"Kpopification"

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zetydy

Wtf are we talking about? Is this just a dogwhistle for "I hate female fans?" People are acting like this is the worst thing to ever happen to val and yet you literally never have to deal with it if you don't want to. The only place you could possibly encounter this shit is twitter, and why are you fuckers all on there anyway if you hate it so much anyway?

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BEHEMOTH

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The only place where this happens is twitter

Holy dumbass lmao

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just another woke merican thinking every criticism is either sexist or racist, most privileged subhumans in the world.

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BEHEMOTH

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Valorant needs better fans. Mfs act like its a joke when people mention how CS is 'chad' game but atleast its not THIS embarrassing.

Every viral Valorant post is filled with general public making fun of Valorant players. These mfs are living in their own echo chamber, dick eating each other to no extent. Its so embarrassing lmfao

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laeDLaer

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no one was ever complaining about women fans of valorant before the kpop ones come through in the scene. even if it was men acting same way it would be same shit no one want

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zetydy

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I mean they were. The rank community is notoriously toxic to women, and that's part of the whole initial "Valorant is an e-daters game!" reputation.

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If u stop watching The vids abt women toxicity in val trust me its less than 0.1%

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zetydy

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Wtf are you talking about? It's not as bad as some other games, but some form of weirdness happens just about every other time a women mics up in my games.

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ArterieX

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Then its only an america thing IF i am honest

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danii1

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It definitely is a Europe thing as well not just America sadly

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Kirya

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Have you ever played ranked????
I played with female friend and people were toxic af every 2-3 games as soon as she used mic

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danii1

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I don't think he has. He has no idea what he's talking about

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hehe444

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Didn't happen to me in sg server. even though i played with some female players some times.
but this happen because lot of girls are boosted run. so people shit talk for boosted once.

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Kirya

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I didnt believe it til I played with her
People were unironically throwing and sabotaging entire team just because theres a female

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ArterieX

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U are just making shit up

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danii1

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Delusional

continue thread →

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ArterieX

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I play with my GF on a daily basis fam (on my second acc )

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"i close my eyes, therefore i cannot see"

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BEHEMOTH

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Its a 16 year old bruh, he thinks everything is a 'society/men problem'

That's what you get for living off your early years on Internet.

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zetydy

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Obviously not, but you seem to think everything is a "society/women" problem. I've just long since grown past the incel phase.

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BEHEMOTH

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Is this just a dogwhistle for "I hate female fans?"

Didn't you say that??

Also throwing words like 'incel' around like its nothing, yeah you definitely living off your early years on internet.

Lame ass get some real life perspective first. Its fucking embarrassing, atleast have some shame. I am feeling some just for you, its that embarrassing lmfao

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zetydy

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Bruh. I mean, you're just wrong. Don't really know what else to say. Sounds like you may have a bubble of your own you need to get out of.

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It becomes a problem when the female fans just stan a team or player without even knowing the game, then it just gets cringe. For the normal female fans though, I have no issues

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zetydy

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But why do you care? Being cringe or lightly into the scene isn't a crime and doesn't really effect anyone. This just sounds like gatekeeping.

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im not even on twitter why would i care

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danii1

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I don't see the justification to your "problem"
The only point you said was them being cringe and that's just something that shouldn't be a problem to you or anyone else.

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scorpius39

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its not that deep bro some people were being parasocial and cringe on twitter

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It's pretty offensive to link female fans to those making mpreg furry art of the players. They just happen to be girls.

What do you mean by "is this a dog whistle for I hate female fans"?

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zetydy

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I mean that half the complaints I'm reading our just about generic fangirls and how soft some of these "kpop fans" are. Some of it is genuinely complaints about idol culture, but a lot could just be swapped out for women 1 to 1.

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No they can't be swapped out for women 1 to 1. So far I have seen zero posts where they are outright saying "We don't want female fans". The prerequisite to being a female fan doesn't include making mpreg fanarts and obsessive weirdo behavior.

