Wtf are we talking about? Is this just a dogwhistle for "I hate female fans?" People are acting like this is the worst thing to ever happen to val and yet you literally never have to deal with it if you don't want to. The only place you could possibly encounter this shit is twitter, and why are you fuckers all on there anyway if you hate it so much anyway?
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laeDLaer [#3]no one was ever complaining about women fans of valorant before the kpop ones come through in the scene. even if it was men acting same way it would be same shit no one want
I mean they were. The rank community is notoriously toxic to women, and that's part of the whole initial "Valorant is an e-daters game!" reputation.
ninjaturtle [#5]It becomes a problem when the female fans just stan a team or player without even knowing the game, then it just gets cringe. For the normal female fans though, I have no issues
But why do you care? Being cringe or lightly into the scene isn't a crime and doesn't really effect anyone. This just sounds like gatekeeping.
laeDLaer [#3]no one was ever complaining about women fans of valorant before the kpop ones come through in the scene. even if it was men acting same way it would be same shit no one want
Its a 16 year old bruh, he thinks everything is a 'society/men problem'
That's what you get for living off your early years on Internet.
zetydy [#4]I mean they were. The rank community is notoriously toxic to women, and that's part of the whole initial "Valorant is an e-daters game!" reputation.
If u stop watching The vids abt women toxicity in val trust me its less than 0.1%
ArterieX [#8]If u stop watching The vids abt women toxicity in val trust me its less than 0.1%
Wtf are you talking about? It's not as bad as some other games, but some form of weirdness happens just about every other time a women mics up in my games.
zetydy [#10]Wtf are you talking about? It's not as bad as some other games, but some form of weirdness happens just about every other time a women mics up in my games.
Then its only an america thing IF i am honest
BEHEMOTH [#7]Its a 16 year old bruh, he thinks everything is a 'society/men problem'
That's what you get for living off your early years on Internet.
Obviously not, but you seem to think everything is a "society/women" problem. I've just long since grown past the incel phase.
BEHEMOTH [#2]The only place where this happens is twitter
Holy dumbass lmao
just another woke merican thinking every criticism is either sexist or racist, most privileged subhumans in the world.
zetydy [#12]Obviously not, but you seem to think everything is a "society/women" problem. I've just long since grown past the incel phase.
Is this just a dogwhistle for "I hate female fans?"
Didn't you say that??
Also throwing words like 'incel' around like its nothing, yeah you definitely living off your early years on internet.
Lame ass get some real life perspective first. Its fucking embarrassing, atleast have some shame. I am feeling some just for you, its that embarrassing lmfao
zetydy [#6]But why do you care? Being cringe or lightly into the scene isn't a crime and doesn't really effect anyone. This just sounds like gatekeeping.
im not even on twitter why would i care
BulkyLettuce [#14]just another woke merican thinking every criticism is either sexist or racist, most privileged subhumans in the world.
Valorant needs better fans. Mfs act like its a joke when people mention how CS is 'chad' game but atleast its not THIS embarrassing.
Every viral Valorant post is filled with general public making fun of Valorant players. These mfs are living in their own echo chamber, dick eating each other to no extent. Its so embarrassing lmfao
BEHEMOTH [#15]Is this just a dogwhistle for "I hate female fans?"
Didn't you say that??
Also throwing words like 'incel' around like its nothing, yeah you definitely living off your early years on internet.
Lame ass get some real life perspective first. Its fucking embarrassing, atleast have some shame. I am feeling some just for you, its that embarrassing lmfao
Bruh. I mean, you're just wrong. Don't really know what else to say. Sounds like you may have a bubble of your own you need to get out of.
arin2016 [#13]It's pretty offensive to link female fans to those making mpreg furry art of the players. They just happen to be girls.
What do you mean by "is this a dog whistle for I hate female fans"?
I mean that half the complaints I'm reading our just about generic fangirls and how soft some of these "kpop fans" are. Some of it is genuinely complaints about idol culture, but a lot could just be swapped out for women 1 to 1.
