What did I say?
I want to stay humble, but I need to talk. NA is an extremely overrated region. How can a region with so much investment, infrastructure, and the possibility of training with franchised teams still lose to teams that train against premier teams?
M80 since the beginning of Ascencion has won several matches in OT, and people prefer to close their eyes to reality and say that they are a dominant team...
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Scytrope [#2]zero investment or infrastructure in tier 2 keep day dreaming.
from the stand-point that M80 gets the chance to prac with T1 teams all weeks and SA and BR orgs don't should be a huge advantage.
I mean, you're literally playing against the top players of the league each week.
Scytrope [#2]zero investment or infrastructure in tier 2 keep day dreaming.
Invested thousands of money, played scrims with t1 teams just to get destroyed 😂😂😂
Scytrope [#2]zero investment or infrastructure in tier 2 keep day dreaming.
congrats on first post! kinda retarded tho idk what ur trying to say
Vyantic [#5]from the stand-point that M80 gets the chance to prac with T1 teams all weeks and SA and BR orgs don't should be a huge advantage.
I mean, you're literally playing against the top players of the league each week.
m80 is just terrible, all im saying is that they don't represent the region as a whole and this post is silly
Scytrope [#9]m80 is just terrible, all im saying is that they don't represent the region as a whole and this post is silly
I don't know bro, M80 won the league but they looked pretty shaky even being 5-0.
The fact that TSM made it puts a lot of doubts in how effective other orgs could've been.
PooFaceCe [#10]This will be hilarious to come back on after M80 wins
M80 is going 0-2 in playoffs pussy
PooFaceCe [#15]Ur flair lost to Trace
Trace squashed the best americas team pipe down bozo.
Vit derke next year gonna win every trophy and make your balding canadian bitchass cry.
Poo face
Congo1 [#17]Trace squashed the best americas team pipe down bozo.
Vit derke next year gonna win every trophy and make your balding canadian bitchass cry.
Poo face
delusionmaxxing
PooFaceCe [#20]delusionmaxxing
Wipe the poo off your face the you will see clearer.
Vit domination is coming
Anguibok [#19]Bro... BR team finish bottom 3, M80 is in 6-1, and they are not ut yet, don't try to jinx your region, you may have a chance to finally have good player to get ascended, don't shit on the team that can cock block you just for one loosed BO
6-2, Argentina gonna wins M80.
And was bottom 2, third place was EG, and u guys gonna not cock block us, how will u guys do that out of the tournoment? Kekekekekek.
Prasinos [#22]6-2, Argentina gonna wins M80.
And was bottom 2, third place was EG, and u guys gonna not cock block us, how will u guys do that out of the tournoment? Kekekekekek.
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2024/Americas_League/Stage_2
vlr is mistaken, it's Head to Head rule, I remember because I hate that rule and I was mad at it.
You know I'm supporting BR on this tournament right ?
Anguibok [#23]https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2024/Americas_League/Stage_2
vlr is mistaken, it's Head to Head rule, I remember because I hate that rule and I was mad at it.
You know I'm supporting BR on this tournament right ?
The argument doesnt change, M80 gonna not cock block us if they are out of tournoment.
Prasinos [#24]The argument doesnt change, M80 gonna not cock block us if they are out of tournoment.
I hope so, but I don't believe it
Anguibok [#27]I hope so, but I don't believe it
So if you are a true BR suporter, lets pray for Argentina downfall, M80 can cock block Argentina.
Prasinos [#28]So if you are a true BR suporter, lets pray for Argentina downfall, M80 can cock block Argentina.
Wait, you want NA beat Argentina ?
My mood is I want NA loose, so I want BR win, and if AK can make NA out it's also good
ortuh [#13]zander saw tenz retire and decided he didn’t want to get promoted with m80 as he has the sen spot secured, may as well promote some brazilians he can farm next year
Zander giga brain
Anguibok [#29]Wait, you want NA beat Argentina ?
My mood is I want NA loose, so I want BR win, and if AK can make NA out it's also good
Its a cultural stuff lol.
But would be good to Ak wins, too riot pay more attention to SA T2.
sideshowsbaldhead [#32]have brazilians always been this annoying? and if so i’m assuming they just got quiet this year bc all their teams were shit? idk the overreaction to this one singular game by a bunch of BR flags is confusing to me
Its kinda like NA region, the diference is that we stop sometimes, NA in other hand, cant pass a single second withour saying shit.
Prasinos [#34]Its kinda like NA region, the diference is that we stop sometimes, NA in other hand, cant pass a single second withour saying shit.
fair enough, feel like that’s just a population thing more americans online = more braindead american baiters
sideshowsbaldhead [#32]have brazilians always been this annoying? and if so i’m assuming they just got quiet this year bc all their teams were shit? idk the overreaction to this one singular game by a bunch of BR flags is confusing to me
You guys overhyped the M80 and now we can't talk? Accept defeat. So far only one team has been eliminated from the championship and it was an American team.
sideshowsbaldhead [#35]fair enough, feel like that’s just a population thing more americans online = more braindead american baiters
Justify the baiters, but doesnt justify wtf a NA user trashtalks teams of VCT China in the other side of the wolrd 💀.
Either way, our both regions suck 🤜🤛.
ValAnalist [#36]You guys overhyped the M80 and now we can't talk? Accept defeat. So far only one team has been eliminated from the championship and it was an American team.
It’s fine to talk shit but at least be correct with it, reta was the first team eliminated
Prasinos [#33]Its a cultural stuff lol.
