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DFM fix

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#1
Hobbit
  • Remove EVERYONE but keep Meiy
  • +Sayaplayer
  • +Yotaa
  • +Yoshiii
  • +JoXJo
  • +Lucas Rojo (HC)
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idk what to feel about this

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keep meiy but get sayaplayer & yotaa make it make sense

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laifu
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-yotaa +seoldam and you got yourself a goated team

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Hobbit
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keep meiy but get sayaplayer & yotaa make it make sense

Why wouldn't they rerole? A lot of teams get duelists mains just to make them rerole, it's succesful

Lucas Rojo is a really intelligent fellow and leader, they wouldn't struggle in the process. And also, Yotaa and meiy have played other roles in the past

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laifu [#4]

-yotaa +seoldam and you got yourself a goated team

I choose Yotaa over seoldam cus I'm aware that Yotaa is a lot more fluent in english

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Lucas Rojo too busy winning the valorant equivelant of the champion's league with Barca

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they gotta put me in coach i can save them

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arin2016
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Bro handpicked all the garbage players (except for JoXjo and Lucas) you hate Meiy or something?

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Bro wants to turn meiy to shit by forcing him to comm in english

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Hobbit [#5]

Why wouldn't they rerole? A lot of teams get duelists mains just to make them rerole, it's succesful

Lucas Rojo is a really intelligent fellow and leader, they wouldn't struggle in the process. And also, Yotaa and meiy have played other roles in the past

get a team of aspas t3xture jinggg zekken oxy guys its ok just make them rerole !!!!

the last time meiy didn't play duelist was 2 years ago

the last time sayaplayer offroled was when T1 was in NA and he was garbage

just get a normal ass good initiator over sayaplayer lmfao even bazzi is a better choice

you only remember good reroles and never bad ones. anyone remember yay on viper and skye lol

some duelist players are smart enough to learn new roles. saya is not one of them. and you'd be insane to put meiy off duelist.

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get a team of aspas t3xture jinggg zekken oxy guys its ok just make them rerole !!!!

the last time meiy didn't play duelist was 2 years ago

the last time sayaplayer offroled was when T1 was in NA and he was garbage

just get a normal ass good initiator over sayaplayer lmfao even bazzi is a better choice

you only remember good reroles and never bad ones. anyone remember yay on viper and skye lol

some duelist players are smart enough to learn new roles. saya is not one of them. and you'd be insane to put meiy off duelist.

Funnily enough, a team of Aspas t3xture jinggg zekken and oxy could work role wise

Is almost like, salaried professionals could flex a little bit

Difference with Yay is that Yay never flexed, but most of these players did

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arin2016 [#9]

Bro handpicked all the garbage players (except for JoXjo and Lucas) you hate Meiy or something?

Yoshiii is the goat wdym

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  • And they’ll all comm in mandarin
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doesn't meiy only speak Japanese

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Harapan845 [#15]

doesn't meiy only speak Japanese

When korean pros played on some japanese rosters, the pros who were fluent in both japanese and korean translated in real time what other teammates were comming to the korean player

I'd imagine that something similar would happen here, since Yotaa, Saya, and Yoshiii are fluent in both english and japanese

Duelists players don't comm that much in pro play anyways, most of the time there's a silent player that doesn't comm much but still performs really good (Leo, Trexx, Demon1, etc)

And I'd imagine he knows the basic callouts in english, it'd be weird for a VCT pro player to not know any english at all

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Hobbit [#16]

When korean pros played on some japanese rosters, the pros who were fluent in both japanese and korean translated in real time what other teammates were comming to the korean player

I'd imagine that something similar would happen here, since Yotaa, Saya, and Yoshiii are fluent in both english and japanese

Duelists players don't comm that much in pro play anyways, most of the time there's a silent player that doesn't comm much but still performs really good (Leo, Trexx, Demon1, etc)

And I'd imagine he knows the basic callouts in english, it'd be weird for a VCT pro player to not know any english at all

yeah but the translating in real time would slow down their coms

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Harapan845 [#17]

yeah but the translating in real time would slow down their coms

Of course, it's not ideal, but it's either force meiy to speak english or he will never win a trophy with a japanese roster

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Hobbit [#18]

Of course, it's not ideal, but it's either force meiy to speak english or he will never win a trophy with a japanese roster

Yoshii and Yotaa's Japanese is not native level, Something speaks better japanese than them probably lol. I'm not sure about Saya but It is probably easier for Koreans to learn Japanese.