ArterieX [#11]Then its only an america thing IF i am honest
It definitely is a Europe thing as well not just America sadly
kfan4238173 [#21]Twitter is super important in valorant first off
And the fans are crazy parasocial. It’s something I don’t think I’ve seen in another game. But ur right it’s not a big deal for others
And it’s not just women, I’ve seen a lot of guys acting the same way, at least 33%
I think there is some validity to criticizing super obsessive fans. My issue is more with people calling it "The worst thing to ever happen to valorant" or those talking about it like it's some wider cultural issue for the scene. At this point, some people are just using it as a less cringe substitute for "woke."
Cryptic88 [#22]why tf did u make it about gender? some of these fans are also men.
Because clearly that's who a lot of people are targeting with this when they complain about fangirls online and in the audience who only care about specific players and what not.
zetydy [#24]Because clearly that's who a lot of people are targeting with this when they complain about fangirls online and in the audience who only care about specific players and what not.
it legit isnt. other than idkbro who made the og post, everyone else are talking about the k pop fans IN GENERAL who are like that. also, i cant resist saying this but why do you americans always make every issue about race, religion and gender?
Cryptic88 [#25]it legit isnt. other than idkbro who made the og post, everyone else are talking about the k pop fans IN GENERAL who are like that. also, i cant resist saying this but why do you americans always make every issue about race, religion and gender?
We don't, but some of us are comfortable having the conversation at least. It's really a pretty rare topic, but some people just can't seem to stand it and shut down when it does go that deep.
It seems like your definition of "all the time" is more like "literally ever."
I get pointing out the parasocial behaviour but I don't get bunching up harmless people with the parasocial fans just because they don't talk shit 24/7 or aren't loud or I guess how the recent discourse have been describing it, 'aren't manly'.
Literally spreading hate for no reason just because you find them cringe and blaming them for everything bad in valorant when all they wanna do is participate in the community.
ArterieX [#8]If u stop watching The vids abt women toxicity in val trust me its less than 0.1%
"i close my eyes, therefore i cannot see"
ArterieX [#11]Then its only an america thing IF i am honest
Have you ever played ranked????
I played with female friend and people were toxic af every 2-3 games as soon as she used mic
Kirya [#31]Have you ever played ranked????
I played with female friend and people were toxic af every 2-3 games as soon as she used mic
I don't think he has. He has no idea what he's talking about
Kirya [#31]Have you ever played ranked????
I played with female friend and people were toxic af every 2-3 games as soon as she used mic
Didn't happen to me in sg server. even though i played with some female players some times.
but this happen because lot of girls are boosted run. so people shit talk for boosted once.
hehe444 [#34]Didn't happen to me in sg server. even though i played with some female players some times.
but this happen because lot of girls are boosted run. so people shit talk for boosted once.
I didnt believe it til I played with her
People were unironically throwing and sabotaging entire team just because theres a female
ninjaturtle [#5]It becomes a problem when the female fans just stan a team or player without even knowing the game, then it just gets cringe. For the normal female fans though, I have no issues
I don't see the justification to your "problem"
The only point you said was them being cringe and that's just something that shouldn't be a problem to you or anyone else.
Kirya [#31]Have you ever played ranked????
