX TLN - gap - the rest
Gap doesn't make sense while lot of the matches are 2-1's
gordonramsay [#2]fuck no, there are still gaps between the bottom and top teams
Gap doesn't make sense while lot of the matches are 2-1's
jazzb [#8]bro pipe down, if you said top 3 or 4 it would be believable but top 9?
Lot of games was 2-1 series. even Geng looked bad at first game against DRX and after few games they looked better.
NS and RRQ had long ot it cause talon to win that. now talon new team has strong players.
GE caught with visa issues and small amount of prac they done good. boom show they are better.
gordonramsay [#2]fuck no, there are still gaps between the bottom and top teams
nah t1 vs boom - close
t1 vs prx - close
ns vs drx - close
t1 vs drx - close
Their is not gaps. only bad matchups. like talon good against sea teams. prx mentally bad against some teams(dfm, ts, geng),
geng and ns both pretty tired in lower bracket(geng play 3 on 3 days). ns played talon after that ot match
hehe444 [#21]Gap doesn't make sense while lot of the matches are 2-1's
is that your only reason to be saying top 9 are on the same level? because it really isnt
R136a1 [#25]is that your only reason to be saying top 9 are on the same level? because it really isnt
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hehe444 [#26]#24
https://www.vlr.gg/430534/talon-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr4
https://www.vlr.gg/430533/gen-g-vs-detonation-focusme-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/430531/detonation-focusme-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr2
^this is GENG with 2 new players btw, and PRX with oldest core losing to DFM
top 9 is too much of a stretch that is just pure delusion.
https://www.vlr.gg/430514/boom-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-ur1/?game=196412&tab=overview
"close game" but T1 batters BME 13-7 and changed so much after this game while BME went out 0-2. Top 3 teams are interchangeable I guess, but top 9? stop feeding yourself copium, its not healthy.
R136a1 [#27]https://www.vlr.gg/430534/talon-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr4
https://www.vlr.gg/430533/gen-g-vs-detonation-focusme-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/430531/detonation-focusme-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-lr2^this is GENG with 2 new players btw, and PRX with oldest core losing to DFM
top 9 is too much of a stretch that is just pure delusion.
https://www.vlr.gg/430514/boom-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-pacific-kickoff-ur1/?game=196412&tab=overview"close game" but T1 batters BME 13-7 and changed so much after this game while BME went out 0-2. Top 3 teams are interchangeable I guess, but top 9? stop feeding yourself copium, its not healthy.
Let's see. I highly think not like last year, who's going to qualify to international is change in apac for every stage.
watched all the matches and can say it looking by rounds. lot of rounds was close. only stats and recency bias don't give you a fuck
hehe444 [#28]Let's see. I highly think not like last year, who's going to qualify to international is change in apac for every stage.
watched all the matches and can say it looking by rounds. lot of rounds was close. only stats and recency bias don't give you a fuck
only stats and recency bias don't give you a fuck
this doesn't even make sense.
you said you watched all the games, all the rounds. YET you still think top 9 is a coin flip.
hehe444 [#24]nah t1 vs boom - close
t1 vs prx - close
ns vs drx - close
t1 vs drx - closeTheir is not gaps. only bad matchups. like talon good against sea teams. prx mentally bad against some teams(dfm, ts, geng),
geng and ns both pretty tired in lower bracket(geng play 3 on 3 days). ns played talon after that ot match
Talon never close to win Gen.G I think its bad matchups for them plan etc
GuGengKwaMueng [#20]DRX T1 GenG (gap) Talon (gap) RRQ NS PRX DFM (gap) The rest in kickoff
But we can expect some change in stage 1 bc roaster update
talon is not allat
Fendy1 [#34]talon is not allat
the new talon without ban and governer and with players that have been very good for a while might be good enouhg to make toronto. we js gotta wait till split one
alpine007 [#36]the new talon without ban and governer and with players that have been very good for a while might be good enouhg to make toronto. we js gotta wait till split one
new talon same old crws. they aint making it nowhere
alpine007 [#36]the new talon without ban and governer and with players that have been very good for a while might be good enouhg to make toronto. we js gotta wait till split one
i dont know why many ppl think it would be downgrade of talon
I know ban was good but killua would replace him fine ( MiTH won against Talon )
crws igl and translator would be tough for him in the past but when they speak Thai, he will be better
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