cs vs val?

cs superior game i think, thoughts?

K

Both are equally good at different things and sick ass at others

cs2 is genuinely awful i was a diehard "csgo is 10000x better than valorant" type and now i literally never play cs unless a friend asks me to, they ruined everything i loved about csgo

Depends. I played CS before Val, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, I had way more fun playing Val solo queue than CS solo queue. Val had a lot better anti-cheat system in its prime, before this past year obviously. Having to play a 3rd party ranked system because the CS rank system was terrible, was not a highlight. I will say, CS tournaments have a lot more hype going into them then Valorant tournaments do. I wish the crowds were more active, and larger fs. CSGO is still one of my favorite games ever, and I play CS2 ever now and then, but something about 21'-23' Valorant was just so special that IDK if it can be beat. Val is 100% better than CS2 though.

csgo was, but not cs2

Penqu1N [#5]

Depends. I played CS before Val, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, I had way more fun playing Val solo queue than CS solo queue. Val had a lot better anti-cheat system in its prime, before this past year obviously. Having to play a 3rd party ranked system because the CS rank system was terrible, was not a highlight. I will say, CS tournaments have a lot more hype going into them then Valorant tournaments do. I wish the crowds were more active, and larger fs. CSGO is still one of my favorite games ever, and I play CS2 ever now and then, but something about 21'-23' Valorant was just so special that IDK if it can be beat. Val is 100% better than CS2 though.

faceit mm >>>>> val mm

I like CS2 more personally

the gunplay, movement, and map design is just a level above imo

composthe [#7]

faceit mm >>>>> val mm

ehhh maybe. The process was more tedious though in my opinion, and more cheaters in faceit fs

ef is still tier 2

Roblox

Penqu1N [#9]

ehhh maybe. The process was more tedious though in my opinion, and more cheaters in faceit fs

faceit does not have more cheaters lmao

I've played like 250 faceit games and am yet to encounter one

Danny [#12]

faceit does not have more cheaters lmao

I've played like 250 faceit games and am yet to encounter one

Back when I used to play before val and even during val in 2020, Faceit def had more cheaters than Valorant. Also, you said you prefer CS2 over valorant, which makes me think you have something against val, as most cs players ik would tell you that CS2 sucks and no one really likes it

Penqu1N [#13]

Back when I used to play before val and even during val in 2020, Faceit def had more cheaters than Valorant. Also, you said you prefer CS2 over valorant, which makes me think you have something against val, as most cs players ik would tell you that CS2 sucks and no one really likes it

Faceit does not have more cheaters than Valorant

Valorant's own people admitted that 1 in 10 Brazil mm games had cheaters in them as recent as this january

Faceit has never been like that. I'm assuming you're just bad at the game and assume better players are cheating

Danny [#14]

Faceit does not have more cheaters than Valorant

Valorant's own people admitted that 1 in 10 Brazil mm games had cheaters in them as recent as this january

Faceit has never been like that. I'm assuming you're just bad at the game and assume better players are cheating

ahem "before this past year obviously"

also, no I am not bad at the game. But I do appreciate you glazing CS2, on VLR none the less...

there are dozens on community notes on steam talking about cheating especially in 23' and even a statement from FACEIT talking about how they fixed it. I'm not saying FACEIT has a terrible anti-cheat, but to say they have no cheaters is just not true

Penqu1N [#15]

ahem "before this past year obviously"

also, no I am not bad at the game. But I do appreciate you glazing CS2, on VLR none the less...

there are dozens on community notes on steam talking about cheating especially in 23' and even a statement from FACEIT talking about how they fixed it. I'm not saying FACEIT has a terrible anti-cheat, but to say they have no cheaters is just not true

I'm not even glazing I just enjoy the game lol

I also didn't say that Faceit has no cheaters, just that it is a better anticheat than vanguard

cs sucks (I've never played it)

personal preference. want a simple and pure skill game, play cs. Want a ability shooter with unique interactions but has a bit of bs mechanics and abilityies to it, play val. Both of them are equally good and shit at the same time. me personally, concord takes the dub here

Felt like I had more of an impact in games individually compared to valorant, feels like its just a gamble and so much more rng shit I have to be worried about, cs2 is some hot ass though so they are equal rn

Cheaters in CS2 making playing the game unbearable if its not faceit, Valo is more dynamic but remove the cheaters i'd say its neck and neck. I grew up playing CS and have a shit ton of hours on Valo.

