EMEA Roles Ranking

Duelists

1. VIT Derke
2. TH MiniBoo
3. FNC kaajak
4. FUT xeus
5. APK cNed (assuming the Apeks rumours are true)
6. GX purp0
7. KC marteen
8. TL kamo
9. GM8 Click
10. BBL LewN
11. NAVI koalanoob
12. KOI Filu

Controllers

1. KC SUYGETSU
2. VIT Sayf (assuming he's playing smokes)
3. KOI grubinho (assuming KCX4 roles were just an experiment and he's staying on smokes)
4. NAVI Ruxic
5. GM8 K4DAVRA
6. FUT ATAKAPTAN
7. BBL Profek
8. GX tomaszy
9. TH Boo
10. TL Keiko
11. APK AvovA
12. FNC Boaster

Sentinel

1. VIT Less
2. TH benjyfishy
3. FNC Alfajer
4. KC Elite
5. TL nAts
6. FUT yetujey
7. NAVI hiro
8. GX westside
9. BBL chiwa
10. GM8 Minny
11. KOI flyuh (makes most sense for him to be senti imo)
12. APK hype

Initiator

1. TH RieNs
2. FNC Leo (would be first if he hadn't just had half a year of no officials or scrims)
3. NAVI Shao
4. GX Cloud
5. KOI Sheydos
6. TL paTiTek
7. FUT qRaxs
8. KC Avez
9. VIT Kicks
10. BBL Jamppi
11. GM8 RobbieBK
12. APK MOLSI

Flex

1. FNC Chronicle
2. TH Wo0t
3. VIT trexx
4. TL kamyk
5. BBL sociaBLEE
6. GM8 Zyppan
7. KOI soulcas
8. KC Saadhak
9. FUT MrFaliN
10. GX runneR
11. APK Fit1nho
12. NAVI ANGE1

Average ranking of each team's players

TH - 3.2 (deffo at least a little bit biased by me tbh)
VIT - 3.2
FNC - 4.2 (average absolutely tanked by Boaster)
KC - 5.6
FUT - 6.2
TL - 6.6
GX - 7.2
NAVI - 7.2
KOI - 7.6
GM8 - 8.2
BBL - 8.2
APK - 10.2 (THEY ARE SO COOKED)

I think Fitinho was seen in trial for APK Flex role

why is koalanoob so low?
did you forget where he originated from or nah

dort [#3]

why is koalanoob so low?
did you forget where he originated from or nah

Choked vs Brazil + NAVI jersey instantly saps people's power + koalanoob has reached unc status at this point

Marteen at 7 is diabolical

kaajak should be over miniboo tbh

danii1 [#5]

Marteen at 7 is diabolical

Idk he's looked really inconsistent and undisciplined to me, still can be world class but I just like the 6 I have above him more

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#7]

Idk he's looked really inconsistent and undisciplined to me, still can be world class but I just like the 6 I have above him more

I guess I can see where you're coming from. But he had a broken team at the second half of 2024. This year he'll shine for sure, with a real IGL.

Joyzu [#6]

kaajak should be over miniboo tbh

True but as I said, I am very biased

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#4]

Choked vs Brazil + NAVI jersey instantly saps people's power + koalanoob has reached unc status at this point

he's from NA and playing in EMEA
i'd say hes top 2 just off of that

danii1 [#8]

I guess I can see where you're coming from. But he had a broken team at the second half of 2024. This year he'll shine for sure, with a real IGL.

Fair, though he still didn't look amazing during KCX4 and even then during KC's peak at Kickoff I'd still take the top 4 in the list over him

Alfajer >> benjy

0/8

Smartest_Fan [#13]

0/8

Yeah tbf TL being top 6 in terms of player rankings is pretty shit bait I'll admit they should be 12th on average

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#14]

Yeah tbf TL being top 6 in terms of player rankings is pretty shit bait I'll admit they should be 12th on average

Tbh if any user puts TL out of top 3 that is a bit ranking

We all know that

danii1 [#8]

I guess I can see where you're coming from. But he had a broken team at the second half of 2024. This year he'll shine for sure, with a real IGL.