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eva_3 [#19]

Yoshii and Yotaa's Japanese is not native level, Something speaks better japanese than them probably lol. I'm not sure about Saya but It is probably easier for Koreans to learn Japanese.

Nah I think yoshii and yotaa still have a better japanese than something 🤣, sayaplayer can learn Japanese tho. ( I sure hope not)

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Realistic answer is Akame Joxjo Lob Gon +Meiy.
They can communicate in Japanese.

You seem to think just because they played in Japanese league year or two they can communicate in Japanese.
But atm only Korean players can communicate in Japanese , because they probably study it during high school and language similarity.

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Hobbit [#12]

Funnily enough, a team of Aspas t3xture jinggg zekken and oxy could work role wise

Is almost like, salaried professionals could flex a little bit

Difference with Yay is that Yay never flexed, but most of these players did

go to oxy and aspas's vlr pages and click all time.

go to t3xture's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is kj

go to jinggg's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is sage and maaaaybe clove

zekken is the only person on that team who can actually flex.

yay flexed more than oxy and aspas have in their entire careers. lmfao.

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go to oxy and aspas's vlr pages and click all time.

go to t3xture's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is kj

go to jinggg's page and notice the only non duelist he plays well is sage and maaaaybe clove

zekken is the only person on that team who can actually flex.

yay flexed more than oxy and aspas have in their entire careers. lmfao.

So you're saying that talented and salaried players are incapable of flexing?

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Hobbit [#23]

So you're saying that talented and salaried players are incapable of flexing?

guess yay was neither talented nor salaried.

you're argentinian, so let me put it this way: messi is the goat and salaried. that means he should have no problem playing as a defender right? =)

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guess yay was neither talented nor salaried.

you're argentinian, so let me put it this way: messi is the goat and salaried. that means he should have no problem playing as a defender right? =)

cook

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guess yay was neither talented nor salaried.

you're argentinian, so let me put it this way: messi is the goat and salaried. that means he should have no problem playing as a defender right? =)

This is not football. All characters move at the same speed, all the characters have the same health, all the characters use the same weapons. This is not a class shooter, this is not Overwatch, mechanics are mostly the same for all characters

Roles on this game are not as defined as football. Roles are based in playstyle, all of the players you just said would be capable of flexing if that was the case. If you want to get a japanese roster where all the players are specialized in a single role, you will not have it, because there are no japanese players who are specialized in single a role that will dominate tier 1

Look at Liquid, they have 5 players with locked roles and they haven't innovated in comps all year, because only one of their players can flex. A roster of Aspas, T3xture, Jinggg, Zekken, and OXY isn't IDEAL role wise, but don't pretend like these players would be completely dogshit if they played other role. The only reason why they don't flex is because they are way too good on their role to flex

The players I proposed for DFM are capable of flexing, don't pretend like they're not. You can criticize the barrier languages, you can criticize the my picks and why you would replace X player with X player, but roles wouldn't be the reason this roster loses

Roles on Valorant are not as one-dimensional as you make it seem

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where the SyouTa knowers at

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boomer123
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relegate

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Mataynn [#27]

where the SyouTa knowers at

Me but I don't want him to leave fennel 💀.
Syouta can play smokes , that's his primary role when he played in cgz and when clz is still a duelist ( yes he did even long before syouta joined) in fennel

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Hobbit [#26]

This is not football. All characters move at the same speed, all the characters have the same health, all the characters use the same weapons. This is not a class shooter, this is not Overwatch, mechanics are mostly the same for all characters

Roles on this game are not as defined as football. Roles are based in playstyle, all of the players you just said would be capable of flexing if that was the case. If you want to get a japanese roster where all the players are specialized in a single role, you will not have it, because there are no japanese players who are specialized in single a role that will dominate tier 1

Look at Liquid, they have 5 players with locked roles and they haven't innovated in comps all year, because only one of their players can flex. A roster of Aspas, T3xture, Jinggg, Zekken, and OXY isn't IDEAL role wise, but don't pretend like these players would be completely dogshit if they played other role. The only reason why they don't flex is because they are way too good on their role to flex

The players I proposed for DFM are capable of flexing, don't pretend like they're not. You can criticize the barrier languages, you can criticize the my picks and why you would replace X player with X player, but roles wouldn't be the reason this roster loses

Roles on Valorant are not as one-dimensional as you make it seem

Sayaplayer is literally incapable of flexing. i literally told you this in my first reply lol.

you're not taking meiy off duelist.

so you're forced to run either double duelist or duelist/chamber comps every map. because saya was terrible when he wasn't playing duelist.

this is assuming yotaa is down to play initiator or smokes. his second best role is senti btw.

yoshii also only plays senti or duelist btw. the last time he played initiator was 2 years ago btw.

