DSG exit VCL SEA
H3ENnZ [#2]Sigh
Exits Americas and Pacific, whats next China? (Toast has chinese roots)
In fairness it is a very valid reason to exit the league.
The soop exclusivity agreement just kills the ethos of DSG.
GhostKing44 [#3]yeah this was kinda shitty. it was clear smth was happening the last few days but droping the team NOW is fucked because they arent gonna have time to look for a new team. good news is that the team will continue playing as F/A so we can still root for them.
It's Riot fault at the end of the day. DSG won't be the only org leaving the scene in SEA with how fucking stupid those exclusive streaming rights are, no watchparties outside of SOOP, there are less than 500 people watching the official english broadcasts on their website. For orgs that rely on content, co-streams and general viewership it's a no-brainer decision to do, it's late but what are they supposed to else to do? This SOOP partnership that made the regions merge in APAC and binded the scene to a dogshit platform where nobody is watching games is just accelerating the death of Tier2 immensely.
C310 [#8]It's Riot fault at the end of the day. DSG won't be the only org leaving the scene in SEA with how fucking stupid those exclusive streaming rights are, no watchparties outside of SOOP, there are less than 500 people watching the official english broadcasts on their website. For orgs that rely on content, co-streams and general viewership it's a no-brainer decision to do, it's late but what are they supposed to else to do? This SOOP partnership that made the regions merge in APAC and binded the scene to a dogshit platform where nobody is watching games is just accelerating the death of Tier2 immensely.
im not saying it;s all dsg's fault, there's so little info, but It's still very unfortunate for the players. I'm not hating on the org, I'm literally in the discord.
GhostKing44 [#11]im not saying it;s all dsg's fault, there's so little info, but It's still very unfortunate for the players. I'm not hating on the org, I'm literally in the discord.
nah it's fine to hate on the org, since they didn't communicate it properly to the players. But the whole problem really is just SOOP, Mith and DSG are gone now. It will be interesting to see which teams survive this year in SEA.
C310 [#12]nah it's fine to hate on the org, since they didn't communicate it properly to the players. But the whole problem really is just SOOP, Mith and DSG are gone now. It will be interesting to see which teams survive this year in SEA.
according to toast it was a misunderstanding about the SOOP stream exclusivity. He admitted it was DSG's fault. He thought that the SOOP exclusivity was just gonna be for split 3 and that he was gonna be able stream the games until then, but they realized literally yesterday that no costreams are gonna happen at all for the earlier splits either and they tried to communicate with riot but it wasnt gonna happen and then they decided that it;s gonna be extremely difficult to finance the valo team due to this. they will be supposedly helping the team during the transition. So yeah the org fucked up their understanding of the SOOP stuff but without SOOP it also wouldnt have happened and they would have ran it back with the team.
Kim_Minjii [#15]What about slot in split 1 then? The players still have it but not bringing DSG name?
C310 [#8]It's Riot fault at the end of the day. DSG won't be the only org leaving the scene in SEA with how fucking stupid those exclusive streaming rights are, no watchparties outside of SOOP, there are less than 500 people watching the official english broadcasts on their website. For orgs that rely on content, co-streams and general viewership it's a no-brainer decision to do, it's late but what are they supposed to else to do? This SOOP partnership that made the regions merge in APAC and binded the scene to a dogshit platform where nobody is watching games is just accelerating the death of Tier2 immensely.
MiTH also left coz of the soop shit
C310 [#8]It's Riot fault at the end of the day. DSG won't be the only org leaving the scene in SEA with how fucking stupid those exclusive streaming rights are, no watchparties outside of SOOP, there are less than 500 people watching the official english broadcasts on their website. For orgs that rely on content, co-streams and general viewership it's a no-brainer decision to do, it's late but what are they supposed to else to do? This SOOP partnership that made the regions merge in APAC and binded the scene to a dogshit platform where nobody is watching games is just accelerating the death of Tier2 immensely.
thought the order was:
Riot already had plans to merge the regions since the sub-regions of SEA weren't making enough to sustain themselves and to increase competitivity of the region -> SOOP pays a lot to get streaming rights -> Riot accepts the deal -> shit lets loose.
Don't think a streaming platform has enough power to merge a region with riot.
omsinzz [#19]Why doesn’t the Korean streaming platform like SOOP, have a contract with Korean Challenger?
because SOOP (for international audience) is pretty much a completely different platform to SOOPkr and SOOP kr didnt buy the exclusive rights to vct.
capital_d_colon [#5]In fairness it is a very valid reason to exit the league.
The soop exclusivity agreement just kills the ethos of DSG.
why the fuck would riot make a decision as dumb as partnering with SOOP???
omsinzz [#17]The reason for DSG's exit is the same as MiTH's, which makes me feel like this is downfall of SEA Valorant.
ah yes, MiTH, the champion of Thailand's first strike, has to leave the scenes. nice job riot
lead_water_enjoyer [#20]thought the order was:
Riot already had plans to merge the regions since the sub-regions of SEA weren't making enough to sustain themselves and to increase competitivity of the region -> SOOP pays a lot to get streaming rights -> Riot accepts the deal -> shit lets loose.
Don't think a streaming platform has enough power to merge a region with riot.
What do we mean by 'merging regions'?
King_Kireeti [#31]What do we mean by 'merging regions'?
not sure if you even read what I wrote but it means the merge of domestic leagues of SEA into 1 league
King_Kireeti [#31]What do we mean by 'merging regions'?
merging the different leagues specific to their counties(i.e. PH, TH, ID, MYSG) into one single region
lead_water_enjoyer [#20]thought the order was:
Riot already had plans to merge the regions since the sub-regions of SEA weren't making enough to sustain themselves and to increase competitivity of the region -> SOOP pays a lot to get streaming rights -> Riot accepts the deal -> shit lets loose.
Don't think a streaming platform has enough power to merge a region with riot.
merging regions was slightly acceptable because its obvious Riot couldn't make much money out of the 6 individual SEA leagues, however the exclusivity rights to SOOP was the death blow.
if riot just merged without the SOOP deal the viewership would have been through the roof.
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