Sure the KCX4 was a BO1 without much training but KC had world class macro play but KOI aim diffed them, specially Marteen he went -8 i think and died 3/4 times for not checking corners

Apeks is getting hoody and fitinho

sentinel role is stacked

dort [#10]

he's from NA and playing in EMEA
i'd say hes top 2 just off of that

terrible bait

The disrespect to Boo is crazy though

Elso [#17]

Apeks is getting hoody and fitinho

Hasn't hoody signed to FOKUS? Also I'll adjust the list with Fit1nho

Caskilitonn [#12]

Alfajer >> benjy

1. Alfajer
2. Benjy
3. Less

CaptainAbdullah [#20]

The disrespect to Boo is crazy though

Yee when I was making the list I initially had him in like top 3 but then I kept thinking "would I really take a 26 year old who has the burden of dedicating his mental bandwidth to being the IGL over any of the players above him" and I kept saying no

He's still cracked and an absolute demon in the clutch tho, EMEA's smokes players all just got a lot better this year

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#23]

Yee when I was making the list I initially had him in like top 3 but then I kept thinking "would I really take a 26 year old who has the burden of dedicating his mental bandwidth to being the IGL over any of the players above him" and I kept saying no

He's still cracked and an absolute demon in the clutch tho, EMEA's smokes players all just got a lot better this year

Yeah that's true.

I feel like EMEA will be a lot better in 2025, betters players/teams everywhere.

Thoughts:
Duelist: kamo higher for sure, koalanoob likely higher, also doubt cNed is in but instead Lime. Marteen should be above purp0. Overall a lot of unknown because bunch of tier 2 talent.

Controllers: Sayf lower especially now, suygetsu first might be too early. But overall Ruxic, Kadavra, Atakaptain and Profek could change places IMO. Grubinho might be best if he continues on smokes.

Sentinel: pretty good because stacked role

initiator: pretty good as well

flex: I think for now Kamyk should be lower, but otherwise pretty decent, overall I think runneR will be better than 10th

also holy is sentinel and initiator stacked roles with controller and duelist having some high potential

danii1 [#5]

Marteen at 7 is diabolical

I think he takes too much pressure on stage (like vs KOI)
he must prove he has the potential to be the best duelist in EMEA
this year he has one of the best 5 with him and the confidence of the staff so I hope he does it

patuj [#25]

Thoughts:
Duelist: kamo higher for sure, koalanoob likely higher, also doubt cNed is in but instead Lime. Marteen should be above purp0. Overall a lot of unknown because bunch of tier 2 talent.

Controllers: Sayf lower especially now, suygetsu first might be too early. But overall Ruxic, Kadavra, Atakaptain and Profek could change places IMO. Grubinho might be best if he continues on smokes.

Sentinel: pretty good because stacked role

initiator: pretty good as well

flex: I think for now Kamyk should be lower, but otherwise pretty decent, overall I think runneR will be better than 10th

also holy is sentinel and initiator stacked roles with controller and duelist having some high potential

Oh bro Apeks is so cooked if they don't have cNed. I'm a huge Lime believer but I think he's more of a consistently decent player than a star player like cNed at a T1 level and I don't think I'd take him over purp0 or marteen.

That's the same reasoning I have for putting koalanoob so low compared to all the young players in EMEA and I was honestly tempted to put Filu above him.

In terms of the controllers, Sayf played Omen and Viper last year and I have faith that he'll be able to keep a fairly consistent level with what he was last year. I honestly think SUYGETSU is better suited to be a controller than a sentinel so I think he may genuinely look even better. That grubinho take is honestly very fair I think he's super team material.

