Looks pretty good, hope a 11-3 comeback doesnt happen on it
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Looks pretty good, hope a 11-3 comeback doesnt happen on it
The format is what destroyed them last year
Single elim playoffs is trash, playing the whole split only to possibly have 1 match if you dont finish first in your group :(
OG FPX fan from the masters winning days, but i still like the chinese roster, really good potential
Its not going terribly, be ready for a lot of arguments
Ye, but he played the previous year on C9 as a full time duelist and carried so there was no reason to really switch that
For me it was bc they kicked Net who wasnt bad for an unproved rookie, who played okay, but i think they would have had similar success with Net on the roster
And everyone knew they wanted Jawg last year and only got Icy as a stop gap
They are okay but they arw better suited for the vandal and phantom options
yea probably whichever pops first out of forsaken or prime
yea but i bought like 4 skins so its nice to hear other peoples opinion who probably bought and used way more than me
Should i buy ruiniation Guardian?
Im thinking of waiting for Prime, but this is a close second for me, what do you guys think?
I mean thats the point to try and caluculate over the entire year the smallest gaps for players in order to have them in higher position, nobody said its gonna be 100% agrreable with
C0m and Nodoby are not even close to be considered top 20 of the year, since its not just success of the team that helps every single player to get in these kinds of rankings
Its true Aspas had 2 bad maps against EDG and Heretics, but those are only 2 maps i can remember where he hasnt turned up, otherwise he was unplayable, you can say the same for a lot of other players, so i wouldnt really value that argument in that way
These kind of lists are about consistency and highs, so since Aspas had boths basically for all of the season i think he deserves his spot even with a lack of an international trophy
Last year i put Less 2nd and nobody disagreed against that even though he didnt win an international trophy
I mean you probably know much more about Chinese Season than me, but with seeing that they bombed out of Madrid and Shanghai and with the Chinese region not having that many good teams i would say that anything other than Champs doesnt really move the needle for me when it comes to EDG
KangKang always gets the stats and was in top 5 in terms of statistics for the ENTIRE Champs so i would say he deserves his spot, while Chichoo stepped up where it was needed so they would be able to overcome some tough matches, but other than that there isnt anything else i would seriously but into the conversation
For me it was Alfa since he took a massive step and started playing insane and was the MVP of Tokio if im not wrong, Leo was very close though
He was more consistent compared to 2023, but i think players above him just showed something more for the team when it was on them to bail the team out of a difficult situation
I would say Tex wasnt that far from TenZ this year in terms of play, its just that SEN had an incledible first half of the season which gave him a lift
Yes he didnt win a trophy, but over the course of the year he showed unreal consistency and produced insane ratings
Champs is the most important tournament, but its the ranking for the year and over the course of the entire season, Aspas produced more insane performances and was unplayable basically the entire season with their only bad loss being against C9 + we cant talk like that in terms of H2H duels since they only played once and you can say that a different player who had a one off series is someones ,,kryptonite"
Tarik is more of a chill streamers and he isnt that entertaining for watchparties on his own, but with guests it can be very nice to watch
FNS is my personal favorite since ha has that knowledge of the game and can be funny af with his reactions
Struggling is a big word considering he was +4 and +7 against the worst teams of the season basically so he didnt need to do much and his worst rating was 1.08 in stage 1 which is still very solid
He didnt have the highs he reached last year, but it was unreal to see that this year considering the situation in FNC, and yet they managed to with both Stages of EMEA which is still a solid achievement considering its not terrible in terms of competition
And at the end of the day its only 2 players beetwen Alfa and Zekken which is okay, its not like i put Zekken 15th
Smoggy was important do doubt, but i dont believe he could have stepped up the way chichoo did in those situations which netted him a spot on the list in the first since he was somewhat average for the whole season, so i was very suprised to see that performance from him
Alfa did not have the international success expected from FNC, but they were still very good at EMEA and that still counts, he played at a level high enough that you can consider him in that position, since consistency is rare in VAL and playing at a top 10 level more or less for the entire season despite the problems is FNC is for me bigger achievement than the players under him have achieved either having only 1 stellar tournament or playing good, but not insane
He was definetly in consideration to honorable mentions, but with him missing Shanghai, and having clear downs in performance and with TH already having 3 players in Top 20 i thought it would be better to mentions players on other teams and players who had better performances more consistently
They have been better individually, but overall both KC and TS had a average season, compared to G2 where JonahP was very consistent against the best of the best
I actually had a similar take
I just think that it would be more difficult since they are now not gonna be underrated
https://www.vlr.gg/398208/edg-cinderella-run
Im not saying KRU was shit, but they were underwhelming and if it wasnt for combining both stages results they wouldnt have been in playoffs, and werent good enough overall this season to be considered in the upper echelon of teams for 2024
Comps of course are the teams problem, but since VAL isnt a single player game, everything matters, LEV also had team issues, but Aspas was mostly unplayable, while Zekken had some signs of burnout, which also counts
As i already said Alfa was really solid considering the fact that his team was falling apart, and while Zekken had higher highs than Alfa this season he did experience some lows - still Zekken at 7th is amazing considering the lack of results last season was the reason for me excluding him from the list in 2023
With Benjy, the team showed unreal consistency, which he was a major part of, so that cannot be excluded, and apart from Madrid and Stage 2 (3rd) reached every single grand final available to them
Zekken was also the one who was set up for success and with his play it would have been weird if he couldnt have capitalized off that, while Alfa isnt the one who should get all of the kills
They have one more season and they have to qualify for Champs or get to playoffs of stage 2 for Ascension, otherwise they are out
I would suggest maybe watching some CS tournaments, since i started watching them last offseason and its pretty enjoyable while there aint any VAL
He did experience a slight regression, but i think considering the problems FNC had gone through this season, he played good enough to still be this high up the list
He was much better, considering he finally had a consistent role, which helped him abnormally
Excited to see what can they do next year to level up
I think its reasonable considering cNeds ups and downs, and he definetly had the highest highs on the team, so they could be scary next year
Yes KRU was overall solid this season, but SEN should beat them 9/10 times, especially since KRU was lackluster in Stage 2
LOUD wasnt bad, but they were on the decline and i think that that game against G2 wasnt that tryhard from G2 considering they were going into playoffs and only needed a certain amount of rounds, so they probably saved some strats
And the whole problem for SEN since Madrid was the choking, against EG and against EDG, which is a game they should have won after getting 6 defense rounds on Lotus
Even with the terrible comps, they didnt play them to troll, they thought they were good and got read and humiliated, and had to hope that LEV would win in order to go to Champs, where they did show better play
Keznit is very good but, he has the same problem Zekken had in the past - his team is not good enough to follow him
Chichoo is not top 10, since he only had 1 solid tournament, the rest was average
Last year nobody thought i made a good list so its very funny that theres actually some people that agree with the list this year
Yes they did, but its very different playing in China vs Americas, where Aspas was the best ranked for both Stage 1 and 2
I would say the main reason for having Aspas above KangKang is the difference in competitiveness at their regions
Aspas was basically flawless in Americas after Kickoff, and its unfortunate that LEV had a problem with choking in some crucial situations, so i hope that wont be the case in 2025
The problem is Alfa only played 2 games at Kickoff, where he was only underwhelming against KC as did the whole of FNC, other than that he has been pretty consistent
For Zekken it was mainly SENs slump in middle part of the season where they lost to EG and LOUD who werent that good, and only beat the teams they should have beaten in STAGE 2, while losing to G2 and 100T pretty badly, but still 7th is a very good position for him
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