people saying "primmie has the best mechanics in the world" are so so stupid, primmie hasn't proven shit, why are we overrating a player who hasn't done anything in tier 1 val yet
it makes sense for primmie to be constantly producing fragmovies every other week while being number 1 in APAC ranked also watch
https://youtu.be/f6SvUFK69xM?t=35
He deserves overrating
He is the guy who SOLELY made TLN qualify
If he gets a good team like KangKang or Aspas
U can see his true potential.
But what did he got?
Crws: Lowest ACS player
Governor: lowest ACS duelist/init
Ban the mid flex
And u expect him to win against a superTeam like LEV?
Come on bro this must be a bait post
I've made so many posts on TLN just so dat Primmie can shine on a good team
https://www.vlr.gg/378667/leviat-n-vs-talon-esports-valorant-champions-2024-opening-c
Diffed aspas, and Highest ACS in the match
Against a superTeam LEV with NA rejects b0n and g0vern0r
Well as dis was one of the worst baits
I close my case
how does that provide anything in favour of "he has the best mechanics in the world" he played good but he went 22-29 against prx (worse team btw) had 0.84 and was diffed by KICKS in his game vs vitality, if you can't comprehend arguments and are biased just say so, I'm trying to have a constructive argument, you're the one who's being naive and stupid
Either you're braindead or baiting. He's played about 4 matches in Tier 1 and 2 of those was at Champs the highest level of tournament possible.
He's already been praised by TenZ an obvious mechanical god and has been praised by multiple others.
He did great at Champs and if he had more time playing he would've done better.
he’s really not. He’s deadass one of the best players this game has ever seen, yall need to remember that players can only show their full potential in a good environment. Primmie has one of the worst yet can still put up insane numbers.
Do you know how insane it is to have the other 4 players on your team to have a avg 0.75 rating and 171 acs. Yet ur still able to be one of the highest rated player in the tournament
?????? impressive debut(doubt this)= best mechanics in the world
https://www.vlr.gg/365322/paper-rex-vs-talon-esports-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2-lr1/?game=176190&tab=overview
is this supposed to be impressive (against prx btw)
ignoring the eye test and praise by his peers, he subbed in last second and managed to stand out and top his team every single game he played, he even called one of their most important maps of the year to go into champs and then proceeded to shine against the best of the best, this type of shit has only been done by demon1 and tenz
Karon had a much better debut compared to primmie, and I didn't say that primmie was bad. you have to look at it objectively. He is a great player, but calling his debut one of the most impactful when other debutants like karon and flashback (very good in kick off, had to sit out until stage 2 with IGL change, still had a very good season) had better results individually and team-wise is pretty much biased.
Will he be better in 2025? Most probably.
Was he good in 2024? Yes.
Was his debut as good as you make it up to be? No.
im sure they would have done equally well, and you just cherry-picked wtv you wanted to rebut. Is his debut really as good as you make it out to be? no. Good game vs TS, no impact vs PRX/DRX, played pretty well in champs. But all of a sudden this gets compared to TenZ 2021 and Demon1 2023. the only impact he had was vs TS
there is no impact. they didnt win a single map. primmie or not they lost and there was no lasting impact on the playerbase. mate what is this scenario youre making up in your head? if they didnt have primmie they wouldnt have made it to champs? Talon has beat TS before albeit they have a new core that new core lost to RRQ, which talon also beat before. Talon 100% had a chance to beat TS even without primmie. you cant base your logic on their performances with primmie cause without primmie they wouldve played a different comp, different setup, different comms, different vibe cause you have a whole fucking new teammate. dont try to spiel and act like talon had a 0% chance of going to champs without primmie cause thats delusional
primmie has had few professional games and still managed to stand out... bro, didn't you watch champions? he crushed it even though he was on a not-so-good team, showing that his skill isn't limited to ranked matches. the main reason primmie is talented in mechanics is because he knows how to play with the keyboard, the a-d movement he uses makes it difficult for the opponent to hit him and also helps with aim positioning, meaning he doesn't need to make micro adjustments or flicks...
I agree with you but man you suck at arguing. primmie makes clipdumps which a lot of other top players dont even bother doing so hes really popular off of that. is he the best? def not, his performances in t1 have been mid and definitely not deserving of the title of the best in mechanics. but in terms of ranked and of those that upload videos CONSISTENTLY along with staying #1 in ranked, he's definitely one of the best in the world
bro, but are you comparing performances or mechanical skills? at least correlate them. opening and pixel marking, tracking, flick shots, aim positioning... all of these are mechanical skills and that's what needs to be compared. that's why primmie is standing out, because he knows how to use these mechanics correctly at certain moments in the game, making him more successful than the others.
you can talk about him being more successful than others when hes been successful at something aight? aimlabbers can be as technical as they want cause thats their niche they live for aim. no need to do all that for valorant, if youre not dropping 10+ as the "best mechanical player itw" maybe your mechanics arent making you as successful as you think they are
I like all the primmie hype and I loved watching primmie play but I do think people are overrating him a ton. Just because he had a few strong games in T1 off rip doesn't mean he's going to keep that level of performance forever. It's very commonly said on this website that ranked demon =/= tier 1 pro demon. Doesn't matter how long you're top 1 in ranked, it's still a different world between ranked and pro.
If he performs next year the way he did for those few games (which I hope he does), then I'll 100% join the hype train. Otherwise all this glazing is just going to make primmie be more disliked if and when he starts performing worse. When you set the bar this high you better hope that person can reach it.