If he keeps up this level of play, Is it fair to call him the best itw?
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Can Leaf become the best player in the world?
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leboi [#3]he doesn't have the aura for it
leaf aura had brazil rattled when he was 17
they had to ruin his career in CS to get even
Hades_Loves_Rb [#2]I mean he can try for 2nd but 1 is already taken
Indeed, thanks for clarifying the number 1 spot. TenZ will always be the greatest.
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Uncleben [#10]Kangkang is NOT the best player itw bro 😂
He's good but people love to overestimate this dude for some reason
Uncleben [#10]Kangkang is NOT the best player itw bro 😂
NA flag with an EG flair. Need I say more kekw
GambleNats [#12]Please provide who you think is better
If u want me to completely honest, people will dislike this but here I go
Aspas, derke, less, meteor, Alfajer, smoggy is as good as him low key and more
Chichoo and smoggy cleared him on support roles in champs btw
And please argue against me without bringing up trophies
Liwus [#14]Both Leaf and Aspas have brazilians claming that they were cheaters on cs, already on the right track 🔥🔥
if you shoot a lil above average youre a cheater in br cs anyways
gamergirl [#7]leaf aura had brazil rattled when he was 17
they had to ruin his career in CS to get even
major respect for how leaf has been playing but anyone who watched that game knows the chaos players were cheating....
swvyboi1 [#8]Indeed, thanks for clarifying the number 1 spot. TenZ will always be the greatest.
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Honestly watching bang play made me realize how much I didnt appreciate tenz enough.
Uncleben [#16]If u want me to completely honest, people will dislike this but here I go
Aspas, derke, less, meteor, Alfajer, smoggy is as good as him low key and more
Chichoo and smoggy cleared him on support roles in champs btw
And please argue against me without bringing up trophies
First off, these are all very good players, so when I say something it doesnt mean they arent bad in anyway, this specifically this is about best itw.
Smoggy - is much less consistently better than kk, besides champs where he farmed groupstage he has been aight. This is an easier point to argue as they are on the same team.
Alfajer - he has always been really good but he hasnt put up best itw performances since like 2023
Meteor, Aspas, Derke - These 3 players are all very solid contenders for best itw alongside kk and honestly whichever team is doing better will make them better than the other 3. I specifically chose KK because he has had 1 of the best peaks in vct ever imo and he was always consistently good last year. I have Meteor at 2, and derke at 3 overall.
I wouldnt argue with you if you think Meteor/aspas/derke/kk are the best players itw
swvyboi1 [#8]Indeed, thanks for clarifying the number 1 spot. TenZ will always be the greatest.
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Tenz prop in big 2025...
GambleNats [#9]kk hasnt retired yet
Kangkang is the best coming from an edg fan of 3 years. Too consistent overall compared to rest of edg
GambleNats [#20]First off, these are all very good players, so when I say something it doesnt mean they arent bad in anyway, this specifically this is about best itw.
Smoggy - is much less consistently better than kk, besides champs where he farmed groupstage he has been aight. This is an easier point to argue as they are on the same team.
Alfajer - he has always been really good but he hasnt put up best itw performances since like 2023
Meteor, Aspas, Derke - These 3 players are all very solid contenders for best itw alongside kk and honestly whichever team is doing better will make them better than the other 3. I specifically chose KK because he has had 1 of the best peaks in vct ever imo and he was always consistently good last year. I have Meteor at 2, and derke at 3 overall.
I wouldnt argue with you if you think Meteor/aspas/derke/kk are the best players itw
My issue is that not one person considered him the best itw before one series, hell people didn’t even consider him champs mvp
U can’t go instantly from a top 10 player to the best one one match
Uncleben [#16]If u want me to completely honest, people will dislike this but here I go
Aspas, derke, less, meteor, Alfajer, smoggy is as good as him low key and more
Chichoo and smoggy cleared him on support roles in champs btw
And please argue against me without bringing up trophies
Im sorry, it seems you named people who actually know how to shoot back. I doubted your intelligence.
Alfa and Aspas cant even make internationals bro, how are they gonna be the best in the world? Less has been looking real mid lately too. Derke and Meteor are your only good shouts
Your other argument is horrible. Chichoo and Smoggy had 1 good tournament all year round kangkang has always been better than them, and using "support role" is not a good argument, its their best performing role, in fact both s1mon, smoggy used to play duelist but were no longer duelist as they got onto EDG because kangkang was just better. Like look at this generational performance and tell me smoggy and chichoo is better more often than kangkang https://www.vlr.gg/312797/edward-gaming-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r2
Uncleben [#26]My issue is that not one person considered him the best itw before one series, hell people didn’t even consider him champs mvp
U can’t go instantly from a top 10 player to the best one one match
People didnt consider kk a top player because EDG just couldnt win consistently. Statistically he has always been good since tokyo (except like 23 champs where he was aight). If EDG actually got wins before champs, way more people would be talking about him. Its hard to be in the discussion when you win 1 international match prior to champs, no matter who you are
GambleNats [#28]People didnt consider kk a top player because EDG just couldnt win consistently. Statistically he has always been good since tokyo (except like 23 champs where he was aight). If EDG actually got wins before champs, way more people would be talking about him. Its hard to be in the discussion when you win 1 international match prior to champs, no matter who you are
It wasn’t just edg not winning consistently, kang kang himself was not a consistent performer. He’s always been a player with high peaks and low lows
I said the same about demon1 after 2023, I truly don’t believe kang kang is as good as people think he is and I think we will see it by the time 2025 is over
Hades_Loves_Rb [#2]I mean he can try for 2nd but 1 is already taken
Thanks for recognising johnqt 😊
Uncleben [#29]It wasn’t just edg not winning consistently, kang kang himself was not a consistent performer. He’s always been a player with high peaks and low lows
I said the same about demon1 after 2023, I truly don’t believe kang kang is as good as people think he is and I think we will see it by the time 2025 is over
? kk was literally EDGs most consistent performer and played well in madrid, shanghai and regionally as well. I dont get it
RzqoFoxie [#6]Not while Meteor exists
Top 5 for sure. But sadly he might not play for too long. Already 26 years old this year and heard he still has military service to complete.
RzqoFoxie [#11]He's good but people love to overestimate this dude for some reason
Star duelists are always a bit overrated like kk, texture last year. While support players are so underappreciated.
Uncleben [#29]It wasn’t just edg not winning consistently, kang kang himself was not a consistent performer. He’s always been a player with high peaks and low lows
I said the same about demon1 after 2023, I truly don’t believe kang kang is as good as people think he is and I think we will see it by the time 2025 is over
Watch an EDG game pls
Liotakla [#33]Star duelists are always a bit overrated like kk, texture last year. While support players are so underappreciated.
Actual facts. I won't say highly overrated. But people really don't appreciate the support players enough.
swvyboi1 [#8]Indeed, thanks for clarifying the number 1 spot. TenZ will always be the greatest.
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omg..
goat is back
LocoMonteiro [#18]major respect for how leaf has been playing but anyone who watched that game knows the chaos players were cheating....
brazilians couldn’t handle their cs gods getting beat by tier 2 na so they had to make an excuse of them cheating lol
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