tenz was a good player in 2024. here's what he was not:
for all tenz glazers the above is not "tenz hate" it's just facts.
people who think tenz wasn't one of the best players of 2024 are retarded. people who think tenz was one of the above listed are also retarded.
Hynix [#5]nah i hate on karon but he was better ngl
karon was overall better controller but i would say tenz was better on omen
if we take a look on all their matchups their h2h is
karon/tenz:
2/7
5/6
17/19
6/8
overall h2h winner: tenz
https://www.vlr.gg/378666/gen-g-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-decider-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/378662/gen-g-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-opening-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/312778/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
trikecycle [#4]2nd behind karon imo
Idk if Karon was a better omen more than he was just a better impact player than tenz was. Also tbf Karon was on a more dominant and consistent team
JustHunterM8 [#8]Idk if Karon was a better omen more than he was just a better impact player than tenz was. Also tbf Karon was on a more dominant and consistent team
tenz dragged his nuts on karon when it mattered
this "more dominant on a more consistent team" thing is weird
he played in an easier region, and sentinels with tenz had a better 2024 internationally, 1st place and 4th at champs is better than the gen g run, no matter how you split it, sentinels actually won an event and came closer than geng to winning the MOST important event
i really never get this notion that geng was somehow a tier above everyone else
gamergirl [#10]tenz dragged his nuts on karon when it mattered
this "more dominant on a more consistent team" thing is weird
he played in an easier region, and sentinels with tenz had a better 2024 internationally, 1st place and 4th at champs is better than the gen g run, no matter how you split it, sentinels actually won an event and came closer than geng to winning the MOST important event
i really never get this notion that geng was somehow a tier above everyone else
#6
bro cleared karon every time they faced
Froggy0_0 [#6]karon was overall better controller but i would say tenz was better on omen
if we take a look on all their matchups their h2h is
karon/tenz:
2/7
5/6
17/19
6/8
overall h2h winner: tenz
https://www.vlr.gg/378666/gen-g-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-decider-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/378662/gen-g-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-opening-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/312778/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance
most brain-dead argument ngl, expected from Froggy0_0
Froggy0_0 [#12]#6
bro cleared karon every time they faced
nah fr i get the shanghai win was really nice from geng, but champs will always take priority over a masters event, and tenz was the difference maker in the match that eliminated geng
Froggy0_0 [#14]bE
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am i wrong? asuna has better h2h over aspas it doesn't mean shit
gamergirl [#16]nah fr i get the shanghai win was really nice from geng, but champs will always take priority over a masters event, and tenz was the difference maker in the match that eliminated geng
yes geng shanghai was really good and dominant but geng failed to show up when it really mattered at champs
Froggy0_0 [#18]how many times has asuna played aspas
hes wrong anyways
https://www.vlr.gg/295611/leviat-n-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-opening-b
https://www.vlr.gg/337410/leviat-n-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/353185/leviat-n-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2
Froggy0_0 [#19]yes geng shanghai was really good and dominant but geng failed to show up when it really mattered at champs
VLR users talking about champs>masters until it's time to acknowledge EDG: 🗿 (i am also guilty of this)
gamergirl [#10]tenz dragged his nuts on karon when it mattered
this "more dominant on a more consistent team" thing is weird
he played in an easier region, and sentinels with tenz had a better 2024 internationally, 1st place and 4th at champs is better than the gen g run, no matter how you split it, sentinels actually won an event and came closer than geng to winning the MOST important event
i really never get this notion that geng was somehow a tier above everyone else
Yea ik, that's what I was saying. Tenz was the better omen
The reason I mention that GenGs dominance had an impact on karons performance was because with the way GenG won most of their matches it would naturally be so easy for Karon to get crazy games in terms of stats whereas the reason Sen were so good last year was a lot of tenz being a maniac on omen and playing with a super aggressive style. A lot of his plays don't reflect on stats the way karons playstyle does.
Hynix [#21]VLR users talking about champs>masters until it's time to acknowledge EDG: 🗿 (i am also guilty of this)
edg is really good and deserved to win
emea champs : 1
americas champs : 2
china champs : 1
whereas pacific.....
i have high hopes for t1
Hynix [#21]VLR users talking about champs>masters until it's time to acknowledge EDG: 🗿 (i am also guilty of this)
Yea but like let's be so for real the last 4 edg wins were the opponents completely fucking themselves over. Sen EASILY should've won against edg and if you don't think they were the ones that caused their loss then you're a dumbass.
Lev were just an inconsistent team overall and they were teetering off towards the end of champs
Heretics NEVER win grand finals
Froggy0_0 [#24]edg is really good and deserved to win
emea champs : 1
americas champs : 2
china champs : 1
whereas pacific.....
i have high hopes for t1
yeah i love em but pacific is a joke region
gamergirl [#10]tenz dragged his nuts on karon when it mattered
this "more dominant on a more consistent team" thing is weird
he played in an easier region, and sentinels with tenz had a better 2024 internationally, 1st place and 4th at champs is better than the gen g run, no matter how you split it, sentinels actually won an event and came closer than geng to winning the MOST important event
i really never get this notion that geng was somehow a tier above everyone else
Geng also ‘actually won an event’ and sen had a better international showing cause they had a smaller sample size. Geng had 2 grand finals and only lost to 2 top 4 champs teams at internationals which is much better than not even qualifying to an international under 100t
bE [#17]am i wrong? asuna has better h2h over aspas it doesn't mean shit
Yea you are...