I played with female friend and people were toxic af every 2-3 games as soon as she used mic
I play with my GF on a daily basis fam (on my second acc )
Kirya [#35]I didnt believe it til I played with her
People were unironically throwing and sabotaging entire team just because theres a female
U are just making shit up
danii1 [#40]Delusional
why would anyone throw their own RR just bcoz there is another gender on the team sounds so dumb
ArterieX [#41]why would anyone throw their own RR just bcoz there is another gender on the team sounds so dumb
A lot of people dont care about rr in ranked
Plus it usually starts with them attention seeking and trying to flirt and do other unfunny shit and once they get ignored they start throwing and etc
Kirya [#45]A lot of people dont care about rr in ranked
Plus it usually starts with them attention seeking and trying to flirt and do other unfunny shit and once they get ignored they start throwing and etc
Just sounds like it would happen in low elo
ArterieX [#47]Just sounds like it would happen in low elo
Way more common in low elo
In asc+ there are still a lot of toxic people that tell any female to stfu at the start of the game and make jokes about kitchen and etc but they wont throw
Kirya [#48]Way more common in low elo
In asc+ there are still a lot of toxic people that tell any female to stfu at the start of the game and make jokes about kitchen and etc but they wont throw
yeah IG
nah i think its about people not liking weird degenerate obsessive parasocial fans that treat esports players as idols. sure they can be profitable but they also damage the image of the esport and the community. could also damage the competitiveness of the esport when orgs realise they dont have to try to win, they'll just make their money from a super popular player (like 2022 sen shroud, altough an entirely different fan base).
i think we all can also agree that its repulsive as fuck when people draw pregnant "fanart" of players, and talk about them as babies and shit. that alone should be a valid reason to hate them.
idol culture is cancer, even more so when people start idolising esports players (antisocial geeks that spend more time in game than outdoors, never had jobs, dropped out of scool etc.)
zetydy [#19]I mean that half the complaints I'm reading our just about generic fangirls and how soft some of these "kpop fans" are. Some of it is genuinely complaints about idol culture, but a lot could just be swapped out for women 1 to 1.
No they can't be swapped out for women 1 to 1. So far I have seen zero posts where they are outright saying "We don't want female fans". The prerequisite to being a female fan doesn't include making mpreg fanarts and obsessive weirdo behavior.
You're saying that someone else saying "I hate parasocial weirdo fans" sounds like "I hate women" to you? What does that say about you?
Stop using women as a shield to deflect criticism. Nobody here has a problem with fangirls. Everyone here has a problem with weirdoes.
kimble [#54]nah i think its about people not liking weird degenerate obsessive parasocial fans that treat esports players as idols. sure they can be profitable but they also damage the image of the esport and the community. could also damage the competitiveness of the esport when orgs realise they dont have to try to win, they'll just make their money from a super popular player (like 2022 sen shroud, altough an entirely different fan base).
i think we all can also agree that its repulsive as fuck when people draw pregnant "fanart" of players, and talk about them as babies and shit. that alone should be a valid reason to hate them.
idol culture is cancer, even more so when people start idolising esports players (antisocial geeks that spend more time in game than outdoors, never had jobs, dropped out of scool etc.)
get a job idk
Cryptic88 [#22]why tf did u make it about gender? some of these fans are also men.
Because once you make it about gender it becomes easier to get people to agree with your shitty narrative.
ArterieX [#41]why would anyone throw their own RR just bcoz there is another gender on the team sounds so dumb
Nah you wouldn't believe the amount of throwers as soon as they hear a female on the team. My duo doesn't even wanna speak ing cuz of that, they be weird and annoying asf too. Not as bad as CS still tho.
they are weird people and make a big deal out of things that arent,they are not even valorant fans they just wanna attach themselves to some parasocial dynamic and then create issues and drama and blow insignificant things out of proportion to hurt someone elses career possibly cause they get some enjoyment out of it idk,like the only reason that the n4rrate drama was even a thing was because these no lifers on twitter made think pieces with thousands of likes about n4rrate saying retard in voice comms and then it even spread to the "mainstream"
zetydy [#6]But why do you care? Being cringe or lightly into the scene isn't a crime and doesn't really effect anyone. This just sounds like gatekeeping.
I care because if content creators like Tarik or Tenz don't say ew stop that's weird the kpop fans will continue and my content on my social media for valorant will be all kpop-valorant. When edg won champs all my fyp valorant content was how kangkang -smoggy gay couple theory edits i checked their profile and ofc it was a 14 year old girl tbh i don't even play this game anymore cause of players like that i just watch it i think leo faria is trying hard to kick me and cs fans out of the game judging by his tweet
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