How will Bangkok Go (Swiss Rd 1)

Hello ladies and gentlemen of VLR, a couple days ago I did a "how will Bangkok go" However there was only 30 minutes between rounds so that didn't give much time for every region to vote. Now that we have all 8 participants and the first round draw I will be doing the same thing with 24 HOURS in between rounds. So its up to us to keep this forum active so everyone can see it. (Unless Mods/Devs wanna pin this) So without further ado. How will Bangkok go? Swiss Round 2 will begin tmrw at 5 PM EST. Put ur thoughts and reasonings for your votes below, make fun of people you disagree with idk man just do what you can to keep the forum active so everyone gets a chance to vote.

AMER: #1 G2 Esports #2 Sentinels
EMEA: #1Team Vitality #2 Team Liquid
APAC: #1 DRX #2 T1
CN: #1 EDward Gaming #2 Trace Esports

https://strawpoll.com/X3nkPRkBLgE https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1AvLmnW https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4DXRoga https://strawpoll.com/7rnzV5XOlnO

smh yall dont listen, just voting and not bumping

crazy how almost everyone agrees so far

g2 and vit sweeping damn

trace has a chance ngl, so much prep and they got 5 maps of tape in grand final

thenutoriousPRO [#3]

crazy how almost everyone agrees so far

its pretty late/early for people in every region but Americas so I think its just us voting so far (Im also not checking the votes until I do Swiss Rd 2 or voting myself at all)

kfan4238173 [#4]

g2 and vit sweeping damn

trace has a chance ngl, so much prep and they got 5 maps of tape in grand final

yea ive said before china gets a free 2 weeks of practice/vod review that every other region spent playing. Could do really well the china teams. 2 weeks of being able to change starts and comps so they cant be anti'd

Alr3adyGone [#6]

yea ive said before china gets a free 2 weeks of practice/vod review that every other region spent playing. Could do really well the china teams. 2 weeks of being able to change starts and comps so they cant be anti'd

liquid had to play 600 rounds in the lower bracket run against a team that watched all of it (chichoo nats fan)

sigh bro this is the worst matchup, i genuinely would have preferred g2

kfan4238173 [#7]

liquid had to play 600 rounds in the lower bracket run against a team that watched all of it (chichoo nats fan)

sigh bro this is the worst matchup, i genuinely would have preferred g2

yea i mean every reigon besides cn got a 5 map grand final so there's plenty of vods to go through and watch. the team that changes strats and anti's are probably gonna do the best

Alr3adyGone [#2]

smh yall dont listen, just voting and not bumping

pt 2

bump

n1zf [#10]

bump

thanks gang <3

Im not voting but if I was here is how id vote:

VIT 2-0 T1
G2 2-1 TE
EDG 2-1 TL (I could see an upset here lowkey)
SEN 2-0 DRX (#SENWIN)

bump

n1zf [#13]

bump

Thanks Gang <3 X2

Even with an extra 2 weeks of practice it isn’t gonna be enough for TE to make up for the gap g2 has. 2-0 or maybe 2-1 if TE really cook on their map pick

EDG vs TL is probably gonna be the most jail-valorant match of the opening round. But EDG is possibly the most mechanically gifted team in the world. They aim diff TL 2-1

T1 vs Vitality is gonna be a team diff. 2-0 vitality

Sen vs DRX could go a lot of ways. Sen from yesterday should beat them pretty comfortably 2-1. But Sen if they decide to play like they did in the first g2 match loses 0-2. 2-1 sen.

Inadequit [#15]

Even with an extra 2 weeks of practice it isn’t gonna be enough for TE to make up for the gap g2 has. 2-0 or maybe 2-1 if TE really cook on their map pick

EDG vs TL is probably gonna be the most jail-valorant match of the opening round. But EDG is possibly the most mechanically gifted team in the world. They aim diff TL 2-1

T1 vs Vitality is gonna be a team diff. 2-0 vitality

Sen vs DRX could go a lot of ways. Sen from yesterday should beat them pretty comfortably 2-1. But Sen if they decide to play like they did in the first g2 match loses 0-2. 2-1 sen.

