All ascension teams are playing for a Top 4 or they relegate.
G2 can’t risk running it back with Icy at duelist, he was a big addition to there team this year, but Champs will be even harder to make next year because Top 2 In playoffs Qual and then the next 2 slots are determine off Points from the whole season.
So they have to basically be a Top 4 team the whole year.
No way they don’t atleast trial Another duelist. ( Mada etc ) icys cool but they aren’t winning anything with him.
Mortadelo [#2]Just throw the fucking bag at Jawgemo there's no way EG can retain him. Matter of fact he's FA if I remember correctly
they got the money for it
askrial [#6]idk about icy anymore. the bandwagon part of me is saying "fuck icy, shiny new cool duelist". the hopeful part of me is saying "its his first year in t1 he just needs time to adjust".
Give him a vendetta arc and he'll be back.
cloudberry [#4]"G2 can’t risk running it back with Icy at duelist"
Uhm... why not? It's clearly working for them. If you ignore the two games they played abysmally in Champions playoffs, they were a top 2 team in Americas this year
team obv has inconsistency and map issues, you can’t depend on winning as a team every map/series you play.
Most series they play are 2-1s, the team could use a upgrade at duelist lmao.
Shawn23 [#8]team obv has inconsistency and map issues, you can’t depend on winning as a team every map/series you play.
Most series they play are 2-1s, the team could use a upgrade at duelist lmao.
i think the sunset perma ban hurts them more than anything tbh
if you look at their comps on most maps, they love running double controller and KJ (haven, abyss, lotus, icebox, hell they even tried it on ascent in the beginning of kickoff) and what map can you not play double controller and KJ? sunset
Shawn23 [#8]team obv has inconsistency and map issues, you can’t depend on winning as a team every map/series you play.
Most series they play are 2-1s, the team could use a upgrade at duelist lmao.
I'm by no means an expert, but aren't inconsistency and map issues both direct consequences of not enough scrim time? If you practice a map more, not only does it get better, but you also become more consistent at it with each rep
chrlxz [#11]shiny new toy syndrome
what other duelist could they get that plays gekko and yoru too
jawgemo probably
capital_d_colon [#12]I don't think they need to change anything in order to win a title honestly.
Both Icy and Trent, in my eyes, could have a lot more impact on rounds and games that they haven't shown this year.
A meta shift or just time could unlock this potential.
My main issue with G2 is that while I trust Trent, as he showed us in 2022 that he was a DEMON when he got activated, Icy only had that for one game, and it was against a battered down, broken SEN in a regular season match. I'd rather take a Jawgemo who we know has proven himself on the highest stage against the best of opponents than a duelist who absolutely showed up against teams who weren't in their best form, and hasn't really flipped the game as a star much throughout the year other than those 1 or 2 games.
cloudberry [#13]I'm by no means an expert, but aren't inconsistency and map issues both direct consequences of not enough scrim time? If you practice a map more, not only does it get better, but you also become more consistent at it with each rep
they had months to practice , they were 0-3 in Bo3s they didn’t even come close to winning 1…..
Like i said the team is depending on team play then having an individual that can pop off and it’ll only be read easier next year.
if you don’t think they need a upgrade in a possible demotion year you’re wilding
catNmouse [#14]jawgemo probably
nah i love jaw hes one of my favs but he will be playing neon raze jett only
capital_d_colon [#12]I don't think they need to change anything in order to win a title honestly.
Both Icy and Trent, in my eyes, could have a lot more impact on rounds and games that they haven't shown this year.
A meta shift or just time could unlock this potential.
Yeah theoretically I expected Trent to be BY FAR the best player on G2 this year, maybe except from leaf, but he has really been ghosting some important games and just kinda waddles along in games they win and on the games they lose people just blame icy lol
chrlxz [#17]nah i love jaw hes one of my favs but he will be playing neon raze jett only
he’s proven that he can play anything, hell he was even playing sage on icebox, gekko wouldn’t be a hard agent for him to learn. if he can play harbor astra and omen while playing raze last year he can definitely learn gekko
chrlxz [#17]nah i love jaw hes one of my favs but he will be playing neon raze jett only
jawg is literally one of the most flexible player and played anything potter asks him to
but since he's going to nrg idk who'll g2 get
Diebs [#20]jawg is literally one of the most flexible player and played anything potter asks him to
but since he's going to nrg idk who'll g2 get
i think they run it back with icy tbh
chrlxz [#21]i think they run it back with icy tbh
run it back with icy i promise you they aren’t qualing for champs
Shawn23 [#22]run it back with icy i promise you they aren’t qualing for champs
they had icy and for a short time looked like the best americas team? icy literally dropped an alltimer on sen too
chrlxz [#23]they had icy and for a short time looked like the best americas team? icy literally dropped an alltimer on sen too
that's the problem he dropped an all timer on sen so everyone thought he's actually good and shit the bed when it mattered
too inconsistent
Diebs [#24]that's the problem he dropped an all timer on sen so everyone thought he's actually good and shit the bed when it mattered
too inconsistent
trent was much worse than icy in big games
Farambe [#18]Yeah theoretically I expected Trent to be BY FAR the best player on G2 this year, maybe except from leaf, but he has really been ghosting some important games and just kinda waddles along in games they win and on the games they lose people just blame icy lol
they need to change their pace tbh, no excuse for trent shitting the bed but it’s clear he’s much more aggressive than he is passive
Shawn23 [#16]they had months to practice , they were 0-3 in Bo3s they didn’t even come close to winning 1…..
