Ardiis is infinitely better than Wardell but don't lie to yourself. Cryo made a living off of feasting on ardiis in both of their matchups. And yay has never been diff'd by anyone
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Ardiis is infinitely better than Wardell but don't lie to yourself. Cryo made a living off of feasting on ardiis in both of their matchups. And yay has never been diff'd by anyone
-tenz +zekken and NA clears
I would think seangares has the most hype as a coach. The actual yay of coaching is probably chet rn. But sliggy is very knowledgeable and from what he's said about TL. HIs team didn't want to dedicate themselves to the grind as much as him and he felt shorted by that. Like scream not wanting to put the time and effort into truly becoming an IGL, others not wanting to expand their agent pool etc etc. So because of all that, don't think he's peaked as a coach.
C9 is releasing their coach. Sliggy has repeatedly said on his stream that he would only join a team he believes has the potential to "win multiple LANs". He's very high on vanity, yay, and the rest of c9. He's also open to any region. He just wants a superstar roster with a grindy mindset. I see c9 as the best description of that as of right now. Thoughts?
Latam, br, AND NA clears emea and Asia. Especially considering NA is nearly on par with emea without BR/LATAM contributing to their depth
Me personally, if I'm at the event. I wouldn't give a crap about the casting. I want the crowd lit. I'll just watch the screen. I don't need the casters walking me through everything lmao
Fnatic went into copenhagen looking like the best valorant team ever. Expectations going in from stage 2, anything but winning was a disappointment.
Who's to say fpx wouldnt have the same flop at Iceland? Optic brought the neon and chamber into the forefront of the meta. Prior to Iceland, NA was the only region abusing chamber, emea barely played him. Come copehagen and the meta defining comps used by optic were heavily studied, practiced with and against, and teams (including fpx) were much more prepared to counter. Why is there an assumption that fpx would've handled those comps in Iceland how they did copenhagen? That's 3 months of adapting that helped them antistrat so well.
Imo fpx was obviously a very good team. But just based on the meta at the time. Fpx at Iceland likely makes the run zeta had.
Edit: this was meant as a response to the guy saying fpx would've won Iceland too)
Counter simple answer: yes
Counter Complicated answer: look at champs
Why are they turning down the crowd so much it makes the stream more exciting to hear how excited the crowd gets
Looking at champs so far, Asia league has 1 team in playoffs, EMEA has 3 but all are lower bracket, and America's league has 5 in playoffs and have only lost to another America's team (loud beating lev). Is America's league gonna be the strongest region going into franchising?
My favorite sport is premier league. You guys wanna go play some premier league later? I love when they premier all over the other team.
Optic keeps banning haven so I think they either have a really good idea they're saving or they are ass at it now. If it's an ace up their sleeve then I think optic takes it. If they're banning it cuz bad then I think optic might be in trouble
Map pool preds?
Optic bans haven
Xset bans bind
Optic picks pearl or fracture
Xset picks breeze
Optic bans icebox
Xset bans fracture (if Optic picked pearl)
TB ascent
Optic wins fracture
Xset wins breeze
Who wins ascent?
If Optic picks pearl xset might win 2-0
NA GO HOME NEAR AIRPORT FLUKE LAN WINS 1 TEAM REGION KEKW
Exactly. Yay was NOT shut down against guild. He was whiffing so many shots compared to his norm.
"Yay go shit on them" strat is too predictable.
Tbf yay was missing every shot imaginable and they lost by a combined 4 rounds on 2 maps.
It's Vicente. Not fire.
Oh hey yapi I think I saw you play chamber for team liquid
Optic 2-1 (2-0 if good maps)
Fnatic 2-1 (if the zoomers pop off xset wins 2-1)
Optic 2-1. If they get a good map veto it could be 2-0.
Fnatic 2-1. If zekken and cryo are on demon time they could pull it off.