EDG in champs and kickoff have started slow, I feel like they could get upset lowkey. Getting a strong feeling

Alr3adyGone [#9]

pt 2

pt 3

Alr3adyGone [#16]

EDG in champs and kickoff have started slow, I feel like they could get upset lowkey. Getting a strong feeling

been an EDG fan since east asia LCQ. They've looked incredibly strong domestically since then, but they only made it to top 4 twice in 8 tournaments. champs 24 they had the best neon in an overpowered neon meta, and a brand new map in the map pool (abyss) that a lot of teams didn't know how to play. Yes they brought in simon and changed IGLs so that could've been the move that made them click and they're just a fixture S tier team but I have a lot of doubt til I see them internationally again. For me its 50/50 that they look S tier or look like one of the weaker teams at bangkok.

Inadequit [#18]

been an EDG fan since east asia LCQ. They've looked incredibly strong domestically since then, but they only made it to top 4 twice in 8 tournaments. champs 24 they had the best neon in an overpowered neon meta, and a brand new map in the map pool (abyss) that a lot of teams didn't know how to play. Yes they brought in simon and changed IGLs so that could've been the move that made them click and they're just a fixture S tier team but I have a lot of doubt til I see them internationally again. For me its 50/50 that they look S tier or look like one of the weaker teams at bangkok.

EDG went from not making the Madrid Playoffs to winning champs. Truly a 50/50 on whether we get gods amongst men or coughing babies

Alr3adyGone [#17]

pt 3

Stop begging it please, anyone can make a poll and write a 500 word essay explaining it, so don't act like this is something special. It's something that most of us will forget about in a couple of hours max.

unknown_trash [#20]

Stop begging it please, anyone can make a poll and write a 500 word essay explaining it, so don't act like this is something special. It's something that most of us will forget about in a couple of hours max.

not pretending to be special just making it so everyone get can get a chance to vote. quite literally nothing in it for me. Thanks for the bump though!

Alr3adyGone [#21]

not pretending to be special just making it so everyone get can get a chance to vote. quite literally nothing in it for me. Thanks for the bump though!

Pt 4 (Holy shit the eagles are putting BTA)

Alr3adyGone [#22]

Pt 4 (Holy shit the eagles are putting BTA)

pt 5

50/50 drx vs sen? makes sense

HershieBoi [#24]

50/50 drx vs sen? makes sense

really depends on what SEN show up, Last 2 game Sen I believe win. Upper final Sen lose 10/10 times

Alr3adyGone [#23]

pt 5

pt 6

Alr3adyGone [#26]

pt 6

pt 7

TL is getting underrated

bump

Alr3adyGone [#2]

smh yall dont listen, just voting and not bumping

Comments are good for the vlr algorithm

MrHyphon [#30]

Comments are good for the vlr algorithm

agreed

mustafais [#28]

TL is getting underrated

I think if EDG are on form they should prob destroy liquid, so I dont really think they are being underrated

n1zf [#29]

bump

Thangs Gang <3 X3

mustafais [#28]

TL is getting underrated

i haven't checked the vote but its a consensus pick that TL is #7/8 on power rankings. Idk they're kinda streaky. if they get in good form they could cook.

GambleNats [#32]

I think if EDG are on form they should prob destroy liquid, so I dont really think they are being underrated

EDG are known to start off events slow. EX champs and 2025 kickoff. For me it just depends on what kinda team shows up

Alr3adyGone [#27]

pt 7

pt 8

Alr3adyGone [#36]

pt 8

pt 9

Alr3adyGone [#37]

pt 9

pt 10 Last before i go to sleep. All those who are awake. keep the thread alive 🙏

Alr3adyGone [#38]

pt 10 Last before i go to sleep. All those who are awake. keep the thread alive 🙏

pt 11

Alr3adyGone [#39]

pt 11

this lameass keeps downvoting you lmao

kfan4238173 [#7]

liquid had to play 600 rounds in the lower bracket run against a team that watched all of it (chichoo nats fan)

sigh bro this is the worst matchup, i genuinely would have preferred g2

Nah liquid are good enough to do well regardless of the tape teams have on them. Unless theyre honeymooning theyre gonna be the favourites against EDG in my eyes since EDG havent looked very impressive at all

Alr3adyGone [#12]

Im not voting but if I was here is how id vote:

VIT 2-0 T1
G2 2-1 TE
EDG 2-1 TL (I could see an upset here lowkey)
SEN 2-0 DRX (#SENWIN)

