LOUD had a better year than NRG, EG and C9, they are the sixth best team in the Americas.
5
LOUD was not one of the worst teams in the America
posted in
General Discussion
Comments:
Threaded
Linear
Pengu12 [#2]Loud had a good Madrid, then became one of the worst teams
LOUD also made playoffs in Split 1 before losing to 100 Thieves, who won the whole Split and qualified as first seed
kalayav_n [#4]LOUD as an ORG are dogshit, LOUD players apart from qck are top 5 nbest players in their roles; LOUD coach? very dogshit
idk about top 5 in the role
less? yeah, cauinzin? no, tuyz? no, pancada? no, sadhaak? since he is a great igl, yah
GambleNats [#6]idk about top 5 in the role
less? yeah, cauinzin? no, tuyz? no, pancada? no, sadhaak? since he is a great igl, yah
nah cauanzin is very good even if he did shit this year. he’s better than eeiu imo
debatably top 5 despite not winning any international trophy
GambleNats [#6]idk about top 5 in the role
less? yeah, cauinzin? no, tuyz? no, pancada? no, sadhaak? since he is a great igl, yah
caunzin has a lot of firepower, tuyz and pancada are the best smokers, saadhak is no longer there :( but we have saadZAP
novato1 [#8]caunzin has a lot of firepower, tuyz and pancada are the best smokers, saadhak is no longer there :( but we have saadZAP
list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
Karon
List of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
GambleNats [#9]list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
KaronList of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
forsaken is NOT better than cauanzin 😭
i think he’s better than beyn and trent
catNmouse [#10]forsaken is NOT better than cauanzin 😭
i think he’s better than beyn and trent
utility wise, sure caua is better but I mean forsaken was putting up ridiculous numbers on inti
GambleNats [#9]list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
KaronList of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
I meant that Tuyz and Pancada are the best smokers in Brasil...
novato1 [#12]I meant that Tuyz and Pancada are the best smokers in Brasil...
oh in brasil? for sure, I thought they were talking about top 5 overall
GambleNats [#11]utility wise, sure caua is better but I mean forsaken was putting up ridiculous numbers on inti
cauanzin also did that when his team was playing like shit this year + did it against fnatic twice in champs. none of their prx players know how to play sova properly and cauanzin also knows how to play every initiator well except for gekko, that just gives him an edge over most initiators
ok maybe cauanzin is not top 5 BUT you can’t lie he’s close to that
GambleNats [#9]list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
KaronList of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
smoggy, woot, mako, kingg, valyn and mindfreak are NOT better controllers than pancada LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
nxck [#15]smoggy, woot, mako, kingg, valyn and mindfreak are NOT better controllers than pancada LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
nah respect smoggy tho, he picked up smokes this year and already knows how to use his util well etc also has the same amount of trophies as pancada
GambleNats [#9]list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
KaronList of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
kekw list. Tenz top 3 controllers lmao. Agent pool doesn't matter to your list, right?
nxck [#15]smoggy, woot, mako, kingg, valyn and mindfreak are NOT better controllers than pancada LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pancada 2024? S0m clears.
nxck [#15]smoggy, woot, mako, kingg, valyn and mindfreak are NOT better controllers than pancada LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
theres no way you believe that. pancada has had 1 single tournament where he looked like the best controller and either just good to mid in the rest of his career.
ValAnalist [#17]kekw list. Tenz top 3 controllers lmao. Agent pool doesn't matter to your list, right?
brother he was frying in champs, and this is coming from a person who heavily argued that tenz wasnt allat
catNmouse [#14]cauanzin also did that when his team was playing like shit this year + did it against fnatic twice in champs. none of their prx players know how to play sova properly and cauanzin also knows how to play every initiator well except for gekko, that just gives him an edge over most initiators
ok maybe cauanzin is not top 5 BUT you can’t lie he’s close to that
yeah he def comes close. a breakthrough tournament or two and I could even see him being in contention of the best
ValAnalist [#17]kekw list. Tenz top 3 controllers lmao. Agent pool doesn't matter to your list, right?
oh btw the list isnt in order, I just put people better than "x"
but even have said that tenz would be like 4th behind karon only
GambleNats [#20]brother he was frying in champs, and this is coming from a person who heavily argued that tenz wasnt allat
But not because his skills as controller. His good aim, make him a great player.
ValAnalist [#23]But not because his skills as controller. His good aim, make him a great player.
unless their utility is awful, I dont consider agent utility that much. otherwise a player like s1mon would be highly rated, tenz is a controller player at the end of the day and that role allows him to frag out. see him play duelist in 2023?
