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SEN = Liquid
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nish_09 [#3]G2
DRX
T1
LIQUID-VIT
SEN-EDG
TRACE
are we seriously pretending t1 is good
painfully mid at best
lalalalalala [#8]SEN above champs winner EDG is craaaazy
EDG wont lock in until Champs
And Neon is not meta anymore
grisx23 [#10]EDG wont lock in until Champs
And Neon is not meta anymore
the fuck kinda copium is that
lalalalalala [#12]the fuck kinda copium is that
An objective observation on a game thats very meta dependent?
nish_09 [#3]G2
DRX
T1
LIQUID-VIT
SEN-EDG
TRACE
sen that low after going 49-52 against g2 and edg that low after winning champs last year and kick-off this year
DrudaL [#11]G2
Liquid
<<BIG GAPP>>
VIT
<<GAPP>>
DRX
EDG
<<BIG GAPP>>
SEN
T1
TE
sen almost beat g2, went 49-52 in rounds and 2-3 in maps, and you're telling me there's 3 tiers (2 "BIG GAPPs" and 1 "GAPP") between g2 and sen? and how is vit gapping edg, the winners of champs who also won kick-off, while vit is currently getting shit on.
DAIH [#6]1) G2
2) EDG
3) VIT
4) DRX
5) TE
6) SEN
7) T1
8) TL
Wait you're rating TL this low after seeing what TL is doing to VIT atm?
grisx23 [#10]EDG wont lock in until Champs
And Neon is not meta anymore
KK is anything but a neon merchant? sure he was really good on it, but he's also great on jett and raze?
SadPandaBear [#20]Wait you're rating TL this low after seeing what TL is doing to VIT atm?
I don't rate them lowly I just rate every team pretty high and I feel like TL will lose their form/momentum a bit and go out 0-2 (they could do much better though)
OwenCOA [#18]finally someone rates edg fairly but trace over sen and tl is crazy
I'm surprised you say that seeing how there wasn't much of a gap between EDG and Trace during kick off imo. That being said I rate the first 3 (G2, EDG and VIT) as S-tier teams whilst I think the rest are A-tier teams (it was tough to rank those 5 ngl)
Lucrix [#27]KK is anything but a neon merchant? sure he was really good on it, but he's also great on jett and raze?
I agree but it would be disingenuous to say the major contributor to their win wasn't Neon meta
grisx23 [#30]I agree but it would be disingenuous to say the major contributor to their win wasn't Neon meta
i mean couldn't you say that about any meta? like any team winning in 2022 could just be chalked up to chamber being broken. I think that if we were talking about NS who apparently only ran neon and had a cracked neon player, but I don't associate KK with neon and it def wasn't just the KK show at champs
AzraelllSEN [#32]why is G2 getting such good gas tho?? like G2 over edg(current champs) be fr
Reason 1: EDG form is questionable rn. they definitely dont look nearly as good as their champs run form during kickoff (could be different in bangkok but im speaking strictly about kick off).
Reason 2: EDG won flawlessly on three maps in champs Abyss, Lotus and Sunset. Sunset got removed, Abyss is their permaban and EDG havent looked nearly as good on lotus as before. losing 14-12 and 13-4 to trace. EDGs other maps like haven which they look good on need to be tested on an international level
Reason 3 (I dont agree with this one): people think EDG's champs run was a fluke, some believe the 2024 teams were weak (dumb asf imo) and others think that EDG just outaimed people (Again dumb asf) and other weird reasons such as neon abuser
Reason 4: G2 are playing extremely clean and beautiful valorant compared to other teams. Their co-ordination is great, their macro is great, their mechanics are great, so people really believe in G2
GambleNats [#33]Reason 1: EDG form is questionable rn. they definitely dont look nearly as good as their champs run form during kickoff (could be different in bangkok but im speaking strictly about kick off).