Penqu1N [#5]

Depends. I played CS before Val, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, I had way more fun playing Val solo queue than CS solo queue. Val had a lot better anti-cheat system in its prime, before this past year obviously. Having to play a 3rd party ranked system because the CS rank system was terrible, was not a highlight. I will say, CS tournaments have a lot more hype going into them then Valorant tournaments do. I wish the crowds were more active, and larger fs. CSGO is still one of my favorite games ever, and I play CS2 ever now and then, but something about 21'-23' Valorant was just so special that IDK if it can be beat. Val is 100% better than CS2 though.

Csgo > cs2 whatever they did to cs2 it feel sluggish
Csgo was so fluid and better than val optimization but too much hackers which ruined the fun

CSGO was much better than CS2. I never liked CS2 and still don't. CSGO>Valorant>CS2

nobody wants to play cheater strike 2 lil bro

Since my first FPS is Val so I enjoyed it more but I would say when I tried Csgo it was quite good compared to cs2 which makes it feels like garbage for some reason i was barely able to play cs2 because how much lag it caused in between for my 4 year old lap and yeah csgo runned much better compared to cs2

lilwho [#23]

nobody wants to play cheater strike 2 lil bro

1+ million people are is say is no

CS2 and Valorant both have incredibly high potential to be unequivocally better than the other, but they both refuse to implement heavily requested mechanics and systems by players that would make the games better.

In terms of esports, CS2 events feel more fun to watch (and especially be at) for me, but I care a lot more about the players and teams in Valorant, and the regional diversity makes storylines much more engaging imo.

Danny [#16]

I'm not even glazing I just enjoy the game lol

I also didn't say that Faceit has no cheaters, just that it is a better anticheat than vanguard

cheater shit losers have to cope so hard lmfao. We know that you guys start frothing at your mouths at the sight of Vanguard, so you have to use the same dumbass spyware excuse to cope with the fact that your game will never be cheater free.

Also, the whole Botzil thing was Riot literally flexing their anti cheat. How are you so braindead to not realize that? They literally said that more cheaters were getting banned because of a new method of cheat, that they fixed so everything went back to normal. They have even said that those who faced cheaters will get their RR back.

Can't expect braincells from a Calorie9 fan.

composthe [#25]

1+ million people are is say is no

We don't care about what 1+ million middle age Eastern Europeans say

Imo CS2 is easier to watch than Val, and I also think it's more impressive watching coordinated nades than it is to watch the same happen in Val (most of the time).

Main thing that has CS2 had going for it in terms of competition is volume of tournaments, and far more top tier teams that fade in and out as times goes by. Val has constantly changing metas, the same number of teams, with players changing in the off season.

Cs2 = consistent meta(s), and wide variety of teams
Val = a variety of metas, but a limited amount of teams.

arin2016 [#28]

We don't care about what 1+ million middle age Eastern Europeans say

i car

arin2016 [#27]

cheater shit losers have to cope so hard lmfao. We know that you guys start frothing at your mouths at the sight of Vanguard, so you have to use the same dumbass spyware excuse to cope with the fact that your game will never be cheater free.

Also, the whole Botzil thing was Riot literally flexing their anti cheat. How are you so braindead to not realize that? They literally said that more cheaters were getting banned because of a new method of cheat, that they fixed so everything went back to normal. They have even said that those who faced cheaters will get their RR back.

Can't expect braincells from a Calorie9 fan.

Faceit players do not “froth at the mouth” with a game having 10% cheaters lmao

Faceit Anticheat > Vanguard >>>> VAC

ashame cs2 base game is unplayable because of cheaters and annoying russians

yeah sure thats why Valo has way more players

Danny [#14]

Faceit does not have more cheaters than Valorant

Valorant's own people admitted that 1 in 10 Brazil mm games had cheaters in them as recent as this january

Faceit has never been like that. I'm assuming you're just bad at the game and assume better players are cheating

Valorant's own people admitted that 1 in 10 Brazil mm games had cheaters in them as recent as this january

that was december only because there was a severe spike on cheating cases. and that was due to the anticheat division on riot going on holidays. it was already fixed and theres much less cheaters now

bronzil_enjoyer [#10]

ef is still tier 2

they are tier 1, i think

Taruuu1 [#33]

yeah sure thats why Valo has way more players

yesterday cs had 1.7m viewers at one time, val has lower than 1m

nt tho

cS vS vAl?