But would be good to Ak wins, too riot pay more attention to SA T2.
I trust in expansion of BR, i'm so hyped with GC team I consider casting T2BR when GC plays
Vyantic [#5]from the stand-point that M80 gets the chance to prac with T1 teams all weeks and SA and BR orgs don't should be a huge advantage.
I mean, you're literally playing against the top players of the league each week.
MIBR and FURIA also prac with tier 1 teams but they both look like they play with their monitors off. it doesn't matter who you practice against or how many games you practice what matters is what you learn from those games
Harapan845 [#57]what you were blind to 2g winning haven
it's like bitcoin, everything between the cycle lows and the cycle highs is just fudge.
the 2 things that are constant in life, is cycle highs in bitcoin, and NA supremacy
Arosu [#42]MIBR and FURIA also prac with tier 1 teams but they both look like they play with their monitors off. it doesn't matter who you practice against or how many games you practice what matters is what you learn from those games
First, Furia and MiBR doesnt have the same amount of training with a T1 team than a team of a gringo region, like M80.
Seconds, MiBR/Furia is bad, bc they are "player and friends", they do not put good players, they put washed friends.
ValAnalist [#62]WELL WELL WELL
oh i didnt care much lol i just said that cuz the prx dude said it first
cameran [#64]oh i didnt care much lol i just said that cuz the prx dude said it first
lmao. Dont trust anyone in this site bro.
we have all of our good talent and top players already in franchising which is why we have so many solid teams
you have maybe 1-2 teams that are considered even solid, the rest of the talent has always been in t2 because franchised brazilian orgs let them rot
it makes sense why a brazilian team would win
revokeshoots [#67]we have all of our good talent and top players already in franchising which is why we have so many solid teams
you have maybe 1-2 teams that are considered even solid, the rest of the talent has always been in t2 because franchised brazilian orgs let them rot
it makes sense why a brazilian team would win
im not in the mood to discuss about that rn. i just want enjoy the victory and make fun of M80 believers.
But you are wrong about the brazilian scenario.
ValAnalist [#68]im not in the mood to discuss about that rn. i just want enjoy the victory and make fun of M80 believers.
But you are wrong about the brazilian scenario.
the only brazilian team that looked solid in franchising was furia funnily enough, and in general brazil has sucked this year because they didn't pick up any upcoming talent in the past or present. the upcoming talent that was flourishing in NA was picked up a while back. 2g deserved this win and was better, but I'm just saying that some of these brazilian players should've already been franchised while I can't say the same for a majority of these NA players. either way gg and hopefully this goes to show brazilian orgs that they need to stop recycling
revokeshoots [#70]the only brazilian team that looked solid in franchising was furia funnily enough, and in general brazil has sucked this year because they didn't pick up any upcoming talent in the past or present. the upcoming talent that was flourishing in NA was picked up a while back. 2g deserved this win and was better, but I'm just saying that some of these brazilian players should've already been franchised while I can't say the same for a majority of these NA players. either way gg and hopefully this goes to show brazilian orgs that they need to stop recycling
I agree that recycling is not the solution, but you have to understand that our best players are not on Brazilian teams. First of all, your country's currency is 5 times more expensive than ours. So just having a Brazilian ORG go to Los Angeles is already a heavy cost. Pancada (until half the year), Heat, Sacy and Aspas didn't play on a Brazilian team, because they know that the salaries on American teams are better (i know LEV isnt american). Next year it looks like Less will come out too...
How are we going to compete if we can't keep our good players? Investing in tier 2 players is a huge risk and Brazilian teams don't want to go through that, they prefer to get players with a certain amount of experience.
ValAnalist [#71]I agree that recycling is not the solution, but you have to understand that our best players are not on Brazilian teams. First of all, your country's currency is 5 times more expensive than ours. So just having a Brazilian ORG go to Los Angeles is already a heavy cost. Pancada (until half the year), Heat, Sacy and Aspas didn't play on a Brazilian team, because they know that the salaries on American teams are better (i know LEV isnt american). Next year it looks like Less will come out too...
How are we going to compete if we can't keep our good players? Investing in tier 2 players is a huge risk and Brazilian teams don't want to go through that, they prefer to get players with a certain amount of experience.
I'm not just talking about orgs, I'm more saying there have been slots for these players in the orgs that are in franchising and they haven't picked up these talents which to me is disappointing. I understand what you mean by org investment and the cost for brazilian organizations though, on top of higher salaries in non-brazilian orgs in franchising I just feel like some of these players who have been stuck in t2 should've been in mibr, furia, or potentially even loud (controversial) already. more so the first two. but your points are all true, just that at some point you have to see these players farming t2 for so long and decide it's not that big of a risk. I just feel like these players should have already been franchised and they deserved to be there already, but that is also the fault of how many slots NA vs Brazil got. you guys should have fluxo, 9z etc in there.
Arosu [#42]MIBR and FURIA also prac with tier 1 teams but they both look like they play with their monitors off. it doesn't matter who you practice against or how many games you practice what matters is what you learn from those games
you found the worst example to validate this.
MIBR and FURIA don't deserve to be in T1, even a great part of BR followers agree that those are two of the worst orgs there and there's some other amazing orgs like 2G which just ascended, TBK, NIP, Keyd Stars deserve way more those franchising spots and there might more that i'm missing.
PooFaceCe [#40]Come again lil bro?
13-5 mmap loss merchants got fortunate to get this far. GG dead region
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