americas players tier list

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baroque

discussion on another post about s-tier players for each team in americas made me think of a tier list for all players

tiers are unordered, players are judged INDIVIDUALLY and not based on team success. note most of this is eye test RIGHT NOW, hence why certain players are ranked so highly despite no official matches and why some players (demon1) are ranked so low

feel free to ask why, i will explain my reasoning for specific players

S - world class, one of the best in their role/overall ability
narrate
cauanzin
zekken
aspas
boostio
verno
jawgemo
valyn

A - one of the best players in region at their role, passes the eye test
s0m
ethan
leaf
fns
mwzera
eeiu
kinggg
tex
oxy
supamen
keznit
mazino
johnqt
pancada
cortezia
heat
natank
jonahp
bang

B - good players of championship winning caliber, but are not their team's star player(s)
icy
gobera
c0m
havoc
mada
melser
zellsis
shyy
khalil
derrek
cryo
dgzin
tuyz
artzin
nzr
demon1
zander
asuna
v1c
pryze
raafa
zap

C - decent role players, just mid
adverso
nature
vinny
trent
lz
xenom
xeppaa
mitch
silentzz
net

D - why is this person getting paid, shanks is better
mta

unironically think americas has a lot of good talent this year

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cauanzin in S = good list

Also i highly disagree with trent being C, he has very high peaks and is so much better than what he has showed in 2024.

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catNmouse

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cryo id argue is a star player, he has bigger impact in the team ingame than any other player

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baroque

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this is based on current form, that's why trent is ranked so low. same thing with cryo, i don't think he has had enough experience on smokes roles (for example, his omen doesn't look great) and jett is not a good enough agent anymore to just take over games. definitely had flashes of greatness, the game against loud was a crazy performance, for examples, but i don't think he's as good of a jett/semi flex as others. i can see putting him in A though, definitely a high B here

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jawn

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boostio in S is interesting

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baroque

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i personally think eg's 2023 success was due to him in a big way/knowing how to use demon1. the vibe change around 100t has been actually crazy and they have looked really good at times. i think people rate him too low compared to other igls like saadhak/fns, and he has shown that he has the mechanical skill to take over maps

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jawn

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i don't disagree but high A tier feels better, s0m is also S

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Azzelastia

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Boostio is one of the best IGLs in the world.

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jawn

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he is

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pulsloopd

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trent mid?

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baroque

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trent looked quite poor after kickoff, especially on his signature sova. definitely was the guard's best player but on g2 he never really had a shining moment

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0/8

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baroque

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why are you hating i literally glazed 2023 eg

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Azzelastia

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South na players are too high. C0M and Demon1 should be S tier.

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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valid

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H3ENnZ

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Might be unpopular but neT does not deserve C

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baroque

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are you thinking moving up or moving down? imo net has proven to be a decent defense side caller but he never had the impact fragging either on the guard or m80 to actually be a threat on the weak side. definitely a good system player but has never shown those flashes of brilliance you see from top players

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H3ENnZ

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neT is better than C imo but def bottom B

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unknown_trash

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JonahP in B is a crime. He is an absolute monster on his role.

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baroque

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I actually thought most people would want him lower. I think jonahp is a really good ini flex but outclassed by the likes of mazino, ethan, verno, natank

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catNmouse

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he doesn’t flex just initiator though, his viper is very good also (coincidentally the agent where he takes over games the most) i think he should be in A tier maybe not high if that’s what you prefer. He’s the reason G2 made top 3 in shanghai

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baroque

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yeah... that's why i said flex as in initiator/viper flex. that's why i compared him to players who play similar roles (mazino flexes a lot, ethan's has a good omen, verno cypher, etc). I had him as a high B but you've swayed me to put him low A

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alienista1

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Kingg and Valyn deserve Tier S. They were 2 of the top 4 IGLs in the world.

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baroque

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i actually thought i put valyn in S oops ill fix that

kingg has always been a fragger but i'm not sold on his igling. i know it's a big part (see 2024 nrg) but i never thought leviatan were THAT tactically deep. that one sunset map they got rolled on against fut is really biasing me

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alienista1

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Kingg's IGL skills aren't the best, but he more than makes up for it with his fragging.

For example, you place Kingg on the same level as Tex, but Kingg had a much better year individually, even as an IGL. So it makes no sense for both of them to be Tier A.

Anyway, I think Kingg deserves tier S much more than players like Boostio.

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femboyenjoyer

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cryo b tier is certainly a choice
i think cauanzin(hella underrated), boostio, and jawg deserve high a

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baroque

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for me cauanzin has always been a ridiculously good player for how young he is and the ceiling it looks like he will have. consistently good even on a struggling loud and he has shown signs of becoming the next less or aspas for them imo. i was definitely skeptical of jawg as a solo duelist but seeing what he can do on 2024 eg (like the game against sen) i think he is honestly one of the best entries itw rn.

cryo is def high B, could be low A now that i'm thinking abt it but i put him there because i don't think that he has enough experience as a jett/controller flex and he also didn't look that good playing in shanghai against other top teams (th, geng, prx) even on his "best agent" jett

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femboyenjoyer

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cauanzin potential is definitely s
but i think cryo is like low a-high a somewhere in that range in stage 2 like most of the maps 100t won had cryo dropping 25 except for mibr they are just frauds in 2024 he genuinely dropped at least 25 everytime he played jett

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Ultia

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Trent being at C is weird given I’d have him over the majority of B players except Cryo and Demon1. He hasn’t been consistent recent but his fragging peaks should have him at least high B or low A. You mentioned that it’s based on current form but Cauanzin is S — maybe try to be more consistent?

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baroque

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i can definitely see trent in B, upon review i do think his individual season was better than i thought it was. however, i still think cauan had an excellent season on such a poor team and often carried most of their games. winning maps for your team is what makes an S tier player, his INDIVIDUAL form was excellent. trent was just very inconsistent and had some stinker maps, although he was better than i thought he was.

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Average_NA_fan

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what a dogshit list

asspiss is B he's a baiter
demon1 diffed him

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baroque

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baiter detected opinion rejected

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saebr

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good list. if someone put a gun to my head and told me i had to make a change then i'd put demon1/c0m in a