This is not football. All characters move at the same speed, all the characters have the same health, all the characters use the same weapons. This is not a class shooter, this is not Overwatch, mechanics are mostly the same for all characters

Roles on this game are not as defined as football. Roles are based in playstyle, all of the players you just said would be capable of flexing if that was the case. If you want to get a japanese roster where all the players are specialized in a single role, you will not have it, because there are no japanese players who are specialized in single a role that will dominate tier 1

bro thinks this is cs instead of valorant im dead.
initiator players, sentinel players, and smokes players all play differently from duelist players lmao.

you do know that for example smokes players should usually try to stay alive and/or lurk comparatively more than initiator players or sentinel players because generally smokes are useful for a retake/hold and can be placed down from across the map?

you know that initiator players generally don't look to lurk on the map because they need to provide utility for their team during a hit?

obviously these roles/playstyles aren't locked but there are basic things you naturally do depending on what role you play. a duelist player can dry contact an area, but if a sentinel does the same thing it's a lot riskier because you'd be moving ahead of your util and if you die, your setup dies with you. and teams usually rely on passive sentinel info to cover holes in their defaults i.e. if kj dies pushing ascent b main as def then turret/alarmbot goes down and you have a gaping hole in mid and on b main.

you have no idea whether these players are capable of flexing at all.

and wtf is this?

Look at Liquid, they have 5 players with locked roles and they haven't innovated in comps all year, because only one of their players can flex.

No one said anything about having players who can't flex being good. "You want players who can flex - so why are you suggesting players who can't?" is literally my entire point. what???

you clearly haven't even tried to play on a competitive team or participate in a competitive setting. so this is where i leave you. it's not worth talking to someone with your rationale.

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Sayaplayer is literally incapable of flexing. i literally told you this in my first reply lol.

you're not taking meiy off duelist.

so you're forced to run either double duelist or duelist/chamber comps every map. because saya was terrible when he wasn't playing duelist.

this is assuming yotaa is down to play initiator or smokes. his second best role is senti btw.

yoshii also only plays senti or duelist btw. the last time he played initiator was 2 years ago btw.

This is not football. All characters move at the same speed, all the characters have the same health, all the characters use the same weapons. This is not a class shooter, this is not Overwatch, mechanics are mostly the same for all characters

Roles on this game are not as defined as football. Roles are based in playstyle, all of the players you just said would be capable of flexing if that was the case. If you want to get a japanese roster where all the players are specialized in a single role, you will not have it, because there are no japanese players who are specialized in single a role that will dominate tier 1

bro thinks this is cs instead of valorant im dead.
initiator players, sentinel players, and smokes players all play differently from duelist players lmao.

you do know that for example smokes players should usually try to stay alive and/or lurk comparatively more than initiator players or sentinel players because generally smokes are useful for a retake/hold and can be placed down from across the map?

you know that initiator players generally don't look to lurk on the map because they need to provide utility for their team during a hit?

obviously these roles/playstyles aren't locked but there are basic things you naturally do depending on what role you play. a duelist player can dry contact an area, but if a sentinel does the same thing it's a lot riskier because you'd be moving ahead of your util and if you die, your setup dies with you. and teams usually rely on passive sentinel info to cover holes in their defaults i.e. if kj dies pushing ascent b main as def then turret/alarmbot goes down and you have a gaping hole in mid and on b main.

you have no idea whether these players are capable of flexing at all.

and wtf is this?

Look at Liquid, they have 5 players with locked roles and they haven't innovated in comps all year, because only one of their players can flex.

No one said anything about having players who can't flex being good. "You want players who can flex - so why are you suggesting players who can't?" is literally my entire point. what???

you clearly haven't even tried to play on a competitive team or participate in a competitive setting. so this is where i leave you. it's not worth talking to someone with your rationale.

ain't reading allat

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Could you think about why Joxjo became a free agent in the middle of the season?
That's because they judged that it would be impossible to communicate in English, including with Meiy. At the very least, this team has an aversion to English to the extent that they would include Medusa, who speaks Japanese at the level of a native Japanese person, in the roster.

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