Harapan845 [#4]and no german orgs
Well Germans are trending upwards, they're going from 0 orgs 0 players to 0 orgs 1 player
Mortadelo [#6]Well Germans are trending upwards, they're going from 0 orgs 0 players to 0 orgs 1 player
Does tex count
Mortadelo [#6]Well Germans are trending upwards, they're going from 0 orgs 0 players to 0 orgs 1 player
but with emeas stages being held in berlin it feels wrong
Harapan845 [#8]but with emeas stages being held in berlin it feels wrong
It does, but rn the fanbase is really low. Hopefully Click helps with that
Mortadelo [#5]looking like gone most likely
Really unfair. He was great in the short time he was afforded. Not much of a meritocracy
Congo1 [#10]Really unfair. He was great in the short time he was afforded. Not much of a meritocracy
I think he should stay but isn't it kinda the opposite?
I mean no meritocracy would be if he stays just because he was there last year. But if there's tryouts and they thought someone else was better, that is meritocracy no? Whoever is better gets in
Absolutely horrible for the hype, huge loss of identity, you are our favorite rival (I hope Koi do good so KC-KOI will be amazing)
But will it be the same if we just cheer at some logo and not cheer people that have common things with us ? (Language, place where we grew etc)
Also, our best talent have no shot in our T2 because we want to be comeptitive and we fully import, if we want our player being good we need to ask for Riot to stop purely and simplely the fact people can gain a residency to be sure we have at least 3 of our player per team (It have to be a change of rule, if a team choose to not import it may just be relegated and will have 0 chance to win asc)
M8 did the impossible in 2023, M8 is mush more hype than any team with full import x) Maybe even Tier 1 team should have a minimum of T2 player wish they represent to make it more hype, if not, every EU team will just be bland (But that mean Germany will need a T1 franchise and one of3 Spain partnered team is replaced)
Mortadelo [#9]It does, but rn the fanbase is really low. Hopefully Click helps with that
Cgn looks like they want to attack next year. They dont want to let their players go easily. So maybe next year
Jivko [#12]https://x.com/nataNk1wnl/status/1840043678426972425
isnt natank hinting at staying in M8?
The NAVI rumor is getting stronger idk. Either way it doesn't make much of a difference. If he's not on the team is because he's on a better team. So I would count it as 1 French player
Anguibok [#13]Absolutely horrible for the hype, huge loss of identity, you are our favorite rival (I hope Koi do good so KC-KOI will be amazing)
But will it be the same if we just cheer at some logo and not cheer people that have common things with us ? (Language, place where we grew etc)
Also, our best talent have no shot in our T2 because we want to be comeptitive and we fully import, if we want our player being good we need to ask for Riot to stop purely and simplely the fact people can gain a residency to be sure we have at least 3 of our player per team (It have to be a change of rule, if a team choose to not import it may just be relegated and will have 0 chance to win asc)M8 did the impossible in 2023, M8 is mush more hype than any team with full import x) Maybe even Tier 1 team should have a minimum of T2 player wish they represent to make it more hype, if not, every EU team will just be bland (But that mean Germany will need a T1 franchise and one of3 Spain partnered team is replaced)
Kadavra not making it is silly. Scream out is dumb too. These players are clearly good enough
Congo1 [#14]Cgn looks like they want to attack next year. They dont want to let their players go easily. So maybe next year
I really wanted them to win this year. I thought they would bring a lot more to the table than Apeks
Mortadelo [#11]I think he should stay but isn't it kinda the opposite?
I mean no meritocracy would be if he stays just because he was there last year. But if there's tryouts and they thought someone else was better, that is meritocracy no? Whoever is better gets in
Tryouts have such a small sample size. I am sceptical of their value.
Congo1 [#18]Tryouts have such a small sample size. I am sceptical of their value.