Optic 2-1 fnatic
Yay>jamppi
Crashies>soulcas
Victor<scream
Marved>dimasick
Fns<Nivera
Even though people always rate TL firepower super high I think it's pretty evenly matched with Victor, crashies, marved, and of course El Diablo all being in form so far this event. And FNS is the best IGL in the world. Optic matches their firepower and out strats them.
2-1 optic (could be 2-0 depending on map veto)
Zekken>alfajer
Cryo=derke
Bcj=mistic
Dephh<Enzo
Ayrin=Boaster
Match will be won on map picks and if zekken can keep from overheating. In my mind I have it 52/48 in favor of fnatic.
2-1 fnatic
(1000% rooting for xset but trying to make a reasonable take)
Optic 2-1 TL
Fnatic 2-1 xset
Upper semis:
optic 2-1 fnatic
Loud 2-1 drx
Upper finals:
Optic 2-1 Loud
I think if NA wins this tournament it'll be very hard to argue against them being even regions. If anyone but NA wins then EMEA maintains 1st ofc.
I was ranking it by overall history of VCT. if we are going by current form then I would have latam in 3rd for sure. But I was doing it based on every LAN up until now.
Could do it 2 ways. Ranked 1-7 or tier list. I'll do both:
Tier list:
S tier: EMEA and NA for obvious reasons
A tier: latam/apac (better 2nd place teams with more successful LANs)
B tier: KR/BR (neither has depth but #1 teams are insane)
C tier: grouped every LAN but Iceland 2022
True didn't consider that
What about fnatic losing to the NA lcq team on pearl? Or fpx losing to xset on pearl? Or optic beating loud 13-3 on pearl?
Twitch.tv/Sliggytv former team liquid coach.
1) optic
2) fpx
3) loud
4) prx
5) leviatan
6) xset
7) drx
8) 100t
9) fnatic
10) Zeta
11) TL
12) Kru
13) Edg
14) Furia
15) Boom
16) Xerxia
FPX was exposed to be no different from any other LAN winning team. FPX was underestimated at copenhagen and took advantage of it. During champs no way they place higher than 3rd. And by talented I mean S tier. They're just as good as fpx or any other contender. And to pretend fpx is favored over them after being studied this much would be a lie for you to claim. Fpx isn't winning champs.
I disagree with your very reasonable and unbiased take "shao_show". However, I do think they are a top 4 team on paper. I think the spotlight that comes with winning a LAN is too much kryptonite for any team regardless of how talented they are. I would not be surprised with an optic at copenhagen-like performance and having fpx get 3rd. I just think the international field is too talented. And it's too hard to innovate for FPX to repeat. optic, loud, xset, prx, drx, leviatan, 100t/fnatic are all talented enough to realistically win the event. So I think that puts the odds too low for FPX.
FPX went to copenhagen as underdogs, rated #2 in emea and no one took them seriously. They lost to fnatic in upper bracket. Then get suygetsu and all footage from the tournament before that is irrelevant because the team plays different with suygetsu compared to with seider. No one could anti-strat with no footage on the team. FPX looked like gods because no one knew how to anti their setups in Copenhagen. Coming into champs FPX is the most studied team with everyone paying close attention to their setplays, defaults, and their entire gameplay style. This is why no team has repeated and why FPX won't repeat even if they get passed kru.
FPX placement prediction: 5th-6th
Yeah optic has proven to be consistently above loud. Comparing the 2 is inaccurate.
Alfa is never difficult asuna. Derke can diff will tho
Zekken is the most mechanically gifted player in NA. No way zyppan is better than zekken.
Same energy people had saying xerxia would destroy "xshit" now is fpx is gonna destroy them and xerxia is shit too lol. Xset has so many haters for no reason and are better than any of you give them credit for. Haters coping rn
Lololololol
Because NA has the US. And people all around the world hate the US for political reason. And so that typical America-hate naturally transfers over from IRL stuff.
Yes sen was better. But fnatic were favorites going in
Xset gave that match away like 24 times. No way are they losing to xerxia or kru.
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