- GenG - 2024 Shanghai
- FNATIC - 2023 Tokyo
- EG - 2023 Champs
- EDG - 2024 Champs
- FNATIC - 2023 Lock/In
- Sentinels - 2024 Madrid
- LOUD - 2022 Champs
- FPX - 2022 Copenhagen
- Optic - 2022 Reykjavik
- Gambit - 2021 Berlin
- Sentinels - 2021 Reykjavík
- Acend - 2021 Champs
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Ranking all international tournament winners
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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]GENG at 1 when Shanghai had the lowest competitvity and strength of teams since 2021
was easily the highest of last year
ShaoFeng [#2]2022 slander will not be tolerated
its true unfortunately, barely any competition that time and it was just inflated chamber nerds
ShaoFeng [#2]2022 slander will not be tolerated
i mean if we slander 2021, it's only logical to do that to 22.
the latest the better, people keep improving and figuring out the game which makes it harder to win presently.
Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]GENG at 1 when Shanghai had the lowest competitvity and strength of teams since 2021
how so?
NoOne_ButMe [#6]the recency bias is crazy
what’s crazy about it? the recent winners are objectively better
NoOne_ButMe [#6]the recency bias is crazy
what? obviously it's harder to win now since teams figure out the game better with time and the current players are the "real" valorant players instead of recycled cs players
1243 [#12]what? obviously it's harder to win now since teams figure out the game better with time and the current players are the "real" valorant players instead of recycled cs players
then what is the fucking reason of this list if we already know the recent winners are better?
gamergirl [#9]100t was in the top 4 lol
Bro is so wrong about Shanghai lol. Champs was way more competitive than Shanghai.
catNmouse [#10]how so?
Hades is wrong about most part but no way was Shanghai more competitive than champs last year. Champs had more teams and bigger format and had most teams in their peak form.
- Straight up false
- True Fnatic was the most dominant team ever in LAN
- True
- True but might be recency bias
- True
- True
- Could be higher
- Too high
- Could be higher
- Could be higher but i guess berlin wasnt competitive enough..?
- Dont know how are u ranking them but i guess it wasnt so competitive back then so thats why they are ranked low..?
- Fair
Ryandr [#18]Hades is wrong about most part but no way was Shanghai more competitive than champs last year. Champs had more teams and bigger format and had most teams in their peak form.
there were more nail biting matches in playoffs in champs than shanghai so i can agree with that
gamergirl [#9]100t was in the top 4 lol
they were good at 2 maps and nobody banned them plus almost every tournament has fraud teams. Zeta Reykjavik, LEV Copenhagen, XSET 2022 Champs, NAVI Lock In, NRG Tokyo, EDG 2023 Champs, Loud Madrid, LEV 2024 Champs
kyro1 [#21]they were good at 2 maps and nobody banned them plus almost every tournament has fraud teams. Zeta Reykjavik, LEV Copenhagen, XSET 2022 Champs, NAVI Lock In, NRG Tokyo, EDG 2023 Champs, Loud Madrid, LEV 2024 Champs
lev champs 2022 and xset copenhagen imo
Ryandr [#18]Hades is wrong about most part but no way was Shanghai more competitive than champs last year. Champs had more teams and bigger format and had most teams in their peak form.
heretics were not in their peak form, sen were not in their peak, lev were dog and somehow made top 3, drx were ass like actual garbage and made top 6 genuinely the only team who was playing well in that event was g2 in groups and edg.
kyro1 [#23]heretics were not in their peak form, sen were not in their peak, lev were dog and somehow made top 3, drx were ass like actual garbage and made top 6 genuinely the only team who was playing well in that event was g2 in groups and edg.
Bro just yapping anything now lol. Heretics regained their form. Sen regained their form. Geng lost to these two teams who weren't even in form then according to you. All team got better at champs.
kyro1 [#23]heretics were not in their peak form, sen were not in their peak, lev were dog and somehow made top 3, drx were ass like actual garbage and made top 6 genuinely the only team who was playing well in that event was g2 in groups and edg.
heretics tried their best against edg even if the stats don’t show considering they were all negative, you can’t expect every team to be at their absolute best. lev were iffy but i think they deserved their top 3 spot since they were so close to making the finals, drx had a close game vs TH so can’t say they were ass and g2 didn’t win a single map in playoffs and trolled the map veto vs fnatic by letting them play haven
Ryandr [#24]Bro just yapping anything now lol. Heretics regained their form. Sen regained their form. Geng lost to these two teams who weren't even in form then according to you. All team got better at champs.