Fair enough, they do have that risk but just keeping a player without trying out more people does not guarantee you get the bets player either
Mortadelo [#9]It does, but rn the fanbase is really low. Hopefully Click helps with that
trust me i will attend Navi games only for Click although i live 20mins away from the arena
Mortadelo [#17]I really wanted them to win this year. I thought they would bring a lot more to the table than Apeks
if their igl wasnt instalocking phoenix every map they could have won i feel like
Mortadelo [#17]I really wanted them to win this year. I thought they would bring a lot more to the table than Apeks
the good thing is there r still plenty big german orgs competing (SK, Mouz, CGN, FOKUS, Eintrach Frankfurt) and Eintracht Frankfurt said Valorant will be a long term project for them and Fokus has the biggest german content creator so i have hopes
Mortadelo [#15]The NAVI rumor is getting stronger idk. Either way it doesn't make much of a difference. If he's not on the team is because he's on a better team. So I would count it as 1 French player
still sceptical about him signing for NAVI. If he's the flex player then that's very negligible upgrade on zyppan (not taking into consideration NAVI's stage 2 performance cuz we all know the reason for it)
Anguibok [#13]Absolutely horrible for the hype, huge loss of identity, you are our favorite rival (I hope Koi do good so KC-KOI will be amazing)
But will it be the same if we just cheer at some logo and not cheer people that have common things with us ? (Language, place where we grew etc)
Also, our best talent have no shot in our T2 because we want to be comeptitive and we fully import, if we want our player being good we need to ask for Riot to stop purely and simplely the fact people can gain a residency to be sure we have at least 3 of our player per team (It have to be a change of rule, if a team choose to not import it may just be relegated and will have 0 chance to win asc)M8 did the impossible in 2023, M8 is mush more hype than any team with full import x) Maybe even Tier 1 team should have a minimum of T2 player wish they represent to make it more hype, if not, every EU team will just be bland (But that mean Germany will need a T1 franchise and one of3 Spain partnered team is replaced)
I mean for the fanbase it's always the same with this. It depends if you win or not.
I can guarantee TH fans prefer what they have to 5 spanish players that place top 10
But if you're gonna place last like KOI anyway without spanish players then they're gonna kill you
In Spain we're used to supporting the badge no matter the nationality. Real Madrid it's just a bunch of French and Brazilians put together and nobody complains. That mentality is just not that common in esports
Me personally Idk how to feel about it. It's hard, I think we need to develop talent in our VCL first
Obviously it’s sad, but for gentle mates they are kinda forced to, Vitality I already said it have no interest in it whatsoever, Ze1sh is still in the team and like a lot a lot a lot of people love him (understandably so (I do love him too)) so it doesn’t change too much for KC
Tldr; 99% of the French does not care at all about the team going international
Jivko [#23]still sceptical about him signing for NAVI. If he's the flex player then that's very negligible upgrade on zyppan (not taking into consideration NAVI's stage 2 performance cuz we all know the reason for it)
What other flex would they sign tho? He's like the best available
Also by that logic why do you sign hiro, he's not technically better than Suygetsu. It's never been about the individual players, natank and hiro bring other stuff
Mortadelo [#26]What other flex would they sign tho? He's like the best available
Also by that logic why do you sign hiro, he's not technically better than Suygetsu. It's never been about the individual players, natank and hiro bring other stuff
as I've said in other threads, I'd rather had suy stay as sentinel and hiro be the flex. if Natank does end up in NAVI I will wish him nothing but the best and hopefully he brings us back to the top
Mortadelo [#24]I mean for the fanbase it's always the same with this. It depends if you win or not.
I can guarantee TH fans prefer what they have to 5 spanish players that place top 10
But if you're gonna place last like KOI anyway without spanish players then they're gonna kill youIn Spain we're used to supporting the badge no matter the nationality. Real Madrid it's just a bunch of French and Brazilians put together and nobody complains. That mentality is just not that common in esports
Me personally Idk how to feel about it. It's hard, I think we need to develop talent in our VCL first
To be fair when KC 2023 did have a lot of hype, more than KC 2024 before they start winning. To me aiming for good result is just short term thinking, but in long term this is destructive, this will destruct our fanbase and our hype, and that basically what destroyed NA LoL.
If KC pick full inter and go on a run we go cheer, if KC pick full French (French speaking counted, if it's 5 African it's the same to us) and go 0-11 we will be hype until the end and beleive the miracl run, but not every team can be top 4/8 and if KC have full inter and 0-11 we will care mush more less,
Thats also why the "Max intra-import rule" should be universal, if not, team that will go full inter will have unfair advantage against team that choose to think in long term.
One of hope I have with KC is that they succeed to find french young player, they kinda did on LoL (But too mush import) and hope they will on Val, I have no doubt they will have an Aca team And if they dont it will be their female player with maybe 1 or 2 male sub lol so they can aim at ascention, and maybe in long term we will have french player... I hope so
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