Riot Hypocrites?

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CanadaMan

The second solution we considered was promoting the runner-up M80, however, that would also create questionable precedents. The point of Ascension is to reward performance, and as great and talented as M80 is, qualifying a team that didn’t win the tournament defeats that purpose. Promotion is earned in-game, not out of it.

That's what Leo Faria said when they added G2 to Americas franchising after the whole Guard situation. So what changed? The original orgs weren't picked based on performance otherwise Optic would still exist.

The Bleed CEO must have fucked every riot employees spouse for this to happen.

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Zaphkiel

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Learning from mistakes. Be grateful ig idk

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LeCat

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Big difference actually. In m80 case only m80 will be promoted while the team they lost to did not get promoted.

This time both spg* and boom are promoted

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IHaveAnswers

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This.(Also it should be spg* and boom)

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Liwus

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Should've promoted Scarz instead

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wallofchina

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why

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Not that scummy org. I can name you 3 Japanese org that are better than Scarz if we are so adamant about getting a Japanese org( we won't anyway)

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bronzil_enjoyer

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The Bleed CEO must have fucked every riot employees spouse for this to happen.

good job bleed ceo 👍

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Tbf I wish they could have just held a second ascension to give every team another go at ascension instead of just yoinking boom to join. Feels kinda like they just really wanted boom in.

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CanadaMan

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Boom was probably the org that just missed franchising in APAC when they decided the teams originally

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Wellthisisbad

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Yeah but it still feels bad because they still lost the finals. Flying the top 8 from the ascension in and having them play to select the a team to replace bleed would have atleast made it not feel forced.

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bro boom wins both sides of the argument lol

they both EARNED it this year in ascension, as the second placed team

and apparently they were the team riot trusted to replace bleed last year if things went wrong, so they have good financial or are stable

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Wellthisisbad

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Yes they were able to beat dsg, riddle and full sense while getting extremely close to beating spg but they still lost.

Holding another ascension tournament means every team gets a second chance not just give it to boom for being the second best team. Now they have to prove they are the second best team.

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they did prove they are the second best bro

there was a losers bracket too so no fluke, boom is by every way you can measure it the second best t2 team of 2024 in APAC

absolutely no reason for riot to spend money to bring everyone back for a lan, especially when lots of them have stopped playing

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ianceae

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but boom got 2nd... why they should do that?

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Wellthisisbad

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Yeah second, spg still won, holding another tournament would give every team in the top 8 another chance to get the slot, yes boom would probably win but then they actually proved they deserved a second chance.
If spg had lost, whose to say, they are given the slot? It feels like riot just wanted boom in vct even though they shouldn’t have.
I’m not discrediting their 2nd place finish it just feels wrong that boom were given it so quickly.

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PeterGriffin

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if you think boom didnt deserve that slot i think you need to read this:
BOOM has been investing in valorant since 2020 and never leave the scene. they always qualified in sea/apac. they qual to champs 2022. they fight for ascension for 2 years with good result(2th and 4th). boom as organization put a lot effort, time, money into this game. if there is only 1 organization that deserve franchising, the only answer is BOOM

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It can be argued that BME got what they shouldn't have gotten, but at least they didn't take SPG's place. SPG got what they deserved.

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cloudberry

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There's a huge difference between the two.

In The Guard's case, they already had a roster locked. That roster won Ascension, and deserved to play in tier 1, no matter which banner they were flying.

In BLEED's case, they don't have a roster. They have 2 players and a coach. If they were picked up by a new org, that org would be able to put in 3 players of their own, which is the majority of the roster out of their own pockets.

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Not1

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I think main reason for choosing boom is because of there ranking in both ascension and the fact that boom are rich.
Riot clearly mentioned if a team get relegate, they will prioritize a t2 team.
Boom is the best option,
In case of the Guard, it was different. The guard wasn't really replacing another team.

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The issue with that is M80 woulda been promoted instead of the winners. Here the winners got what they deserved + we lost a bottom feeder team who were bad partners + we gained a team that is probably significantly better than BLD. Best case scenario imo

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ianceae

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to begin with the 2 cases and their circumstances are different

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the M80 hypothesis meant the actual #1 ascension team wouldn't get in the league even though they won. This time, they approved both #1 and #2 because another team already in the league is banned.
2 different situations and outcomes, in this case I think it was a pretty fair decision from riot. The only misfortunate thing is now former bleed staff and players losing their jobs and I don't think Bleed will take any responsibility. 😓