Regardless of h2h stats tenz is the better omen anyway, its just another fun fact to look at no need to looktoo deep into it
Tstr [#27]Geng also ‘actually won an event’ and sen had a better international showing cause they had a smaller sample size. Geng had 2 grand finals and only lost to 2 top 4 champs teams at internationals which is much better than not even qualifying to an international under 100t
geng doesnt play in americas bro
Tstr [#27]Geng also ‘actually won an event’ and sen had a better international showing cause they had a smaller sample size. Geng had 2 grand finals and only lost to 2 top 4 champs teams at internationals which is much better than not even qualifying to an international under 100t
It's not about who they lose to tho, it's about how horribly they played. While Sen didn't make Shanghai it was somewhat justified with how much time they had to make the turnaround whereas GenG had the space to play terribly in their own region because their region was trash.
Regardless tho in my eyes not making a masters due to the turnaround time isn't as bad as completely bombing out of a champs when you were qualified regardless of your regional results.
Sen had 1 masters trophy and made a top 4 (arguably should've made GF if they managed to keep up their performance) in champs which imo is much better than a GF in a masters
JustHunterM8 [#25]Yea but like let's be so for real the last 4 edg wins were the opponents completely fucking themselves over. Sen EASILY should've won against edg and if you don't think they were the ones that caused their loss then you're a dumbass.
Lev were just an inconsistent team overall and they were teetering off towards the end of champs
Heretics NEVER win grand finals
so what your saying is... edg didnt play as bad as their opponents so they won? Sounds like a deserved champs win icl
cheeseborger [#31]so what your saying is... edg didnt play as bad as their opponents so they won? Sounds like a deserved champs win icl
I mean yea in a way thats what i mean, that is the reality of the situation when your opponents are all just throwing.
It was the same thing with acends champs, in a few years well look back on the EDG win and no one is gonna give them any credit cause EDG will be another 8-6th team. Its not that theyre bad, their opponents just played worse than their typical performances
JustHunter [#32]I mean yea in a way thats what i mean, that is the reality of the situation when your opponents are all just throwing.
It was the same thing with acends champs, in a few years well look back on the EDG win and no one is gonna give them any credit cause EDG will be another 8-6th team. Its not that theyre bad, their opponents just played worse than their typical performances
and just to be clear i dont mean to say EDG didnt deserve the win, i never said that even once. I just wouldnt give them credit for being the best team of the year nor did they reach the peaks TH SEN and GenG reached through the year.
JustHunter [#33]and just to be clear i dont mean to say EDG didnt deserve the win, i never said that even once. I just wouldnt give them credit for being the best team of the year nor did they reach the peaks TH SEN and GenG reached through the year.
yk what thats fair. i think the highest peak of the year was probably GenG in shanghai or TH in shanghai tbh. the neon meta for champs really screwed a lot of teams over(especially GenG since texture isnt an insane neon and neon kinda owned every other duelist which is why i think they bombed out of champs). the shanghai grand finals could have gone either way but TH js lost steam after the third map and GenG with their experience capitalized on it.
alpine007 [#34]yk what thats fair. i think the highest peak of the year was probably GenG in shanghai or TH in shanghai tbh. the neon meta for champs really screwed a lot of teams over(especially GenG since texture isnt an insane neon and neon kinda owned every other duelist which is why i think they bombed out of champs). the shanghai grand finals could have gone either way but TH js lost steam after the third map and GenG with their experience capitalized on it.
Imma be so for real rn, im not being biased here but in my eyes SEN were BY FAR the peak of the whole year. The way they played PERFECT utility combos and had amazing reads based on the areas of the map the opponents would play and referring back to their anti was just so much more impressive than any other team. I think maybe TH was close to that level but they were often carried by individual rounds by the players.
Out of the three teams SEN were by far with the least firepower and was still competing for the best team of the year and i think that says something really significant. Towards the end of the year we started seeing them implement the util combos and retake heavy style again and they managed to go super deep in champs right after an abysmal regionals.
Im a SEN fan but i still remember being so down on them for dropping pancada one of my favourite players for Zellsis and then seeing the perfection those fuckers were playing. I had to just shut up and watch, i remember the bombardment from the pancada haters telling me how wrong i was and seeing their madrid run confirmed that for me.
trikecycle [#4]2nd behind karon imo
Overall throughout the year karon was better but in bigger matches and high pressure moments Tenz was way better than Karon . Even in the games they lost in Champions against EDG and heretics in both map 3's tenz had a lot of impact .
JustHunter [#35]Imma be so for real rn, im not being biased here but in my eyes SEN were BY FAR the peak of the whole year. The way they played PERFECT utility combos and had amazing reads based on the areas of the map the opponents would play and referring back to their anti was just so much more impressive than any other team. I think maybe TH was close to that level but they were often carried by individual rounds by the players.
Out of the three teams SEN were by far with the least firepower and was still competing for the best team of the year and i think that says something really significant. Towards the end of the year we started seeing them implement the util combos and retake heavy style again and they managed to go super deep in champs right after an abysmal regionals.Im a SEN fan but i still remember being so down on them for dropping pancada one of my favourite players for Zellsis and then seeing the perfection those fuckers were playing. I had to just shut up and watch, i remember the bombardment from the pancada haters telling me how wrong i was and seeing their madrid run confirmed that for me.
im not really gonna argue with you because in the end its an opinion and everyone has their fav team. both SEN and GenG won a major and TH made it to 2 major finals.
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