You're saying that someone else saying "I hate parasocial weirdo fans" sounds like "I hate women" to you? What does that say about you?

Stop using women as a shield to deflect criticism. Nobody here has a problem with fangirls. Everyone here has a problem with weirdoes.

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kfan4238173

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Twitter is super important in valorant first off

And the fans are crazy parasocial. It’s something I don’t think I’ve seen in another game. But ur right it’s not a big deal for others

And it’s not just women, I’ve seen a lot of guys acting the same way, at least 33%

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I think there is some validity to criticizing super obsessive fans. My issue is more with people calling it "The worst thing to ever happen to valorant" or those talking about it like it's some wider cultural issue for the scene. At this point, some people are just using it as a less cringe substitute for "woke."

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why tf did u make it about gender? some of these fans are also men.

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zetydy

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Because clearly that's who a lot of people are targeting with this when they complain about fangirls online and in the audience who only care about specific players and what not.

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it legit isnt. other than idkbro who made the og post, everyone else are talking about the k pop fans IN GENERAL who are like that. also, i cant resist saying this but why do you americans always make every issue about race, religion and gender?

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zetydy

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We don't, but some of us are comfortable having the conversation at least. It's really a pretty rare topic, but some people just can't seem to stand it and shut down when it does go that deep.

It seems like your definition of "all the time" is more like "literally ever."

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arin2016

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Because once you make it about gender it becomes easier to get people to agree with your shitty narrative.

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I get pointing out the parasocial behaviour but I don't get bunching up harmless people with the parasocial fans just because they don't talk shit 24/7 or aren't loud or I guess how the recent discourse have been describing it, 'aren't manly'.

Literally spreading hate for no reason just because you find them cringe and blaming them for everything bad in valorant when all they wanna do is participate in the community.

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hehe444

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Female fans??? more like little amount of female fan. not all female fans do that shit

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NoOne_ButMe

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i do not care and neither should people

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KInggZYnn

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i would say its the "idolisation" that differs from others but ive seen some sane supporters.

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W take

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patuj

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No what? Kpop related accounts and communities are some of the worst on platforms like X. Don't care are they women or not. Its very cancerous and partly even unhealthy behavior.

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ye right kpop has only female fans. gotchya

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MrHyphon

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Is this part 2 of yesterday?

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both things can coexist. there is a (very small) minority of people using this to be hostile to women AND there is a part of the community (surprisingly big) that is weirdly parasocial towards the players. you shouldn't act like this isn't a problem, althought there is worse ones

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deranker

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NO ONE was complaining about the female fans of valorant esports pre-franchising lil bro

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cherish

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yall need to stfu

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bearmans

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tbh i don't give a single fuck about those kind of fans.
what my concern is, if team stuck with a player or players or coach that does not perform well for a long time and they don't do anything about it because they have a big following.

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GuGengKwaMueng

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On show match in master Bangkok, Heart.Bus gonna make the girls fans scream for sure

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kimble

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nah i think its about people not liking weird degenerate obsessive parasocial fans that treat esports players as idols. sure they can be profitable but they also damage the image of the esport and the community. could also damage the competitiveness of the esport when orgs realise they dont have to try to win, they'll just make their money from a super popular player (like 2022 sen shroud, altough an entirely different fan base).

i think we all can also agree that its repulsive as fuck when people draw pregnant "fanart" of players, and talk about them as babies and shit. that alone should be a valid reason to hate them.

idol culture is cancer, even more so when people start idolising esports players (antisocial geeks that spend more time in game than outdoors, never had jobs, dropped out of scool etc.)

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get a job idk

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W

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they are weird people and make a big deal out of things that arent,they are not even valorant fans they just wanna attach themselves to some parasocial dynamic and then create issues and drama and blow insignificant things out of proportion to hurt someone elses career possibly cause they get some enjoyment out of it idk