GenG were not in form either im trying to say nobody was in form for champs besides 2 teams and g2 became ass once they got to playoffs and the rest were frauds. heretics were significantly better with patitek and sen were so bad in the early parts of the tournament sure they got better but they were not in madrid form.
kyro1 [#26]GenG were not in form either im trying to say nobody was in form for champs besides 2 teams and g2 became ass once they got to playoffs and the rest were frauds. heretics were significantly better with patitek and sen were so bad in the early parts of the tournament sure they got better but they were not in madrid form.
Shanghai literally had 100t in top 4, th 2nd who literally subbed in new player like a week ago before the event. And map pool was extremely favorable too for geng. While in champ map pool wasn't extremely favorable to any of the team.
kyro1 [#26]GenG were not in form either im trying to say nobody was in form for champs besides 2 teams and g2 became ass once they got to playoffs and the rest were frauds. heretics were significantly better with patitek and sen were so bad in the early parts of the tournament sure they got better but they were not in madrid form.
heretics are better with their current roster and they proved it at champions
catNmouse [#25]heretics tried their best against edg even if the stats don’t show considering they were all negative, you can’t expect every team to be at their absolute best. lev were iffy but i think they deserved their top 3 spot since they were so close to making the finals, drx had a close game vs TH so can’t say they were ass and g2 didn’t win a single map in playoffs and trolled the map veto vs fnatic by letting them play haven
i dont expect everyone to be at their best this in response to a guy saying champs was way higher than shanghai. and i agree with everything you said besides lev deserving top 3 they had 3 teams choke to them back to back and lost to trace esports
Realfacts [#27]Shanghai literally had 100t in top 4, th 2nd who literally subbed in new player like a week ago before the event. And map pool was extremely favorable too for geng. While in champ map pool wasn't extremely favorable to any of the team.
that is because they made changes to the map pool going into champs so it was more even across the board since most teams were playing mediocre at best. 100t were frauds but heretics were much better with patitek
NoOne_ButMe [#14]then what is the fucking reason of this list if we already know the recent winners are better?
for fun and to rank the recent winners
kyro1 [#30]that is because they made changes to the map pool going into champs so it was more even across the board since most teams were playing mediocre at best. 100t were frauds but heretics were much better with patitek
Lol th of champs would beat th of Shanghai 70% of the time. I get it g2 had better rank in masters so you are saying Shanghai was more competitive while g2 couldn't make top 4 in champs.
Also now don't come and say g2 were better in Shanghai than in champs lol.
Ryandr [#32]Lol th of champs would beat th of Shanghai 70% of the time. I get it g2 had better rank in masters so you are saying Shanghai was more competitive while g2 couldn't make top 4 in champs.
Also now don't come and say g2 were better in Shanghai than in champs lol.
no i am not saying that g2 played better in champs in the groups than they did the entirety of shanghai the reason geng is 1 is because geng are the best team we have seen in valorant not because g2 did good in shanghai. and the heretics shit is just not true the form wo0t was in was miles better than the form he was in playing flex in champs. wo0t just has nowhere near the same impact on flex as he does duelist and wo0t > miniboo which is why the team is better with patitek.
kyro1 [#34]no i am not saying that g2 played better in champs in the groups than they did the entirety of shanghai the reason geng is 1 is because geng are the best team we have seen in valorant not because g2 did good in shanghai. and the heretics shit is just not true the form wo0t was in was miles better than the form he was in playing flex in champs. wo0t just has nowhere near the same impact on flex as he does duelist and wo0t > miniboo which is why the team is better with patitek.
Lol bro coping so hard for Shanghai geng. Nvm stay strong with your opinion. Majority knows the truth. Geng didn't get bad in champs. Other teams just caught up and became better. As for the in Shanghai woot was that crazy cause most teams in that event were literally so much weaker. Th faced 100t, fut and weaker g2 to reach finals lol. A team with a sub at last minute before the event almost won masters lol. At least edg made the change and played with the roaster whole stage 2.
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