Like i said the team is depending on team play then having an individual that can pop off and it’ll only be read easier next year.
if you don’t think they need a upgrade in a possible demotion year you’re wilding
Fair enough, I guess
cloudberry [#4]"G2 can’t risk running it back with Icy at duelist"
Uhm... why not? It's clearly working for them. If you ignore the two games they played abysmally in Champions playoffs, they were a top 2 team in Americas this year
u dont know ball
chrlxz [#25]trent was much worse than icy in big games
you’re not wrong, they just have inconsistency issues, trent’s been that way for the last 2 years , even when guard made a lan in 2022 lmao
Shawn23 [#30]you’re not wrong, they just have inconsistency issues, trent’s been that way for the last 2 years , even when guard made a lan in 2022 lmao
yeah so why the fuck is everyone saying kick icy and not kick trent
cloudberry [#13]I'm by no means an expert, but aren't inconsistency and map issues both direct consequences of not enough scrim time? If you practice a map more, not only does it get better, but you also become more consistent at it with each rep
they can get better but that doesnt matter, they must be better than others who are also working to improve, icy is just not good enough doesnt matter how flawless u play or how much u practice, u simply need a better player in the most impactful role, tactics and coordination arent everything, u also need individually gifted players that can allow u to have even more solutions tactically and win rounds on their own
askrial [#6]idk about icy anymore. the bandwagon part of me is saying "fuck icy, shiny new cool duelist". the hopeful part of me is saying "its his first year in t1 he just needs time to adjust".
no time to adjust, he is just not gifted enough
chrlxz [#31]yeah so why the fuck is everyone saying kick icy and not kick trent
you aren’t wrong again, but its harder to replace a recon then it is a duelist
capital_d_colon [#12]I don't think they need to change anything in order to win a title honestly.
Both Icy and Trent, in my eyes, could have a lot more impact on rounds and games that they haven't shown this year.
A meta shift or just time could unlock this potential.
i miss offline trent. Bro was built different
idkbro [#34]trent doesnt convince me either but idk who could replace them, I feel like there isnt a very deep pool of talent in na t2
not for recons, but I think verno would be a good replacement and maybe brawk but that’s it
there’s a few options for duelist
https://x.com/TrickAIM/status/1826635088383377667?t=N7dRwVztFgGFEer8a0hTsw&s=19
Read and read it again
Dybala21 [#42]https://x.com/TrickAIM/status/1826635088383377667?t=N7dRwVztFgGFEer8a0hTsw&s=19
Read and read it again
I saw this, no one is saying icy is bad lmao....... but the team could use a upgrade in the department... There are BETTER options mechanically plenty.
the only problem would be chemistry.
number1_Demon1_fan [#44]Jawgemo is performing because he gets to play how he want (have fun and fun down everyone) so the team have to follow him
G2’s system is more built around the team and not icy
I don’t think jawgemo isn’t that good of a fit
In terms of firepower ? 100%
Synergy and system wise ? 0%
-1 downfrag for stating the obvious 😂 i would upvote it but i think im shadow banned from that or something
i think they can change their system to adapt to jawgemo if in the occasion they do get him
cloudberry [#4]"G2 can’t risk running it back with Icy at duelist"
Uhm... why not? It's clearly working for them. If you ignore the two games they played abysmally in Champions playoffs, they were a top 2 team in Americas this year
ur right cloudberry.
its way riskier to trial a new player out and potentially damage the team atmosphere when all g2 has to do is be better than the ascension team (if we are talking abt not getting relegated)
sure they can raise their ceiling, but in this case you dont need to raise your ceiling, just maintain the floor
kyro1 [#28]no the change is -leaf +yay keep icy on raze and get him to flex to senti or flash for when yay plays jett
are u just gonna slowly keep posting until people forget what u said
Mortadelo [#2]Just throw the fucking bag at Jawgemo there's no way EG can retain him. Matter of fact he's FA if I remember correctly
That would be insane
G2 jawgemo goes hard
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