I agree with everything but EDG, they dont look nearly good enough for them to be called favourites and for liquid to be called the upset team. Liquid played amazing on multiple maps with such an in depth strat book. I just think they arent very experienced in BO5s esp against good teams and so they werent able to keep up their form through the finals but that wont be an issue for their Bangkok run
Unless this is just a honeymoon (which i highly doubt), theyre looking much more promising than EDG

Inadequit [#15]

Even with an extra 2 weeks of practice it isn’t gonna be enough for TE to make up for the gap g2 has. 2-0 or maybe 2-1 if TE really cook on their map pick

EDG vs TL is probably gonna be the most jail-valorant match of the opening round. But EDG is possibly the most mechanically gifted team in the world. They aim diff TL 2-1

T1 vs Vitality is gonna be a team diff. 2-0 vitality

Sen vs DRX could go a lot of ways. Sen from yesterday should beat them pretty comfortably 2-1. But Sen if they decide to play like they did in the first g2 match loses 0-2. 2-1 sen.

Vitality have FAAAR more firepower than EDG has ever had. EDG are great but theyre very form reliant and have only ever been exceptionally good during that Champs run and even then id argue it was mostly due to their opponents not being able to match in terms of form with them

mustafais [#28]

TL is getting underrated

why tho? cuz its not 50/50?, ofc edg is winning on votes they the current champions maybe they dont win back to back but they aint gonna lose first round imo, specially cuz they had the biggest prep time since their run finished earlier

bump for the asia people

bump again

n1zf [#45]

bump for the asia people

thanks gang <3 X4

n1zf [#46]

bump again

thanks gang <3 x5

Alr3adyGone [#12]

Im not voting but if I was here is how id vote:

VIT 2-0 T1
G2 2-1 TE
EDG 2-1 TL (I could see an upset here lowkey)
SEN 2-0 DRX (#SENWIN)

VIT 2-1 T1 (T1 has Meteor and Buzz Stax can fuck shit up so they can still take a map)
G2 2-0 TE (Trace plays old meta whereas G2 mastering new meta, no chance)
EDG 1-2 TL (EDG needs to experience more with Tejo besides just Bind and Split, Liquid looking a lot better and shooting)
DRX 2-1 SEN (SEN still struggling with roles mixups like N4rrate on smokes etc, and John isnt great on Sova and seems like Zekken majority on Yoru which is why they lost to G2, DRX is looking strong and confident and free1ng probably best Initiator in the game at the moment, also Mako is Thanos)

Bump

bump !

DRX-SEN is currently 120-119 in SEN's favor

bumdumpshhhcch

JustHunter [#41]

Nah liquid are good enough to do well regardless of the tape teams have on them. Unless theyre honeymooning theyre gonna be the favourites against EDG in my eyes since EDG havent looked very impressive at all

Liquid are a very streaky team imo if they feel good, they are amazing. If they start off slow they're gonna get ran through.

Shadow_Monarch [#49]

VIT 2-1 T1 (T1 has Meteor and Buzz Stax can fuck shit up so they can still take a map)
G2 2-0 TE (Trace plays old meta whereas G2 mastering new meta, no chance)
EDG 1-2 TL (EDG needs to experience more with Tejo besides just Bind and Split, Liquid looking a lot better and shooting)
DRX 2-1 SEN (SEN still struggling with roles mixups like N4rrate on smokes etc, and John isnt great on Sova and seems like Zekken majority on Yoru which is why they lost to G2, DRX is looking strong and confident and free1ng probably best Initiator in the game at the moment, also Mako is Thanos)

EDG uses Tejo on Split, Bind and Fracture

Himari [#54]

EDG uses Tejo on Split, Bind and Fracture

Fracture? When?

229fn [#50]

Bump

thanks gang <3

Bump

Alr3adyGone [#53]

Liquid are a very streaky team imo if they feel good, they are amazing. If they start off slow they're gonna get ran through.

all the games post BBL theyve looked amazing, idk how you could deduce that theyre streaky when there 0 evidence to prove so

JustHunter [#58]

all the games post BBL theyve looked amazing, idk how you could deduce that theyre streaky when there 0 evidence to prove so

hence streaky, they looked horrible in their first loss. went on a streak all the way until map 3 in gf then sorta started falling into a slump and lost got reverse swept.

makoidk [#51]

bump !