GambleNats [#19]theres no way you believe that. pancada has had 1 single tournament where he looked like the best controller and either just good to mid in the rest of his career.
he didn't look like it, he was the best player... he was completely wasted in the sentinels, his biggest mistake was leaving Loud, if he hadn't left, he would be in his best shape
catNmouse [#10]forsaken is NOT better than cauanzin 😭
i think he’s better than beyn and trent
? lol
GambleNats [#9]list of better controllers (no viper):
Chichoo
Smoggy
TenZ
Wo0t
Mako
KiNgg, Valyn, Boo
Mindfreak
KaronList of better intiators:
Forsaken
Trexx
Chronicle
Riens
Nobody
beyn
com
trent
sacy
nobody com (LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) trent beyn sacy arent better initiators than cauanzin
novato1 [#25]he didn't look like it, he was the best player... he was completely wasted in the sentinels, his biggest mistake was leaving Loud, if he hadn't left, he would be in his best shape
his master reyk looked good at best, his copenhagen was at a similar level, his champs was toptier, his previous year was mid and his 2024 state is extremely mid
ValAnalist [#23]But not because his skills as controller. His good aim, make him a great player.
and even in terms of aim, pANcada crushes Tenz
sergueiessenine [#27]nobody com (LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) trent beyn sacy arent better initiators than cauanzin
nobody has been an incredible igl, your just a com hater,
trent, beyn sacy and cauanzin are all people I argue are at a similar level and Idrm who you put above who
novato1 [#29]and even in terms of aim, pANcada crushes Tenz
pancada has put up numbers in a single event T-T
GambleNats [#28]his master reyk looked good at best, his copenhagen was at a similar level, his champs was toptier, his previous year was mid and his 2024 state is extremely mid
He came back as the best on the Loud team even though he had spent a long time without playing... it's obvious that he wouldn't return to his best form right away.
novato1 [#32]He came back as the best on the Loud team even though he had spent a long time without playing... it's obvious that he wouldn't return to his best form right away.
he has only showed that form in 1 event... in his entire career
GambleNats [#33]he has only showed that form in 1 event... in his entire career
Yay also only had one peak, and even so there are people who say he is the best of all time. Why is it that when it's with PANcada he is still underestimated?
cloudberry [#3]LOUD also made playoffs in Split 1 before losing to 100 Thieves, who won the whole Split and qualified as first seed
then in that case KC shouldnt be flamed for not making shanghai and champs cuz they lost to fnc and fut so W on them at least
novato1 [#34]Yay also only had one peak, and even so there are people who say he is the best of all time. Why is it that when it's with PANcada he is still underestimated?
nobody says yay is the best of all time, he turned into y0y sadly
catNmouse [#36]nobody says yay is the best of all time, he turned into y0y sadly
bro, but even so they've already compared his peak with Aspas who is the most consistent player of all...
cameran [#35]then in that case KC shouldnt be flamed for not making shanghai and champs cuz they lost to fnc and fut so W on them at least
nah losing to fut is an L
not5kin [#38]nah losing to fut is an L
nah fut were really good in stage 1 and they also made a decent placement in shanghai, lost to FNC as well who won the stage
then stage 2 also lost vs fnc
cameran [#35]then in that case KC shouldnt be flamed for not making shanghai and champs cuz they lost to fnc and fut so W on them at least
KC shouldn't be flamed for anything other than not being able to midround, because otherwise they performed exceptionally well this season and would've made Champions if Vitality didn't exist
kalayav_n [#4]LOUD as an ORG are dogshit, LOUD players apart from qck are top 5 nbest players in their roles; LOUD coach? very dogshit
and let it be clear that although qck isn't top 5, he's still good and he was not the one to blame when loud crumbled and came up with pancada
and yes, loud are lucky as HELL. their management is shit, their CEO is childish, their fanbase is horrendous (sometimes criminal). FURIA deserved to be successful way more than LOUD
Shidoh [#41]and let it be clear that although qck isn't top 5, he's still good and he was not the one to blame when loud crumbled and came up with pancada
and yes, loud are lucky as HELL. their management is shit, their CEO is childish, their fanbase is horrendous (sometimes criminal). FURIA deserved to be successful way more than LOUD
of course, its all on louds coaches, loud as an org fired fRoD(one of the best coaches itw) and decided to hire some brazilian coaches who dont give a fuck and see the job as a "casual 9-5"
kalayav_n [#4]LOUD as an ORG are dogshit, LOUD players apart from qck are top 5 nbest players in their roles; LOUD coach? very dogshit
honestly yeah, I agree
GambleNats [#24]unless their utility is awful, I dont consider agent utility that much. otherwise a player like s1mon would be highly rated, tenz is a controller player at the end of the day and that role allows him to frag out. see him play duelist in 2023?
Your comment is idiotic, you cannot make a list of best controllers based on aim..
loloscum [#44]Your comment is idiotic, you cannot make a list of best controllers based on aim..
if you are performing on your role, that should be included, your kills have an incredible impact.
is your list having s1mon as the best intiator in the world?
im really intrigued, is boaster a top controller? surely he is right because utility > performance
so boaster > mako, karon, tenz, pancada, smoggy, etc
?
novato1 [#34]Yay also only had one peak, and even so there are people who say he is the best of all time. Why is it that when it's with PANcada he is still underestimated?
yay had an incredible year, he was good for 3 events, which is slightly better than pancada but still pretty bad. I can find you 5 yay haters for every yay glazer
Discord