kamyk I just have super high faith in. I think he has a decently high ceiling and is fairly consistent. Though sociaBLEE might have higher potential to just take over games so idk

cNed is so overrated, easily the third worst in the league after koalanoob and filu, Lewn will surprise you, imo he might be even better than xeus, purp0 is not a good duelist (great player tho) and marteen should be a bit lower imo, EMEA is stacked in terms of duelists ngl, not a big gap in skill between derke, kaajak, miniboo, xeus, lewn, click and kamo, all have worldclass potential

xeus above kajak

-Artorias [#29]

xeus above kajak

Idk kaajak did just come off of winning Ascension as the highest rated player in the tournament, I'd say he's probably more proven

idkbro [#28]

cNed is so overrated, easily the third worst in the league after koalanoob and filu, Lewn will surprise you, imo he might be even better than xeus, purp0 is not a good duelist (great player tho) and marteen should be a bit lower imo, EMEA is stacked in terms of duelists ngl, not a big gap in skill between derke, kaajak, miniboo, xeus, lewn, click and kamo, all have worldclass potential

Ngl I was super uninformed about LewN so yeah I probably rate him lower than he deserves

cNed was kinda carrying FUT at Shanghai along with yetujey and I still think he has it in him to be world class

I thought purp0's Jett and Neon were kinda elite last season tho I think I may just be remembering a few games were he went crazy so idk

I expect marteen to be better than he was last season with a better calling system and better support players around him

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#21]

Hasn't hoody signed to FOKUS? Also I'll adjust the list with Fit1nho

then I have no clue, that was the rumour I heard.

CaptainAbdullah [#20]

The disrespect to Boo is crazy though

It's true, there is mvp controller and igl and it puts it 7 xd

-Artorias [#29]

xeus above kajak

Artorianus with another shit take

i think there are at least 5 duelists better than Miniboo
profek should be 3 places higher

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#31]

Ngl I was super uninformed about LewN so yeah I probably rate him lower than he deserves

cNed was kinda carrying FUT at Shanghai along with yetujey and I still think he has it in him to be world class

I thought purp0's Jett and Neon were kinda elite last season tho I think I may just be remembering a few games were he went crazy so idk

I expect marteen to be better than he was last season with a better calling system and better support players around him

I wouldnt say carrying tbf, I dont rate FUT very highly so even if he was their best performer its not that impressive for me at a world level, I dont think he is a bad player its just that the others are insane, imo he should start learning new roles because he is good mechanically and experienced just not good enough anymore as a duelist with all these 19yo demons, marteen is a bit of the same he is a good duelist specially on yoru/neon but his jett is kinda mid, he might perform well because Saadhak is a top3 igl itw and the system around him will be great, marteen probably fits what Engh/Saadhak like to do with weird comps since he is really really good on neon/yoru but I cant rate him higher than any of the duelists I mentioned above

dort [#10]

he's from NA and playing in EMEA
i'd say hes top 2 just off of that

top two bottom, fighting with Avova for top 1 bottom

Pato_Galactico [#16]

Sure the KCX4 was a BO1 without much training but KC had world class macro play but KOI aim diffed them, specially Marteen he went -8 i think and died 3/4 times for not checking corners

Elite and Avez and Suygetsu were shooting rly well tho

Elso [#17]

Apeks is getting hoody and fitinho

Hoody is in Fokus, i thought Lime was in talks with Apeks?

Purp0 underrated. He diffed G2 recently.

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#27]

Oh bro Apeks is so cooked if they don't have cNed. I'm a huge Lime believer but I think he's more of a consistently decent player than a star player like cNed at a T1 level and I don't think I'd take him over purp0 or marteen.

That's the same reasoning I have for putting koalanoob so low compared to all the young players in EMEA and I was honestly tempted to put Filu above him.

In terms of the controllers, Sayf played Omen and Viper last year and I have faith that he'll be able to keep a fairly consistent level with what he was last year. I honestly think SUYGETSU is better suited to be a controller than a sentinel so I think he may genuinely look even better. That grubinho take is honestly very fair I think he's super team material.

kamyk I just have super high faith in. I think he has a decently high ceiling and is fairly consistent. Though sociaBLEE might have higher potential to just take over games so idk

oh believe me Lime was insane in Fokus, hes the only available Emea duelist who could turn into a real star duelist

idkbro [#28]

cNed is so overrated, easily the third worst in the league after koalanoob and filu, Lewn will surprise you, imo he might be even better than xeus, purp0 is not a good duelist (great player tho) and marteen should be a bit lower imo, EMEA is stacked in terms of duelists ngl, not a big gap in skill between derke, kaajak, miniboo, xeus, lewn, click and kamo, all have worldclass potential

insanely well worded, +1

reaper_rega08 [#40]