Reason 2: EDG won flawlessly on three maps in champs Abyss, Lotus and Sunset. Sunset got removed, Abyss is their permaban and EDG havent looked nearly as good on lotus as before. losing 14-12 and 13-4 to trace. EDGs other maps like haven which they look good on need to be tested on an international level
Reason 3 (I dont agree with this one): people think EDG's champs run was a fluke, some believe the 2024 teams were weak (dumb asf imo) and others think that EDG just outaimed people (Again dumb asf) and other weird reasons such as neon abuser
Reason 4: G2 are playing extremely clean and beautiful valorant compared to other teams. Their co-ordination is great, their macro is great, their mechanics are great, so people really believe in G2
ppl gives that last reason every time tho, "They look clean" or "macro this and that" but come the international stage they choke or get shit on
Divine_Thunder [#5]no way u put sen below t1
overrated this season.. u guys were lucky zellsis was on form in the grand finals otherwise G2 would have fucked u up.. and eventough just watch sen get absolutely demolished by DRX
OwenCOA [#14]sen that low after going 49-52 against g2 and edg that low after winning champs last year and kick-off this year
SEN were lucky zellsis was on form in the grand finals otherwise G2 would have fucked then up.. edg will fall off i believe.. and winning kickoff in china aint that big of a deal.. edg always win china's regional grand finals.. and yes ik how good trace r but cmon
OwenCOA [#19]I still see EDG beating most of these teams
G2
EDG
TL
SEN
DRX
VIT
T1
TE
cap, they are vulnerable and we saw it against TE in kickoff finals imo
AK3 [#39]cap, they are vulnerable and we saw it against TE in kickoff finals imo
every first seed looked vunerable, all the second seeds played close games with their 1st seeds in the finals
AzraelllSEN [#34]ppl gives that last reason every time tho, "They look clean" or "macro this and that" but come the international stage they choke or get shit on
they could absolutely choke, but just based on the evidence so far that people could visually see is that G2 look they best therefor they will most likely win.
GambleNats [#40]every first seed looked vunerable, all the second seeds played close games with their 1st seeds in the finals
I know but the guy said I see EDG beating most of these teams like EDG wasn't vulnerable at all lol
AK3 [#42]I know but the guy said I see EDG beating most of these teams like EDG wasn't vulnerable at all lol
thats fair, I thought you meant EDG were gonna be one of the weaker 1st seeds only because they played very close to trace
DAIH [#29]I'm surprised you say that seeing how there wasn't much of a gap between EDG and Trace during kick off imo. That being said I rate the first 3 (G2, EDG and VIT) as S-tier teams whilst I think the rest are A-tier teams (it was tough to rank those 5 ngl)
i say that because they won champs and were the only region to win 3-1 rather than 3-2
nish_09 [#37]SEN were lucky zellsis was on form in the grand finals otherwise G2 would have fucked then up.. edg will fall off i believe.. and winning kickoff in china aint that big of a deal.. edg always win china's regional grand finals.. and yes ik how good trace r but cmon
so you just feel edg will fall off? and you don’t expect sen to be even more in form on the international stage? i feel like this was the same for last year champs, where sen and edg both performed better internationally than regionally.
Lucrix [#31]i mean couldn't you say that about any meta? like any team winning in 2022 could just be chalked up to chamber being broken. I think that if we were talking about NS who apparently only ran neon and had a cracked neon player, but I don't associate KK with neon and it def wasn't just the KK show at champs
youre misunderstanding the point completely. he isnt taking away from EDG's win. hes simply explaining why EDG will struggle this year.
nish_09 [#35]overrated this season.. u guys were lucky zellsis was on form in the grand finals otherwise G2 would have fucked u up.. and eventough just watch sen get absolutely demolished by DRX
I think trace not dropping a map this entire tournament is more likely than DRX destroying Sen.
OwenCOA [#48]so you just feel edg will fall off? and you don’t expect sen to be even more in form on the international stage? i feel like this was the same for last year champs, where sen and edg both performed better internationally than regionally.
First and only time EDG performed better internationally. EDG is gonna flop
Lucrix [#31]i mean couldn't you say that about any meta? like any team winning in 2022 could just be chalked up to chamber being broken. I think that if we were talking about NS who apparently only ran neon and had a cracked neon player, but I don't associate KK with neon and it def wasn't just the KK show at champs
Can’t wait for Bangkok. EDG at champs was EDG with another player that can shoot (Simon in for haodong) and KK being the best neon during broken neon meta + having a good read on abyss when other teams weren’t very good at it. So every match was 1-0 to start for EDG and their best player is someone who can get the most out of the stupidly broken neon. They’re probably A tier which is better than prior to champs. But I really think everyone is overestimating their level because of their miracle run at champs. IMO the worst #1 seed.
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