Currently theory crafting on Lotus

I'm curious... are duelists really a necessity on this map? What do we think?

to get past the choke points/senti util? yea. especially on c and b.

dawg this might be the most duelist required map out there

Ya
We saw what happened to fpx. It is insanely hard to enter c site. And forget about entering A site you can't even go towards A rubble with the amount of pressure from the enemy team at the start of the round from the fade, omen and raze.

leave it to the cn fan to ask this dumbass question 😹 ask fpx how it went when they had their chamber entrying every round (hint: sentinels owned them)

i know a certain chinese team that might give you a decent answer

PersistentPeanut [#5]

leave it to the cn fan to ask this dumbass question 😹 ask fpx how it went when they had their chamber entrying every round (hint: sentinels owned them)

I'm a LOUD fan but ok

Watch Sen vs FPX on lotus & you’ll get your answer

PersistentPeanut [#5]

leave it to the cn fan to ask this dumbass question 😹 ask fpx how it went when they had their chamber entrying every round (hint: sentinels owned them)

french flag complaining about other nations.

ironic when the most exciting part of your country are its departure terminals

Ahem

Not really. For example you have M80's triple sentinel comp.

DSGFan [#11]

Not really. For example you have M80's triple sentinel comp.

He gets me

zhongZHI [#9]

french flag complaining about other nations.

ironic when the most exciting part of your country are its departure terminals

Changed flag after 💀

not necessarily duelist but movement ability to take space seems like a necessity for sure.

Maybe u could get away with an omen for entries but its a lot more difficult and I don't really see an upside to running no duelist rn until a non duelist with a better movement ability is added

DogeForPres [#14]

not necessarily duelist but movement ability to take space seems like a necessity for sure.

Maybe u could get away with an omen for entries but its a lot more difficult and I don't really see an upside to running no duelist rn until a non duelist with a better movement ability is added

So what you're saying is if you have movement or space taking abilities on other agents, you don't need to run a duelist?

Good luck going against an Odin without duelist. Lotus and Ascent are hard mode without a "gap closer"

cloudberry [#15]

So what you're saying is if you have movement or space taking abilities on other agents, you don't need to run a duelist?

in my opinion yeah, especially in pro play where the KJ Viper comp is meta and its so easy to seal people off sites if they can't take space with movement abilities

Yoru is by far the most underrated duelist on Lotus, people are just more comfortable with raze and neon tho

Tbf M80 have a no duelist comp that sweept na t2 so maybe it depends on how you play it

Its getting removed in about 15 days so i wouldnt bother figuring it out

Nachtel [#18]

Yoru is by far the most underrated duelist on Lotus, people are just more comfortable with raze and neon tho

But how? Flashes in lotus really aren’t needed and raze and neon both have space taking util raze satchels, nade and boombot, neon stun, slide and wall all allow for actual space taking instead of flashes which will be dodged at this high level of competition. Yoru gives you quite literally nothing that you need on lotus.

The only way yoru could work is if you use breach but even then neon and raze both work better off breach util because they’re harder to hit when they go to capitalize on stunned/flashed enemies.

https://www.vlr.gg/378665/sentinels-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2024-elim-b

Popppings [#20]

Its getting removed in about 15 days so i wouldnt bother figuring it out

Oh yeah it is :(

Lowkey 4 ini and 1 smoke would fry this map

Wellthisisbad [#21]

But how? Flashes in lotus really aren’t needed and raze and neon both have space taking util raze satchels, nade and boombot, neon stun, slide and wall all allow for actual space taking instead of flashes which will be dodged at this high level of competition. Yoru gives you quite literally nothing that you need on lotus.

The only way yoru could work is if you use breach but even then neon and raze both work better off breach util because they’re harder to hit when they go to capitalize on stunned/flashed enemies.

Yorus tps are equally as good as neon slide to create space on a and c. b is definitely neon's territory though.

You're treating him too much like an initiator; he's a movement duelist like the others, and teams like G2/Gen.G/Fnatic/NRG/KC/Heretics have realized that fact and utilize him as such

The issue is that nobody knows how to play yoru, and a large segment of players that do don't know how to play him as a duelist, the exceptions being marteen, icy, meteor, rb, OXY, and ethan

EDIT: Derke and Miniboo too

Galactc [#13]

Changed flag after 💀

it got worse 💀