Purp0 underrated. He diffed G2 recently.

it was not their main team but indeed Purp0 is an absolute machine under the right circumstances, insane skill ceiling

Filu top 5 dualists

bonkashi [#35]

i think there are at least 5 duelists better than Miniboo
profek should be 3 places higher

Idk I think MiniBoo's performance at Kickoff-Stage 1 and Champs playoffs pretty safely put him above everyone except Derke. His slump in Stage 2 and Champs group stages I'm willing to forgive because his confidence was clearly knocked by everyone calling for him to be dropped

If he's in form, he's easily top 2 imo

Joyzu [#6]

kaajak should be over miniboo tbh

kaajak is like mechanically better but miniboo does alot of space creating and stuff so before we see kaajak in tier 1 then its diff to say

kadavra is the best smokes in emea..

Koalanoob slander will be written in books
He is not as bad as you guys think he is specially with how broken Yoru is

gamergirl [#47]

kadavra is the best smokes in emea..

He deffo has potential and the competition is super stiff for top 5 I just put him below the top 4 because Sayf and SUYGETSU are superstar players transitioning to smokes that I think will be equally if not better on smokes than their previous roles, grubinho was easily the best smokes player in EMEA last year and Ruxic has the young Turkish player effect behind him

Denjisideals [#48]

Koalanoob slander will be written in books
He is not as bad as you guys think he is specially with how broken Yoru is

I don't necessarily think he's bad I just don't think he can compete with the players above him

He's not young and cracked out of his mind or proven on the biggest stages so he's just one of those players that's kinda there for me

my-dad-ate-my-toes [#49]

He deffo has potential and the competition is super stiff for top 5 I just put him below the top 4 because Sayf and SUYGETSU are superstar players transitioning to smokes that I think will be equally if not better on smokes than their previous roles, grubinho was easily the best smokes player in EMEA last year and Ruxic has the young Turkish player effect behind him

sayf is gonna be igling tho, no way hes actually performing top 3 smokes, his best play is always on duelist not sentinel/flex

grubinho is a good shout for #1 he was technically better in split 2 but that was just form to me

reaper_rega08 [#40]

Purp0 underrated. He diffed G2 recently.

purp0 #2

bro half these orgs just dont match the names

VIT Derke sounds so weird to me. FNC Derke just makes sense

UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe [#22]

1. Alfajer
2. Benjy
3. Less

https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

idkbro [#28]

cNed is so overrated, easily the third worst in the league after koalanoob and filu, Lewn will surprise you, imo he might be even better than xeus, purp0 is not a good duelist (great player tho) and marteen should be a bit lower imo, EMEA is stacked in terms of duelists ngl, not a big gap in skill between derke, kaajak, miniboo, xeus, lewn, click and kamo, all have worldclass potential

I’m not super familiar with EMEA T2 circuits but I thought Izzy was surely going to be picked up by one of the Turkish teams if not another org. Why did BBL opt for LewN?

alienista1 [#54]

https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

why are you always like this Alfajer was always better than Less. you put h2h stats here because Alfa was always better in general stats

actually good list

maybe i'd change sayf and suy

Ultia [#55]

I’m not super familiar with EMEA T2 circuits but I thought Izzy was surely going to be picked up by one of the Turkish teams if not another org. Why did BBL opt for LewN?

LewN just as Comeback have way higher potential and are already better, Izzy is a good experienced duelist but doesnt have the potential to be a worldclass duelist like those two for example

n1cf [#57]

actually good list

maybe i'd change sayf and suy

Hot take but I think smokes is a better role for suy than sentinel

I never thought SUYGETSU was aggressive enough as a sentinel on the attack and didn't really make enough big plays on his lurks and more often than not played for the clutch, which I think is far better suited for smokes play than sentinel, so I think SUYGETSU might honestly look better than he ever has

another nAts disrespect 🥱🥱 nAts clears all

Avez was mentioned as flex in the announcement