Cs SuPeRiOr GaMe I tHiNk, tHoUgHtS?

who gives a shit, just play the game you like

straight up they're both ass lol

KOMPOSTO [#36]

yesterday cs had 1.7m viewers at one time, val has lower than 1m

nt tho

Valo has more monthly players tho lol

also Valo champs had 9.1 Million viewers at one time

nt tho

KOMPOSTO [#36]

yesterday cs had 1.7m viewers at one time, val has lower than 1m

nt tho

where are these stats coming from tho, many sites say 5m+ so I'm confused

CSGO > Val > CS2

I played Val before playing CS:GO but that game was just so fun to play and the game felt incredible. CS2 is a load of shite.

and Val is just Val.

Danny [#31]

Faceit players do not “froth at the mouth” with a game having 10% cheaters lmao

Faceit Anticheat > Vanguard >>>> VAC

Nobody in the gaming industry other than obese faceshit players think that their anti cheat is better than Vanguard.

Gamerdoc's twitter page > faceshit's whole anticheat

arin2016 [#42]

Nobody in the gaming industry other than obese faceshit players think that their anti cheat is better than Vanguard.

Gamerdoc's twitter page > faceshit's whole anticheat

Faceit’s anticheat is 100% better than vanguard

Faceit’s never had a sizeable chunk of the player base spinbotting

Danny [#43]

Faceit’s anticheat is 100% better than vanguard

Faceit’s never had a sizeable chunk of the player base spinbotting

And Valorant has????? Also on my soul I've seen 100+ videos of CS cheaters spinbotting, walling , etc in comp matches with streamers, who 100% don't play normal CS match making.

Before November of 2024 I would say, Id seen maybe 2 cheaters in my val history of thousands of games. While CS players reported on the FaceIt steam form and on HLTV seeing a cheater roughly every 20-30 games.

Penqu1N [#44]

And Valorant has????? Also on my soul I've seen 100+ videos of CS cheaters spinbotting, walling , etc in comp matches with streamers, who 100% don't play normal CS match making.

Before November of 2024 I would say, Id seen maybe 2 cheaters in my val history of thousands of games. While CS players reported on the FaceIt steam form and on HLTV seeing a cheater roughly every 20-30 games.

lmao you are not seeing that in faceit, and asking CS players if they think they've played against a cheater is stupid, the fanbase has thousands of people that thought Leaf was cheating in his CS days

also, I have also seen tons of videos of pro Valorant players running into blatant cheaters so that's kind of a moot point

foythvlr [#34]

Valorant's own people admitted that 1 in 10 Brazil mm games had cheaters in them as recent as this january

that was december only because there was a severe spike on cheating cases. and that was due to the anticheat division on riot going on holidays. it was already fixed and theres much less cheaters now

Let's compare more objectively, I'm tired of all this "he said she said"

https://x.com/deteccphilippe/status/1883945555102957617

https://blog.faceit.com/three-weeks-on-faceits-cs2-cheating-drops-to-all-time-lows-challenger-rank-race-to-the-top-fpl-845c18ff85b6

Faceit's highest amount of cheaters ever is around 1.2%, Valorant averages around 2.5% per region, even if we ignore the time when 1 in 10 games had cheaters.

Faceit anticheat is better than Vanguard. And it has to be, if it wasn't an industry leading anticheat, there'd be no point in playing faceit

Penqu1N [#44]

And Valorant has????? Also on my soul I've seen 100+ videos of CS cheaters spinbotting, walling , etc in comp matches with streamers, who 100% don't play normal CS match making.

Before November of 2024 I would say, Id seen maybe 2 cheaters in my val history of thousands of games. While CS players reported on the FaceIt steam form and on HLTV seeing a cheater roughly every 20-30 games.

#46 sums it up quite nicely

Vanguard is a great anticheat, but it's not as good as Faceit's anticheat.

You can prefer one game over the other, but faceit does have a better anticheat objectively

Danny [#46]

Let's compare more objectively, I'm tired of all this "he said she said"

https://x.com/deteccphilippe/status/1883945555102957617

https://blog.faceit.com/three-weeks-on-faceits-cs2-cheating-drops-to-all-time-lows-challenger-rank-race-to-the-top-fpl-845c18ff85b6

Faceit's highest amount of cheaters ever is around 1.2%, Valorant averages around 2.5% per region, even if we ignore the time when 1 in 10 games had cheaters.

Faceit anticheat is better than Vanguard. And it has to be, if it wasn't an industry leading anticheat, there'd be no point in playing faceit

Am I stupid or is this the percent of cheaters caught? Isn’t this detection bias, we should assume there should be a similar level of cheaters in both games and the anti cheat that is performing better would indicate that it’s doing a better job?

column1 [#48]

Am I stupid or is this the percent of cheaters caught? Isn’t this detection bias, we should assume there should be a similar level of cheaters in both games and the anti cheat that is performing better would indicate that it’s doing a better job?

both are percentages of game impacted by a cheater.