DRX-SEN is currently 120-119 in SEN's favor

thanks gang <3
damn thats close we shall see the final result in 6 hours

Wow DRX vs SEN is very close

Froggy0_0 [#52]

bumdumpshhhcch

thanks gang <3

saebr [#57]

Bump

thanks gang <3

Trace is beating g2

bump

elendooo1 [#61]

Wow DRX vs SEN is very close

im not checking until i do the next round but from what the replies are saying, it's the closest by far

Boketto [#65]

bump

thanks gang <3

Jarvuy [#64]

Trace is beating g2

that would be NRG losing 4-0 to billibilli levels of upset

JustHunter [#42]

I agree with everything but EDG, they dont look nearly good enough for them to be called favourites and for liquid to be called the upset team. Liquid played amazing on multiple maps with such an in depth strat book. I just think they arent very experienced in BO5s esp against good teams and so they werent able to keep up their form through the finals but that wont be an issue for their Bangkok run
Unless this is just a honeymoon (which i highly doubt), theyre looking much more promising than EDG

yea i feel like edg could be upset and i wouldn't necessarily be surprised. If we get the final 3 maps of the GF from TL they lose pretty easily. RN I have EDG above simply cause of the pedigree but a TL win wouldn't be out of the question

Shadow_Monarch [#49]

VIT 2-1 T1 (T1 has Meteor and Buzz Stax can fuck shit up so they can still take a map)
G2 2-0 TE (Trace plays old meta whereas G2 mastering new meta, no chance)
EDG 1-2 TL (EDG needs to experience more with Tejo besides just Bind and Split, Liquid looking a lot better and shooting)
DRX 2-1 SEN (SEN still struggling with roles mixups like N4rrate on smokes etc, and John isnt great on Sova and seems like Zekken majority on Yoru which is why they lost to G2, DRX is looking strong and confident and free1ng probably best Initiator in the game at the moment, also Mako is Thanos)

i agree with everything besides role issues with sen. N4rrates omen on abyss has looked 20x better than it did in the upper final and John's sova could use some work but that's what they got 10 days for. they'll come into bangkok prepared and I don't think role issues will be as big of an issue as some might think. Yoru also just works so much better with tejo comps its not like Zekken cant play raze or jett. he's a very good jett player and one of the best raze players in the world.

Already gone more like already goner for attention

#mvga

JustHunter [#42]

I agree with everything but EDG, they dont look nearly good enough for them to be called favourites and for liquid to be called the upset team. Liquid played amazing on multiple maps with such an in depth strat book. I just think they arent very experienced in BO5s esp against good teams and so they werent able to keep up their form through the finals but that wont be an issue for their Bangkok run
Unless this is just a honeymoon (which i highly doubt), theyre looking much more promising than EDG

liquid didn’t practice lotus looking at their comp, one of their better maps abyss was also banned (lower bracket nerf) frankly speaking they did very well even if it lead to an unfortunate reverse sweep

JustHunter [#43]

Vitality have FAAAR more firepower than EDG has ever had. EDG are great but theyre very form reliant and have only ever been exceptionally good during that Champs run and even then id argue it was mostly due to their opponents not being able to match in terms of form with them

I mean, I think edg on perfect form can match any team in terms of aim. I think vitality do aim diff them 7/10 matches but if EDG is peak form then firepower is equal. But I dont think that will matter. I don't think they'll play unless edg makes playoffs. But the tactical diff will be a bigger gap for vitality than aim imo. I'd pick vitality 2-0 or edg barely winning their map pick for 2-1 vitality still winning.

JustHunter [#43]

Vitality have FAAAR more firepower than EDG has ever had. EDG are great but theyre very form reliant and have only ever been exceptionally good during that Champs run and even then id argue it was mostly due to their opponents not being able to match in terms of form with them

id take vit rn over EDG, however if EDG stomp TL, i might take them lowkey. EDG's firepower when on form is almost unbeatable

Anoymouse [#71]

Already gone more like already goner for attention

#mvga

fr, he's begging for it atp

JustHunter [#40]

this lameass keeps downvoting you lmao

meh they can do that if they want, just tryna get as many votes as possible

Alr3adyGone [#76]

meh they can do that if they want, just tryna get as many votes as possible

pt 12 last one!