If either anticheat had a hidden cheater epidemic, it would probably be valorant, as it’s a lot easier to avoid detection due to a much larger playerbase and lack of a demo system

That being said, as it’s our only objective comparison, and both games have a very high detection rate, I’m inclined to just trust both dev’s numbers.

Danny [#46]

Let's compare more objectively, I'm tired of all this "he said she said"

https://x.com/deteccphilippe/status/1883945555102957617

https://blog.faceit.com/three-weeks-on-faceits-cs2-cheating-drops-to-all-time-lows-challenger-rank-race-to-the-top-fpl-845c18ff85b6

Faceit's highest amount of cheaters ever is around 1.2%, Valorant averages around 2.5% per region, even if we ignore the time when 1 in 10 games had cheaters.

Faceit anticheat is better than Vanguard. And it has to be, if it wasn't an industry leading anticheat, there'd be no point in playing faceit

2023 💔💔💔

i like valo more, but competitive cs > valo, skill and prizepool, its like 30kk vs 3 only this season, crazy how riot dont give a fuck about it. like 5 month for offseason is beyond and above

wagonVAL [#50]

2023 💔💔💔

Lmao Faceit’s been around since 2016

I doubt the numbers changed much after a year or two

Danny [#43]

Faceit’s anticheat is 100% better than vanguard

Faceit’s never had a sizeable chunk of the player base spinbotting

The only one who believes genuine delusion like this are cheater shit players. Even COD players envy Vanguard. The anticheat is revered by quite literally everyone in gaming, except for cheater shit fans lmfao. It's kinda hilarious how you guys are like some kind of minority always finding a way to spew the most unbelievable garbage.

Vanguard is objectively 1 billion percent better than faceshit. You can keep crying all day long

Danny [#47]

#46 sums it up quite nicely

Vanguard is a great anticheat, but it's not as good as Faceit's anticheat.

You can prefer one game over the other, but faceit does have a better anticheat objectively

And what I am telling you is, the CS community disagrees, someone that has played both val and cs disagrees, and the fact that before the outbreak this year in Novemberish, val had almost 0 cheaters and if someone was cheating, they lasted on average 4-5 games, not even enough to play comp. I agree, game opinion is objective 100% but VANGUARD anticheat is better objectively and by the numbers

Penqu1N [#54]

And what I am telling you is, the CS community disagrees, someone that has played both val and cs disagrees, and the fact that before the outbreak this year in Novemberish, val had almost 0 cheaters and if someone was cheating, they lasted on average 4-5 games, not even enough to play comp. I agree, game opinion is objective 100% but VANGUARD anticheat is better objectively and by the numbers

you clearly didn't read my comment lmao

I gave you the numbers. 0.4-1.25% of games having cheaters vs 2.5-10% of games having cheaters. Faceit anticheat is objectively better

arin2016 [#53]

The only one who believes genuine delusion like this are cheater shit players. Even COD players envy Vanguard. The anticheat is revered by quite literally everyone in gaming, except for cheater shit fans lmfao. It's kinda hilarious how you guys are like some kind of minority always finding a way to spew the most unbelievable garbage.

Vanguard is objectively 1 billion percent better than faceshit. You can keep crying all day long

it's objectively not. read comment #46 if you're capable of it.

Danny [#55]

you clearly didn't read my comment lmao

I gave you the numbers. 0.4-1.25% of games having cheaters vs 2.5-10% of games having cheaters. Faceit anticheat is objectively better

pulling numbers out of your ass doesnt mean anything. valorant had almost no cheaters before november dude

Well CS players are best in mechanics though ngl, but valorant is more strategic.

CS pros can easily diff valo pros in gun game but in actual valorant environment valo pros are best

It's like comparing raw mango and ripe mango

I've tried CS2 so many times and tried to love it, but it's such a shit game. Movement is awful, you feel like you’re gliding, bullets don't go where you want them to, spraying is rewarded over accuracy, etc...

Penqu1N [#57]

pulling numbers out of your ass doesnt mean anything. valorant had almost no cheaters before november dude

The numbers aren’t out of my ass lmao I gave you links to both and they’re from anticheat devs

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composthe [#25]

1+ million people are is say is no

90% of them are bots farming skin or some sht

lilwho [#62]

90% of them are bots farming skin or some sht

yeah sure lmao